ArcturianDeathTrap ago

Yall shoulda figured out that religion is regional, false, and era-based when you were kids.

LDIP ago

Christ cucks. Believe in a story with walking on water and other "magic" that NEVER happened. Might as well believe in fairy tales. Oh and your host of child fuckers are neck and neck with kikes

70times7 ago

ITT- quoting the bible is quoting ellen white doctrines.

Doubling down on your lies eh.

Meh, not gonna have you heap more coals on your own head, as you continue painting Gods written word not only as a lies, but as you paint God himself as bully tyrant who burns 12 year old children for billions of years in fire.

Shame on you.

You argue with yourself about how evil God is. Ive heard about enough of your demonic filth.

70times7 ago

1st, im not a 7th day adevntist.

2nd, i did not quote this ellen white woman not even once.

3rd, scripture rebukes you

jesus_is_lord ago

Joh_3:18  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

https://voat.co/v/Satanism/3109169

Ironheart ago

I cringe at the sight of anger being drummed up by using Jesus and eternal fire as bait. Id adkin it to a muslim threatening, " Hey, convert to Islam or we cut your head off", which they do.

The most important thing in life is a relationship with God. Those who spout otherwise do so because they cling desperately to a false sense of security provided by this society, which offers freedom from accountability and guilt.

That aside, Ecclesiastes 9:5 says "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten." It says nothing of eternal punishment. The reward of Salvation is a continued existence with God.

The cliche argument of "If there is a God, why do bad things happen?", should be obvious. We suffer so we can persevere. We fall, so we can get back up. There is evil so we can pick good. We should THANK God for this, because otherwise there would be no point to life.

T101genisys ago

Well said Brother.

Duchozz ago

No, you'll burn in hell for being a literal polytheist you retard

OricaTonithos ago

This bizarro world next-level buffoonery is what happens to a christian country that falls away. It's a suicide of national magnitude.

It was once free. It now calls out to slavers of all sorts.

SayTan ago

Good thing I'm agnostic ya fookin christcuckistani. Christianity is a slave religion.

Humansized ago

All abrahamics are retarded. Go back to the desert with the rest of your ilk.

maxoverdrive ago

Amen brother! And Deus Vult! Death to Muslims and Jews everywhere!

Smust77 ago

Don’t forget sponge bob square pants too

scoopadoop ago

Jesus was not only a jew, he was the last jew there ever was. The whole point of him coming here was to inform the jews that they had fallen out of gods favor, that they needed to change in order to remain his chosen people. But they refused to give up their power structure. For the last 2000 years, Christians have been gods chosen. This is why jews hate us so much. Mohammad the prophet was either a lunatic claiming to have the blessing of god to rule the world, or he really was visited by the angel Gabrielle and given gods instructions. If it is the second option, he betrayed god the first time he killed someone and fell out of favor. Now there is a whole entire other religion that follows a doctrine that does not resemble AT ALL the instructions he was given. Both jews a moslems reject God and the son of God and the teachings he gave us in order to secure temporary power here on this shitty plane of existence. Follow Christ, it is your only chance to escape this place.

path ago

I have to disagree—the Israelites are still God’s chosen. This story is not over yet. For as long as humans existed, satan has targeted the Jews in order to corrupt them, because they are His chosen. They were chosen to bring forth God’s word and law, and eventually the messiah Jesus Christ. In the end days, God will use them again, this time to spread the gospel far and wide.

Helbrecht ago

the Israelites are still God’s chosen

Go ahead and back that up with scripture.

path ago

Rev 7 (vrs 5-8 specifically names each tribe): Rev 7:3-4 “Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.”

Further, vrs 9 starts talking an innumerable number of of people in white robes. Later, John, the author asks who those in the white robes are, and he is told they have washed their robes white in the blood of the lamb, and during the time of tribulation.

These white robed people are NOT the Isreali servants, as their number is clearly 144,000. So the robes individuals are NEW Christians, likely brought to Hod through the 144000 servants that finally turn towards God and Jesus in the last days.

Glory to God!

scoopadoop ago

your idea has merit as well

SolomonPapermaster ago

The concept of a chosen people is as harmful as a parent telling on of their children he or she is the chosen one, the favorite.

