Failures and False Predictions
4chan Era
October 2017
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10/28/17 - Q claims that Hillary has been detained (edited to more accurately reflect the failed prediction- thanks Qultists). If this is so then there must not be much evidence against her, given that she's still out and about today! Unless you believe that she went through some shadow trial and is somehow being controlled, but countries where freedom and limited government overreach are valued aren't supposed to do things like that!
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10/28/17 - Q claims that Hillary's passport will be flagged on 10/30/17 and to expect massive riots as she's extradited.
8chan Era
January 2018
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01/21/18 - A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
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01/21/18 - Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
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01/22/18 - Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice.
February 2018
March 2018
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03/06/18 - The stage is set to release a video of Hillary Clinton doing spooky and evil things that would be impossible to defend and '[liberal undo]'. While this didn't happen, it did introduce some curious Q devotees to the world of child porn.
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03/15/18 - Q declares 'March Madness' and that 'the public will soon know'. Nothing came to pass.
April 2018
May 2018
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05/16/18 - Q passes off a shitty photoshop as proof that he has some sort of official document, implied to be an executive order.
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05/19/18 - Q leaks his own password. "On purpose", of course.
June 2018
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06/17/18 - Q engages with somebody who posted a verifiably misleading youtube video as if it were real (to the point where his followers were protesting).
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06/17/18 - Q posts this horrible photoshop job as if it were real.
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06/18/18 - Q responds to a horrible photoshop job as if it were real.
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06/26/18 - July - the month the world knows the TRUTH. Conspiracy no more. (Nothing came to pass.)
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06/27/18 - Q posts a link to yournewswire, a website known for straight-up fabricating information. Additionally, it has a twitter tag appended, suggesting that he found it randomly on twitter. Not great infosec for somebody dropping top-secret knowledge.
July 2018
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07/03/18 - Q posts a link to Breitbart with the twitter tag again.
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07/03/18 - Q posts a photo suggesting that he is on Airforce One. It is quickly debunked as an Obama-era photo that somebody took a picture of with an iphone. Spends quite a while doing damage controlled, including the old 'I trolled u' defense.
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07/31/18 - For his 1776th post, Q uploads an image that's supposed to function as 'proof' that he's working with Trump (Trump's signature + "#1776"). However, not only are the '#' and '1' very different from Trump's own handwriting, but even Q's followers found evidence that it's another photoshop job.
August 2018
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08/10/18 - Q's password is revealed yet again by a former believer attempting to reach out to those who are currently sucked in and debunks the belief that Q's passwords contain clues. Q finally upgrades to a secure trip.
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08/12/18 - Q makes an angry post suggesting that Omarosa admitted to broadcasting a 'CRIMINAL VIOLATION' by leaking recordings from the White House in violation of an NDA. Not only are NDA violations civil matters rather than criminal, but NDAs don't apply to public servants. It is also interesting that Q would get upset over leaks of confidential information when the entire premise of 'The Storm' is that a top government official with a seemingly endless supply of knowledge about international happenings is leaking information about vital government operations to strangers on an insecure message board known for harboring political extremists and at times illegal content.
Various/Misc
Q built up the release of the IG report for months. The night before the report was released, after its actual contents had been reported on for weeks, he panicked and pulled some pretty ridiculous damage control.
Occasionally Q types 'codes'. These 'codes' are easily demonstrated to be gibberish by experts in infosec and cryptography, aside from one that appears to be some kind of (Microsoft?) product license.
Deception Tactics
Q uses a number of tactics to keep people from catching onto the fact that he's spinning lies, or to keep them believing that he's making correct predictions. Some of these tactics are standard fare among false prophets, while others are new to the digital age. Here are some examples:
Most of the predictions and messages he posts are vague to the point where a large number of happenings can be applied to them. For example, 'watch the water' - if anything happens near water, or involving water, Q's followers can use it as confirmation that his prediction came true.
Q uses words that have been made by Trump in the past and/or are commonly used by Trump to give people the impression that he has some sort of relationship with Trump when Trump uses them again.
Why do most of Q's posts involve things that are currently hot topics in the news? If he's a super secret agent who is apparently privy to everything happening behind the scenes, then why would he almost exclusively discuss current events that are publicly known, e.g. the IG report and North Korea? Is everything the Deep State is involved in something that is publicly documented to some degree, aside from off-handed things like the Hillary Clinton tape that never materialized?
