Twitter is the best for redpilling on the holohoax, keep mentioning the masturbation machines, rollercoasters of death and how there is no evidence of the 6 million bodies because of the bone crushing machines yet they wrote documents that made this act of crushing bones non redundant.
100% they will then reply saying cremation leaves no evidence of bodies... that's when you jump on them and call them a denying nazi and link to the bone crushing machine. Only in the most retarded of people does this not click something and they'll look into it more. Been doing it all week.
The story is the Nazi's went to the insane lengths of building bone crushing machines grind all remains into an atomized particles that could never be found again (how convenient). When you add this into the masturbation machines, rollercoasters and no evidence of mass graves people flat out deny it, saying no cremation destroyed all the remains. This makes them a holocaust denier as they are denying the bone crushing machines.
Using this you jump on them like the denying nazi scumbag they are! Why do you deny the bone crushing machines? Why do you deny the masturbation machines? The argument gets so ridiculous only the most retarded will maintain their position... most normal people realizing they haven't got a clue and bone crushing machines, masturbation machines and no evidence of bodies does seem odd.
The red pill has then firmly been planted. It's only an angle I've found that works, maybe it sounds retarded because it has to be to get at these people? Who knows.
@Crensch, how would you suggest redpilling someone who's almost 80?
My stepfather is German American. Born and raised in the US and can trace his family back 6 generations in Germany. He actually believes that more than 6 million jews were killed. He served in the army. Part of their training was that they were taken to Dachau and according to him, "shown bone and hair remains." Says he saw the gas chambers and that it "was deathly quiet after they showed us where the Jews were burned." Totally carries around much guilt over "what the Germans did to the Jews". Whenever I try to redpill him on the JQ, he says, "you have to see Auschwitz and Dachau for yourself." I admittedly haven't and the discussion pretty much ends.
He's a full on conservative, patriot and runs a successful business. Sadly, he's also a TV cuck who spends most of his nights watching programming: History channel, Fox news, etc.
Is it a waste of time even trying to talk to him about it because he's been so programmed for the last 60 years?
@Crensch, how would you suggest redpilling someone who's almost 80?
Tough nut to crack. I could take a swing at it, though.
My stepfather is German American. Born and raised in the US and can trace his family back 6 generations in Germany. He actually believes that more than 6 million jews were killed.
Does he provide a source for this belief? Is it the Nuremberg Trials? News articles? Official documents?
He served in the army. Part of their training was that they were taken to Dachau and according to him, "shown bone and hair remains."
Pure pathos and nothing more. It's this turned up to 11. He got nothing but remains that are on display for what reason? Any documents saying who they were, when they were there, how they died? Anything we can look at that proves they likely died from X or Y?
How does he know they weren't chicken bones and some fresh cut hair from Sally's Hair Boutique down the road?
Says he saw the gas chambers and that it "was deathly quiet after they showed us where the Jews were burned."
More pure emotion.
Ask him about the gas chambers. What stood out? How was the lighting? Did they say it was Zyklon-B that was used? Does he know Zyklon-B is another term for cyanide? Does he know why the poison is called cyanide? What color were the walls? What did the door look like? Any other feature on the walls?
If the cremation ovens were so efficient why waste the effort digging a hole for a mere 2,400?
Totally carries around much guilt over "what the Germans did to the Jews". Whenever I try to redpill him on the JQ, he says, "you have to see Auschwitz and Dachau for yourself." I admittedly haven't and the discussion pretty much ends.
"How about you argue in facts instead of emotions and hearsay?"
That's all he's doing. "You had to be there" - - No, all you have to do is poke holes in every claim they made.
He's a full on conservative, patriot and runs a successful business. Sadly, he's also a TV cuck who spends most of his nights watching programming: History channel, Fox news, etc.
I've stopped giving old farts a pass for being cucked. Their lack of integrity, curiosity, intellect, or drive to do the right thing just makes my vision red-shift.
Is it a waste of time even trying to talk to him about it because he's been so programmed for the last 60 years?
That is entirely up to you.