What does that make the rest of humanity?

Luis_Sphincta ago

There's no real harm to it, just ask my kids: Brucie & Not-Bruce.

scoopadoop ago

Off the path. Struggling towards the light, or maybe away from it. God loves us all. Even the lost.

SolomonPapermaster ago

Not all Christians would agree though. Some seem to even enjoy the concept of heathens suffering for all eternity. I like your position better.

scoopadoop ago

I would say that those who like the idea of unbelievers being made to suffer are missing an important part of Christ's teachings. Do not revel in another's suffering, extend a helping hand.

Kleemin ago

christ cucks are hilarious. You are taking your fairy tales too far faggot.

WestWindFall ago

I love the my imaginary friend can beat up or is better then your imaginary friend debates.

Wazhappenin1 ago

Oh Jesus, the Jews that lurk here are not religion and don't give a fuck about God. Their gods look like Theodore Hertzl.

YoHomie ago

Not a Jew, but you're right about me not giving a fuck about some deity that you think is real.

Wazhappenin1 ago

Only a fool denies what can't be disproved.

YoHomie ago

That's pretty close to the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You can't disprove that I don't fuck your daughter, fool.

Wazhappenin1 ago

Wow! Now why don't you tell us how you really feel. I can disprove all those examples but I can see that this subject really gets your blood pressure going, I thinks it's best to leave a friends and just agree to disagree. No big deal brother sorry if I implied you were a fool. I should have put it another way, the more we learn the less we know. Something more neutral. The big picture is Whatt we agree on. My point was the jews that are trying to subvert white culture are more than likely atheistic on outlook that's all. The zionists were mostly not believers. So they don't care what God thinks. Others worship a god purely created from their talmudic teachings. Have a great day.

70times7 ago

Didnt Jesus tell us to fear Him who could destroy both body AND soul in hell? Matthew 10:28

Are not the wages of sin death? Not life? Romans 6:23

Is not hell itself cast into the lake of fire? Revelation 20:14

Doesnt Jesus say He is making all things new? Revelation 21:5

Is not satan himself going to be reduced to ash (not a living soul) upon the planet in front of the righteous? Ezekiel 28:18

People will be "eternally" separated from God yes. But how can that be?

Because they no longer even exist.

path ago

DO YOU ALL SEE?

We twist and writhe, and pitch and thrash, the different ideologies pound one against the other! You who are too “smart” to believe!

YET the great deceiver’s greatest deception is to convince you he doesn’t exist!

And look ye upon his evil works: this comment section has exploded with anti-Christ doctrine! Hahahaha

Preach OP. And do not relent. For even as these foolish intellectuals harangue you, you spit in the devil’s eyes!

I’m with you brother! Praise God!

SolomonPapermaster ago

Replace the word God with Flying Spaghetti Monster and great deciever with Swimming Spaghetti Monster. That's how you sound to non Christians.

path ago

you Aren’t perfect, nor can you be. God gave that which he loved the most as a sacrifice for every sinner that ever lived, even the sinners like you who didn’t believe, so you might find a way out.

Do you feel trapped in this corrupt, evil world? There’s a reason. Do you think it’s unfair that a creator would allow such evil? Why don’t you blame your own weakness?

BlockMe ago

LOL

After a few months in SE Asia I've decided to go full Buddhist.

Did you know the Dalai Lama sits on a chair decorated with swastikas and no Jew dare whine? That alone has to be worth it.

FecalDemiurge6000 ago

Aren't you smug. What's Jesus' dick taste like?

BlockMe ago

Kosher, I'm guessing.

FecalDemiurge6000 ago

Buddhist.

BlockMe ago

Nope.

FecalDemiurge6000 ago

Yup.

wt1984yb ago

Jesus was a pussy faggot. Go to your faggy heaven, I’ll go to Valhalla.

gentronseven ago

Jesus is a dirty Jew who accomplished nothing but the subversion of your race.