Similar to the point above, because Q's posts involve things that are either currently in the news or frequently in the news, there is a high probability that something will happen involving those things in the very near future. For example, there is a scandal within the Catholic Church every other month; if somebody predicts that there will be a scandal in the Catholic Church within the next month or two, there is an extremely high probability that this prediction will come true. Another example of this is [NK]; with Trump and Kim meeting together, there was an extremely high probability that something noteworthy would happen. That said, Q has missed his mark with this tactic, as those making educated guesses often do. For example, heavily suggesting that there would be some sort of big happening between the USA and Iran very soon after the cancellation of the Iran deal.
In the case of the failed Iran deal predictions, Q uses another distraction- posting about Iran again and again to give followers the impression that things are still going to happen and make them forget when the deadline has passed. If/when something big does happen in Iran, his followers will believe that he accurately predicted it despite the fact that he's been hinting for months that something would happen very soon.
Why does Q photoshop some images that he implies are real? Why does he run many images through filters and/or crop them, two of the easiest ways to make an image impossible to reverse image search? If all of them are real and taken by Q, then why are some images clearly amateur while others seem to be taken by professional photographers? The answer is that, while Q does take some photos (e.g. the ones with the pen), he draws photos from different sources (or takes pictures of them, in the case of welcomeaboard.jpg) and edits them so that they can't be reverse-searched.
Q uses thought-terminating cliches like 'trust the plan' and 'disinformation is necessary' to keep the people he's hooked from thinking clearly about what's going on. His followers rationalize failed prediction after failed prediction as 'there are things going on behind the scenes' or 'Q said disinfo needs to happen to throw off the Deep State (why would the Deep State use 8chan of all places for information??)', which protects Q's legitimacy from being questioned.
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Womb_Raider ago
This is a soapbox account. It's worth noting. 3+ year account and his first comment of all time was three days ago.
shadow332 ago
What's a soapbox account and why would affect what's in this post?
Womb_Raider ago
You're an owner of a Soap Box subverse. SoapBox members are basically JIDF on voat. They employ COINTELPRO tactics to divide and conquer, and you are suddenly using dozens of accounts to concern troll the Q movement.
You are trying to black pill people into losing faith.
hangry ago
Fuck off. You have no idea what you're talking about. I'm a SBBH owner and am pure white American who voted for The Donald. Stop being a cunt.
Womb_Raider ago
Weak trolling.
YugeDick ago
Weak argument.
Womb_Raider ago
How many of your accounts are you going to bring out?
YugeDick ago
Uh... This is only my second one. It wouldn't take much digging to identify my other one and see I haven't signed into it since I made this one.
Check for yourself. I'll wait here. Need a hint? Check my subverse ownership.
You're a paranoid fool whose feelings are hurt because you got proved to be a fool today. I know it's hard to realize you're in a cult but you're gonna be ok once you admit the reality of it.
Womb_Raider ago
You're going to claim I made a strawman when I'm accusing @hangry of being SBBH as well, and you can clearly see in his profile that he is, in fact, SBBH as well.
You're a fool making an ironic accusation.
hangry ago
I am SBBH never said otherwise. It is your warm, kind, and friendly home away from home on the interwebs.
Womb_Raider ago
That's why SBBH is downvoating me en masse, eh?
WhiteRonin ago
You like me are targeted by our associations. Both sides will claim we chose the wrong team. We both get downvotes because of that.
I haven’t heard or read of any calls to get you.
Are there people on sbbh that don’t like you? Probably.
But thi k about who it is.
Womb_Raider ago
It appears to be a majority of SBBH. You, once, were one of my most volatile detractors too. Don't forget that.
WhiteRonin ago
I don’t remember. Yeah, I plan need you a few times but you were like most people I ran into.
Tallest is my toy and will stay that way.
Womb_Raider ago
None of that made sense.
WhiteRonin ago
Sorry. “Plan need” should have been “pinged” and to give a better meaning to this. Those pings weren’t in a good way but being an ass. But that was in the early days when we ran into each other.
After or PMs, I just raze you now every so often. I don’t think I even bother fresh that much since then. However, like I said, Tallest isn’t off my shit list. He has that amazing staying power on that list that has surpassed all other goats.
Womb_Raider ago
I got 5 downvotes for saying what you said didn’t make sense. I was right, but your people downvoted me to punish my voice.
WhiteRonin ago
I lost 2 for my badly worded content so your people down voted me.
Look, we can go back and forth making assumptions or just deal with stupid down votes.
Who is making all the claims that SBBH is XYZ in anon / qrv and to for all new refugees to see? See how we will get into a circular debate? It’s rather retarded trying to find the first instance where this all started.