Honestly, though, I would do exactly this:
Talk to him and have him talk about the Nuremberg Trials, if he even knows about them. Maybe hint early on that "anyone that knows anything about it knows about the Nuremberg Trials." So he maybe takes a minute to look them up, or at least asks you what they are.
Explain what Jewgle tells you they are to him, then ask him if he believes having a trial for the Germans was a good thing, and if he thinks that's a good foundation upon which to believe the Holocaust.
If he agrees with all of that, ask him [why, if the Holocaust happened, were the widely-publicized Nuremberg Trials a complete sham]? Wouldn't there have been plenty of real evidence to have a fair trial and have these guys executed for their crimes? Why were the Germans tortured for their testimony, if the evidence was so overwhelming? Why were the Allies not tried for the same crimes outlined in the Nuremberg Principles the Germans were tried for? (all in that link)
And that image is wrong: The 4 million from Auschwitz came from the Nuremberg Trials. Meaning HALF OF THEIR ORIGINAL COUNT is wrong BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION.
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Pick and choose from the above. If anything will ever be enough, it'll be those.
Oh, the 'alternative' just above was used here. The autist married a Jew and got redpilled right here. It'll take some doing with putting together the conversation from the archives, but you'll get the picture soon enough.
That's the start of it. Notice the image in OP: 600,000 Jews. The guy's first response was "It wasn't 600,000. It was 6 million" or something like that.
Does he provide a source for this belief? Is it the Nuremberg Trials? News articles? Official documents?
He doesn't. This is all based on what he saw when he first enlisted in the army at 17. He was sent to the Berlin Wall when it first went up (early 1960's, I believe.)
Pure pathos and nothing more.
I see it. I see how you lay out your argument based on reasoning and a line of questioning that calls for facts.
Oh, the 'alternative' just above was used here.
That was brilliant and very well done.
I'll try your approach with him. I haven't read in dept about the Nuremburg trials myself save for cursory examples. Making a note to read further up on it. Thanks again.
Oh, the Nuremberg Trial link quotes Congressional Records; an anti-Nazi, Jewish writer; actual testimony from the trials; a chief US prosecutor; A judge in the planning conference before the trials; the chief US Justice overseeing the Nuremberg Trials; and the Nuremberg Principles.
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DayOfThePillow ago
Twitter is the best for redpilling on the holohoax, keep mentioning the masturbation machines, rollercoasters of death and how there is no evidence of the 6 million bodies because of the bone crushing machines yet they wrote documents that made this act of crushing bones non redundant.
100% they will then reply saying cremation leaves no evidence of bodies... that's when you jump on them and call them a denying nazi and link to the bone crushing machine. Only in the most retarded of people does this not click something and they'll look into it more. Been doing it all week.
Crensch ago
I don't follow what you're saying here.
DayOfThePillow ago
Which part?
Crensch ago
Pretty much everything about the bone crushing machines
DayOfThePillow ago
The story is the Nazi's went to the insane lengths of building bone crushing machines grind all remains into an atomized particles that could never be found again (how convenient). When you add this into the masturbation machines, rollercoasters and no evidence of mass graves people flat out deny it, saying no cremation destroyed all the remains. This makes them a holocaust denier as they are denying the bone crushing machines.
Using this you jump on them like the denying nazi scumbag they are! Why do you deny the bone crushing machines? Why do you deny the masturbation machines? The argument gets so ridiculous only the most retarded will maintain their position... most normal people realizing they haven't got a clue and bone crushing machines, masturbation machines and no evidence of bodies does seem odd.
The red pill has then firmly been planted. It's only an angle I've found that works, maybe it sounds retarded because it has to be to get at these people? Who knows.
Crensch ago
https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3140875/17916032
https://imgoat.com/uploads/3ec517d68b/80629.png
http://archive.is/2lmI0#selection-299.6-299.15
mitoriomyt ago
@Crensch, how would you suggest redpilling someone who's almost 80?
My stepfather is German American. Born and raised in the US and can trace his family back 6 generations in Germany. He actually believes that more than 6 million jews were killed. He served in the army. Part of their training was that they were taken to Dachau and according to him, "shown bone and hair remains." Says he saw the gas chambers and that it "was deathly quiet after they showed us where the Jews were burned." Totally carries around much guilt over "what the Germans did to the Jews". Whenever I try to redpill him on the JQ, he says, "you have to see Auschwitz and Dachau for yourself." I admittedly haven't and the discussion pretty much ends.