If you have to believe in fairy tales, at least believe in your own people's.

starjello ago

Jesus was killed by the Jews for trying to reform Judaism. He was trying to make Judaism less materialistic, oppressive and ethnocentric.

gentronseven ago

No, he was a weaponized Jew against the Roman empire.

If you have to believe in fairy tales, believe in Thor, Odin, Tiw etc instead. At least they are your own people's and not some filthy Jew.

starjello ago

Who said I was Nordic? My ancestors have been believing Christian s for generations and I consider myself culturally Protestant. The United States has a Protestant heritage and the West was historically Western Christendom. Christianity was pushed out of Asia and found a home in Europe. It has long been a familiar religion.

gentronseven ago

If you're ancestors are from Europe, Christianity is a foreign religion. Period.

It makes no difference if you're "Nordic", all Germanic people worshipped gods under those names. Celts, Italics Slavs and Greeks had similar gods under etymologically related names.

Greasy ago

Source?

admoae ago

oy vey, the god of the jews is going to punish his chosen people

with the enslavement of all goyim for the purpose of serving his chosen people

just like it says in your holy book we wrote for you

Titanbikes4ever ago

How do you guys still like Jesus when he was a Jew? It makes me not trust him.

One-Way_Bus ago

Can the Joos and Mudslims just fucking nuke each other already? I'm all for the US loaning to you Semites for your death thralls.

speedisavirus ago

Why bother with the jews. The curry niggers already want to nuke nearly a billion mudslimes

SolomonPapermaster ago

If you don't please God he will make you suffer for all eternity? That's quite a pathetic God if you ask me, kinda like a parent that beats a child to near death if he acts out.

YoHomie ago

I know, right? It's like god spreads a million Legos on the floor, if you step on one, fuck you, you're going straight to hell.

SolomonPapermaster ago

And for some reason he wants you to absolutely adore and worship him. I cannot presume to understand a God but to me it sounds like he probably has a very tiny dick.

wonderful_ ago

Nope gonna disagree with you here. Everyone should have their right to whatever religion they want. The problem begins the moment that religion starts imposing unreasonable rules on their members, causes physical harm, and kills other people. In that situation the law should be that a vote is cast only of people proven to be outside of that religious group. If they are found to be a problem then the religion is banned and any practice of it is immediate loss of citizenship and deportation.

Hand_of_Node ago

Yes, people have the right to choose burning in hell, but what exactly are you disagreeing with?

Zanbato ago

nop

sguevar ago

Though I do not like the approach you are taking, I do agree that if they reject the Son of God and hence the Father also, they shall face the consequences of God's judgement: The Wrath of God.

I rejoice that in Christ I am made new and wish others to come closer to Him. For he is the savior of all that accept Him in their hearts and confess it with their mouths.

Salvation is personal and yes, false doctrines will be broken by the judgement to come, and the false prophets shall meet their recompense in due time.

Praised be Jesus Christ and in His name we pray, Amen!

redpilldessert ago

I don't care who makes it to hell. If anyone goes there for eternity, I'm protesting in heaven for eternity too.

mrfetus ago

Though I do not like the approach you are taking

Stop being a cuck and fashion a whip from cords.

sguevar ago

As a Christian I am not to judge others because I am a sinner as well.

I am to spread the Truth, but salvation and condemnation are personal by the choices one takes, not by the judgement others spread to anyone else.

mrfetus ago

As a Christian I am not to judge others because I am a sinner as well.

I swear most of you have a completely different Bible than I do.

path ago

Well, other version have subtly manipulated the scripture to denounce Jesus’ deity, the same way Islam denounced Christianity. Literally false Bibles advertised as “new translations”. This is the work of the devil himself, to steal souls. Get yourself a KJV, and start reading

mrfetus ago

KJV is what I read.

If we are to be Christlike when should be very outspoken about the Jews being the spawn of Satan, I take issue with all the passivity.

path ago

Jews are not the spawn of Satan. The entire Bible is about the history of the Jewish people, and God’s relationship with them. He uses them to record His word and Law. He uses them to prophesy. He uses them to bring forth the Messiah, Jesus Christ, Emmanuel, God with us. He will use them to save souls in the end times.