Do you we start blaming people for up voting friends and down voting those we don’t like?
Look, we can cry all day about aloud fee feez or just grow a pair and move on. Isn’t this what we tell refugees?
We got an asshole running around crying libel but yet slanders a whole sub. So, because like I said earlier, you get put into that group just as much as I get put into mine. Personally, That Little fucker kept crossing the line with me even after I told him I promised gassy that I’d cool it down. I’ve kept my promise to gassy even though I don’t like that dude. Tallest didn’t want a part of it. He talks shit and I call him out.
I don’t screw with freahmeat unless it’s him in anon. But I haven’t pinged him in months.
So look at what’s going on here. A party is a dick to b party. Both parties friends do the votes. If both a and b would just stay away from each other votes wouldn’t happen.
We could test something to prove a point. You might like what I’m suggesting but it’s the smallest group to work with. Tell your people to stop posting about the big bad meanie sbbh for 2 weeks. I’m gonna bet that down vote should drop seriously and only a few with bugs up tenor asses will still do it. If Tallest leaves me alone - I’m still willing to call that truce.
I sort of like you dude that’s why I don’t bother you and if I do comment it’s like I said part of the raze or part of the post. I don’t go out of my way to look for you.
Womb_Raider ago
I don’t have a “group”. You people bunch all SBBH-critics into one super mass and it’s erroneous. That said, even the SBBH detractors don’t engage in organized voting. SBBH does. I’ve seen my account downvoted across the board many times, meaning someone is going into my comment history and methodically DVing my most recent 10-20 comments. I don’t see that from anyone else. It’s not cool.
As for the rest of what you said, I would stop talking about SBBH if it were clear the manipulation would cease, but what you’ve done to PG and GA is obvious. There’s a difference between trolling and attempting to control the website’s content or even to a lesser extent control the content of a subverse - particularly a subverse your people did not create originally. Those are all valid points.
I don't know what more to say on the topic honestly.
WhiteRonin ago
Dude I was I trying to be chill and now you go on about me or sbbh as me. Your usage of “you” is vague and triggering. Not cool buddy.
I quote you, “You people bunch all SBBH-critics into one super mass and it’s erroneous.”
Then you go on about how things “you people” did.
Huh????
Clarify for me if I’m wrong but you just said group people is erroneous but then rant about how you just grouped people. This is crazy talk to be honest.
IIRC, te last time I actually posted in PG was like day 2 or 3. Probably day 2. So, nope not me.
As for GA. Sryazie keeps an eye on me and we pm every so often which is normally after I dug up a traitor that has been verified by vindicator. She obvisously checks out my claims. She knows I’m a fence sitter about Q and she knows I keep the shit posting out. Well, I’ve slipped a few through but it’s been normally when all kinds of other shit got through too. I barely post enough to be noticed by Q anons.i even respectfully stayed away on 11.11.
Some sbbh will side with one or the other and hardly both.
As for your downvotes, clean your realProtectVoat group up before considering sbbh. I get down voted 2-3 on the average. Yes, rPV does what you claim they don’t. The days of when me and Tallest go at it, I definitely see down votes continue. So, stop whining and deal with it.
I also told you that this blame A or B is a circular logic problem. And I even suggested a way to test yours and mine theories.
Your recent 10-20 comments were here. And you were in the fight just as much as the others. ZB was being honest. You can tell by how he rolls. If he was being a dick he is being a dick. If he’s like above when he said he up coated you he was being legit. Being paranoid is a bad habit. Yeah, I start up with people and then if I cool down and ask for clarification shit normally ends up cool and misunderstandings get cleared up.
I highly suggest learning the word sorry and mean it. You can still be a dick about it but people will relaize that you weren’t being a dick about what they thought you were being a dick about.
You never did apologize for screen shorting our pm and turning it a float post about how you are turning me. Even then, I looked away and didn’t give you shit for being a fuck. You broke my trust buddy and I thought we could be cool with each other even being form different sides of the track.
So why do you consistently want to get into about this shit? It’s fucking childish dude. Are you still in school?
Womb_Raider ago
You’ve not been shy of your SBBH affiliation before now...
WhiteRonin ago
Huh?
Why you wanting to get into it?
I am not them and what they did is their responsibility. I take responsibility for my actions.
Womb_Raider ago
Yet act like part of a hivemind
WhiteRonin ago
It’s sad that I’ve been cool with you during these last few exchanges but I’m not gonna sit here and let you insult me.
Don’t even bothering replying.