He's a full on conservative, patriot and runs a successful business. Sadly, he's also a TV cuck who spends most of his nights watching programming: History channel, Fox news, etc.
Is it a waste of time even trying to talk to him about it because he's been so programmed for the last 60 years?
Crensch ago
Tough nut to crack. I could take a swing at it, though.
Does he provide a source for this belief? Is it the Nuremberg Trials? News articles? Official documents?
Pure pathos and nothing more. It's this turned up to 11. He got nothing but remains that are on display for what reason? Any documents saying who they were, when they were there, how they died? Anything we can look at that proves they likely died from X or Y?
How does he know they weren't chicken bones and some fresh cut hair from Sally's Hair Boutique down the road?
More pure emotion.
Ask him about the gas chambers. What stood out? How was the lighting? Did they say it was Zyklon-B that was used? Does he know Zyklon-B is another term for cyanide? Does he know why the poison is called cyanide? What color were the walls? What did the door look like? Any other feature on the walls?
What did the ovens look like? How many were there? Did the tour guides say how many Jews were ovened? What happens when (((they))) only claim a MASSIVE 2,400 were buried because the cremation effort was too slow?
If the cremation ovens were so efficient why waste the effort digging a hole for a mere 2,400?
"How about you argue in facts instead of emotions and hearsay?"
That's all he's doing. "You had to be there" - - No, all you have to do is poke holes in every claim they made.
I've stopped giving old farts a pass for being cucked. Their lack of integrity, curiosity, intellect, or drive to do the right thing just makes my vision red-shift.
That is entirely up to you.
Honestly, though, I would do exactly this:
Talk to him and have him talk about the Nuremberg Trials, if he even knows about them. Maybe hint early on that "anyone that knows anything about it knows about the Nuremberg Trials." So he maybe takes a minute to look them up, or at least asks you what they are.
Explain what Jewgle tells you they are to him, then ask him if he believes having a trial for the Germans was a good thing, and if he thinks that's a good foundation upon which to believe the Holocaust.
If he agrees with all of that, ask him [why, if the Holocaust happened, were the widely-publicized Nuremberg Trials a complete sham]? Wouldn't there have been plenty of real evidence to have a fair trial and have these guys executed for their crimes? Why were the Germans tortured for their testimony, if the evidence was so overwhelming? Why were the Allies not tried for the same crimes outlined in the Nuremberg Principles the Germans were tried for? (all in that link)
Alternatively:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/3ec517d68b/80629.png
And that image is wrong: The 4 million from Auschwitz came from the Nuremberg Trials. Meaning HALF OF THEIR ORIGINAL COUNT is wrong BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION.
--
Pick and choose from the above. If anything will ever be enough, it'll be those.
Oh, the 'alternative' just above was used here. The autist married a Jew and got redpilled right here. It'll take some doing with putting together the conversation from the archives, but you'll get the picture soon enough.
https://www.voat.co/v/whatever/2319800/11520377?=19
That's the start of it. Notice the image in OP: 600,000 Jews. The guy's first response was "It wasn't 600,000. It was 6 million" or something like that.
mitoriomyt ago
wow. Thank you. for the response. 🙏🏽
He doesn't. This is all based on what he saw when he first enlisted in the army at 17. He was sent to the Berlin Wall when it first went up (early 1960's, I believe.)
I see it. I see how you lay out your argument based on reasoning and a line of questioning that calls for facts.
That was brilliant and very well done.
I'll try your approach with him. I haven't read in dept about the Nuremburg trials myself save for cursory examples. Making a note to read further up on it. Thanks again.
Crensch ago
You're welcome; happy to oblige.
Crensch ago
Oh, the Nuremberg Trial link quotes Congressional Records; an anti-Nazi, Jewish writer; actual testimony from the trials; a chief US prosecutor; A judge in the planning conference before the trials; the chief US Justice overseeing the Nuremberg Trials; and the Nuremberg Principles.
Crensch ago
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