But Satan has used their weak humanity to corrupt them. He has tempted them with the forbidden fruit, the knowledge of good and evil. When Satan took Jesus up to a mountain top and tempted him with all the world’s kingdoms and riches, that’s likely the same offer he gave other Jews. Except only one was perfect enough to resist him.

mrfetus ago

Jews are not the spawn of Satan.

I'm quoting Christ and this is exactly what I'm talking about. He said this to the Pharisees that all (97%+) modern Jews are descended from.

How is that not commonly known?

path ago

The synogog of Satan, to quote accurately. And he’s talking about the corruption in their hearts.

how do people not know this

mrfetus ago

to quote accurately.

Re-read JOHN 8:19-45 and come down off your high horse. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

path ago

Are we both Christians? Do not forfeit your righteousness arguing with other Christians. Judge not, friend. For none know the hour of His return, and whatever you’re actually arguing about....it doesn’t matter at all.

mrfetus ago

Do not forfeit your righteousness arguing with other Christians

Nice reversal, reeks of narcissistic personality disorder.

path ago

Calling what I see, but I don’t want to insult you, man. The devil wants this hostility. This bickering among believers? Doing his work for him.

Did Jesus die for us? Even the Jews? Even those that are the spawn of Satan, as you say? I don’t care about difining a people in any other terms other than Sinners that NEED Jesus Christ. Help me reach people, and save souls. That is what matters brother.

mrfetus ago

You around?

path ago

My bad! Hate to kee an eager spirit waiting. How are you brother?

So starting at (KJV)John 8:18– Jesus bring the term “father” into the conversation, specifically the Father. Yet, the Pharisees are eager to get him with blasphemy charges, and in vrs. 19, they ask Him who thy father is. But Jesus doesn’t even flinch, and drops bombs on them (in their own house! The treasury! Haha!): “If ye had known me, ye should have known my father also.”

The key part to the following verses is about dying in sin, but specifically in vrs. 24: “I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins:” (absolute statement—they will die to their sins) “for if ye believe not I am he, ye shall die in your sins.” (relative statement—allows for repentance, or is perhaps just an explanation of why they will die; lack of belief.)

In vrs. 31-32, Jesus says believing in and following His word will make us His disciples and that truth will set us free; however, the Pharisees in vrs. 33 claim they’ve never been in bonds, being the seed of Abraham.

Jesus says they are servants (or slaves, if “freedom” is the key idea) to sin, because they commit sin. Those that sin will die, but the Son lives forever (vrs. 35). Therefore, vrs. 36: “If the Son therefore shall set you free, ye shall be free indeed”—from sin. Relative statement, allowing for repentance, so long as they believe.

I honestly feel like the following verses are what you are referring to when you say that these Jews are the spawn of Satan, but I think Jesus is just dropping more bombs on them, trying to shame them. He knew they would seen to kill him, and he just calls them out for being servants to sin, and therefore the master of sin, Satan. The point I’m making is that the Pharisees think they and Jesus are talking their physical lineage, but Jesus is actually talking about the spiritual fatherhood. This is excellent turn-about by Jesus because Jesus is both born of God, and God’s servant. In contrast, the Pharisees are born physically of Abraham (who served God) but born spirituality of Satan through sinning.

Vrs. 44 introduced Lying, and that the devil is the father thereof. Vrs. 45-47: “And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore heat them not, because ye are not of God.”

Yes, he does say in vrs. 44 that they are of their father the devil, but he’s speaking spiritually, whereas they think claiming physical lineage is enough to claim righteousness. Jesus is essentially saying the Pharisees shouldn’t even be able to claim that lineage, because they are not walking with God the way Abraham did—they might as well have been seeds of the devil.

mrfetus ago

Thanks, and agreed.

Did Jesus die for us? Even the Jews?

Salvation is not for the rabbianical Jews. They worship the law, not god.

Even those that are the spawn of Satan, as you say?

As Christ says, I must say the same or I am not a Christian.

Edit: I reread John 8:19-45. Would you mind discussing it with me?

Let's, I think I'd enjoy that.

Helbrecht ago

This

mrfetus ago

👍

What's with the passivism from these guys?

huhu11 ago

Jesus is one of the prophets in Islam like Mary. They do not hate him at all. Only Jews hate Jesus. WTF are you on? Facts should always be based on facts even if you dislike someone or a religion. False infomartion is a jewish agenda.

sguevar ago

Jesus isn't just a prophet he is the messiah. Islam corrupted Christianity and actually is a false doctrine. The mudslims that do not accept Jesus as their savior will be condmned by their own sin of rejection. By themselves. Nothing more, nothing less.

The (((jews in the letter))) are not the chosen people of God, Jews in the Spirit are. Romans 2:28-29 - KJV.:

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh : But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Jesus stated that (((they))) won't be able to hide their sin any more: John 15:22-25 -KJV

If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin. He that hateth me hateth my Father also. I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

antiliberalsociety ago

Ignore any atheist shills, they know not that they are puppets of the kike.

sguevar ago

I sure do not pay attention to them XD God bless!

YoHomie ago

Go fuck yourself.

Timmy2 ago

The real, or the only. Your wording implies that there were more than one savior.

YoHomie ago

Well, there is George Carlin.

70times7 ago

The lake of fire will burn itself out.

How else would the earth be made new if not? (seeing as the lake of fire is on the surface of the earth)

Revelation 20:9 - And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

That is the lake of fire. That is the second death.

Eternal punishment. Not eternal punish"ing".

The bible does not say the wicked are tortured for billions of years in fire. On the contrary, it states that even death itself is destroyed in the lake of fire.

The wages of sin is (eternal) death.

Not life.

kirk_lazarus ago

Uh oh don't upset the shills with all your Jesus talk. We're all supposed to pretend that the same athiest individualism that let the jews win is the same thing that will save us from them

YoHomie ago

Uh oh, don't upset the Christfucks with all your shill talk. We're all supposed to pretend that the same Christian collectivism that started countless wars is the very dogma that will save us from them.

kirk_lazarus ago

Right because war didn't exist before christianity. You troll farm workers get paid too much for all these half-assed arguments you bring to the table

YoHomie ago

Right because atheism didn't exist before Christianity. You Christfuck acolyte fuckers get paid too much in promises for an eternal afterlife of slavery to your god to bring anything worth debating to the table.

kirk_lazarus ago

Talk to me when you have an original thought instead of this leftist "repeat what you said but the opposite" faggotry, you beta reject

YoHomie ago

Talk to me when you have something intelligent to say.

kirk_lazarus ago

Ok. Athiests should stop being pussies if they're going to reject religion they should also reject its moral structure and fight for their people as the laws of nature demand and stop being both physical and spiritual failures by pretending to be morally superior by not using violence

YoHomie ago

I'm not rejecting moral structure... few atheists do, but you're too ignorant to understand that moral guidelines don't need to come from some religious dogma. Additionally, your insipid comment about being a physical failure by pretending to be morally superior makes no sense whatsoever. Now if you want to talk about who actually pretends to be morally superior, we can certainly discuss THAT you perfect example of a hypocrite.

I thought I said to talk to me when you had something intelligent to say? Are you retarded or something? You certainly are showing your lack of intelligence and your inability for critical thinking. Of course, you'd never consider being WRONG.

kirk_lazarus ago

I didn't say reject all moral structure, learn to read. Most western athiests cling to christian morals and pretend to be pacifists when really they're just weak. This isn't my own idea, Nietzsche said this.

Here's what I meant by physical failure: if you're a white athiest you are a failure in the physical world. You have failed to heed the laws of nature, that the strong will thrive. Your people are being genocided and you are doing nothing to stop it. At least Christians hesitate to use violence because life is sacred. By the way, nothing in the bible prevents self defense. What reasons do athiests have for refusing violence? None. And before you tell me the world would be a pacifist utopia if there was no religion, I'll stop you right there because you're probably a brainwashed waste of oxygen.

YoHomie ago

Friedrich Nietzsche? The atheist? I'm not finding anything remotely resembling that and I don't remember reading that when I read Nietzsche (full disclosure, I only studied West European Philosophy for one year). Better check your source, pseudo-intellectual boy. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I certainly hope you're not pulling that one out of your ass because as an atheist, I'm not sure he'd have called himself weak, but he was odd that way, so maybe.

Your reasoning is about as solid as your beliefs. Because you've decided that because I'm white and I don't follow your beliefs, that you have determined that somehow I'm a "heretic" of the laws of nature. You think that atheists don't think life is just as sacred as Christians, you think atheists are pacifists... the more you write, the more it's obvious you know very little about atheism, actually. Your ignorance looks to stem from what you've been told by other Christians rather than from actual atheists. You may want to listen to someone outside your echo-chamber... or not, I don't Actually give a shit. For a hypocrite religious ignoramus like you to call me brainwashed is laughable, I appreciate the humor, I really do, however I'm still waiting for something compelling and intelligent from you.

... and waiting

... and waiting

Getting bored waiting, actaully.

kirk_lazarus ago

It's called "On the Geneology of Morality". There now I've taught you something but you've yet to teach me anything.

Yes if you're a white athiest you're a traitor to your own beliefs. What else do you have but the laws of nature? If nature says the strong survive and your people start dying then what else can we conclude? Weakness.

Anyway I'm done here. This reddit style comment system is garbage and just leads to bickering. Way to go voat, you stole reddits comment structure and claim to be better than them.

YoHomie ago

... and waiting

... and waiting

CantDentTheBrent ago

I'm just curious where God lives

kirk_lazarus ago

In a van down by the river

thebearfromstartrack ago

Jesus was also a Jew. It wouldn't surprise me if the OP was also a Jew. I don't know of any good Christian who would provoke others like that. A Kenite yes (John 8:44). Anyway fake Christians won't be getting into heaven either.

OKonthePK ago

To all pagans: go worship a tree like Africans. Ooga Booga Odin.

WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI ago

i like the posts that are anti jew and anti muslim because they are trying to destroy the white race better than this kind of post. They have already rejected Christianity so it's not like they are going to be cowed by the concequences of that decision, more likely they're just going to get butthurt about being told the consequences of that decision and decide to destroy white people even harder

redpilldessert ago

God would never have made blacks if he was real. Nor would be allow suffering in the world generally

speedisavirus ago

They never were supposed to be uplifted from proto human / ape. That is our sin, not God's.

LDIP ago

The mental gymnastics here are truly sickening

OKonthePK ago

Ave Christus Rex

Here_Comma_Suk_Dd ago

Take your outdated mind control somewhere else. Your soul will be jo different or more significant when they bury your worthless ass in the dirt. Almost everyone will forget you within 5 minutes and the world will go on just the same. You are not special or chosen because of your beliefs. In fact, they suck just as much as those you point the finger at. You can tell by your post you dont absorb the religion anyway.

1488HailFireRain ago

Nice fedora bro

talmoridor-x ago

Not an argument

Talc ago

different branches of same religion, should take their tantrums and infighting fit back to the middle eastern deserts where it belongs and stop bothering the rest of the world with it.

Doberman1 ago

Spoken by someone who has never read the Bible. Ignorance preaching at its finest. Jesus said I am the only way, not thru Islam, Hindu, Jews, ETC. I AM THE ONLY WAY.

Moms_spaghett1 ago

Tbf have you read all the other religious texts from all the other religions? You probably just cherry pick the worst parts of them just like people do with the Cristian Bible when they want to criticize it. They're all are actually pretty similiar to each other at the base and all contain plenty of bullshit.

Doberman1 ago

I don't expect you to understand. You haven't invited Jesus into your heart, so the Bible is just fiction to you. I assume you believe in nothing. So, let me ask you this, "If I'm right, you go to hell when you die. If you're right, nothing happens when I die. Which is the better position to take?"

Moms_spaghett1 ago

Also, I don't think he Bible is fiction in a way that it's all just fairy tales. I think it was written to be told as a story to help the people of the time grasp it's concepts. Most people couldn't read and stories were the way of passing information. I think you just take the stories much much too literally.

Moms_spaghett1 ago

believing in good out of fear doesn't seem like real love to me. I was raised Catholic I've had enough time to realize there is no actual heaven and hell. If anything we're probably reborn into out same lives fo live them over again. Most likely our energy just goes back to the source we came from, if you want to call that god then sure I believe in god. If you actually think you stay the same person you are when you die except that you're now a spirit is pretty stupid though. The person you've became in this life is all just a mesh of your genetics and experiences, that's how your personality was formed. What makes you angry sad and happy is dependent on chemicals released in your brain. If your brain is damaged your personality changes. If your brain is dead you won't have a "you" left. If anything leaves your body at death it's a glob of energy with no personality or ability to form or remember memories and thoughts, it's essentially not the "you" you know yourself as. It's stupid to think any of yourself would get carried on past death besides your basic energy so it would be even stupider to think that energy is going to be punished for eternity in hellfire.

Doberman1 ago

"A wise man fears God." So, you have more faith in your "wisdom" gathered from your extremely limited and short life span on this earth versus a text that has survived 2,000 years and has been pondered and considered by some of the smartest humans who have ever lived?

Talc ago

yes, each splinter is the only way, all the others are wrong. Every last one of them is the one true way, and every other one is wrong.

Doberman1 ago

I assume you believe in nothing. So, let me ask you this, "If I'm right, you go to hell when you die. If you're right, nothing happens when I die. Which is the better position to take?"

Talc ago

Not believing in something isn't the same as believing in nothing. I don't believe a whole load of myths, and the existence of gods is one of those myths, that's all. It's you who believes in nothing, in something which never existed outside the imaginations of people.

Which position is better to take? mine, as there is no more evidence for your god or any other god than there is for the existence of the Kraken, less than Sasqatch or the Loch Ness Monster. If I'm right, you're going to spend the entirety of your existence evading that which does not exist. If I'm wrong it doesn't necessarily mean you're right, it's not a binary choice, we could both end up facing a god we never heard of, but then you've still spent your life evading something which isn't real and ended up on the wrong side of the god-being anyway.

Truth is we're both picking one of a thousand or more options, and if we pick the wrong one we've messed up. I'm using a scientific approach (and if I ever see something that I feel might be evidence of a god I'm prepared to review my hypothesis, same as all these other myths), I assume you're following the faith you were born into in which case you're using a family tradition approach. apologies if I got that wrong.

Doberman1 ago

Your "scientific" approach changes with each generation. I seem to recall that the smartest minds thought the world was flat, at one time. I am confident in my belief in Jesus. However, from your post, it is you who seems to express doubt, not knowing if anything is out there, after death, and what it could be. If the Holy Ghost hasn't worked in your heart, then you'll never accept or believe in Jesus. Belief is all that is required by Jesus - John 3:16.

Talc ago

Your "scientific" approach changes with each generation

yes, science progresses, it doesn't deny reality, it accepts when evidence shows it was wrong. The alternative would be to continue to insist the earth was flat and that we were all created by a god.

Doberman1 ago

Yet, your scientific "progress" still leaves unanswered the most fundamental questions of all, "Who are we? & Why are we here?". Those 2 questions have remained unanswered for thousands of years and will remain unanswered, if you continue to not consider the possibility of God. A true scientist considers all possibilities, even if those possibilities are those they cannot fathom. Whereas, a false scientist doesn't seek answers; but rather, they seek support for their own agenda. So, which are you?

PaddyMcInfidel ago

Well, yea. Truth is exclusive. Competing truth claims, by definition, deny the validity of opposing views. This is basic logic.

Revelations2_9 ago

You can put your head in the sand and pretend the drama of human history isn't played out between Christianity, Judaism and Islam all you want. Doesn't make it less real.

Jews believe that Jews must enslave and rule the world.

Muslims believe the world must obey Islam.

Christians believe truth and righteousness will prevail.

Choose a side or stand on the sidelines and shut up.

talmoridor-x ago

Christians believe they don't have to do anything for truth and righteousness to prevail.

Talc ago

3 versions of an iron age myth from the middle east, why should I choose a side? they're all fantasy, I no more need to choose a side in this than I do in any other fiction.

How about quit your insane rantings, stop making excuses for toxic abrahamism and YOU shut up.