Voat cannot be the only place we can congregate. Edit: There were places on 8chan and 4chan to talk about voat, but the reception isn't great. No one really seemed to give a shit about our website going down. They're either too scared to say anything or they're complicit.
This needs to be a learning experience. We need other options besides voat as failsafes or backups if voat isn't reachable. This outage was a blessing. We need to have contingencies setup and we need the full support of all loyal goats to help out.
Voat isn't just about your ability to use racial slurs. It's about freedom of ideas. Without that, we are lost.
I want to add that many sites do not let you make new accounts or post if you're on a VPN. They've long since banned VPNs from being able to participate online. This is also very bad. They want to tie your ideas to your person, and that can easily be used to target you. This world wants you to be its bitch, and if you're not its bitch in some form, it doesn't want you.
I understand that VPNs are used by spammers, but by banning VPNs you're forcing people to use an identity which can be used to harass you and target you. This is a serious problem.
ANONYMITY IS THE WEAKNESS TO THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY
A little flowchart to help understand why losing anonymity is bad. This isn't our current administrations fault, by the way. You can thank the left for this. https://kek.gg/i/4SQPfF.png
PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBS2 ago
I’m actively working on a backup site.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
I'm not a racist or a Nazi. I am a realist who is jew wise.
Mylon ago
4ch and 8ch are shit because they have a low signal to noise ratio. Reddit became popular (and by extension voat as it follows the Reddit formula) because it's an effective curation method.
Kekalicious ago
Can we have a anonymous number generator? I would like to get my dubs. We could lose the name fag nonsense as well. I should not require a back check on how long i have been sucking goat cock to see if what i say is important. We are all equally worthless as individuals here. Any short bus riding goat can smell out a shill. We just need to start making wishes we make on the gems in their/our bellies.
RampancyLambentRaven ago
We need to never forget what the fuck just happened and we need to use it as a learning experience. We cant get fooled again and screwed with again. We have to be tougher and better. The entire world is against us and wants us dead. We have to defend ourselves.
baphometsrage ago
Another user spoke on the preview site of buying voatisdown.com and got someone to and seems to have gotten a forum going. I myself bought isvoatdown.com and although I'm not the most web creation-savvy I can use it to help coordinate some communications and help direct people to the most functional alternative for the time being. A lot of us want to keep this and this sort of thing going, and we will.
Pulverizor ago
Thank you for your service.
hang_em_high ago
Is there a decent decentralized version of one of these sites in the works or already out there?
Pulverizor ago
Know anything about ZeroNet?
hang_em_high ago
Not really. How does that even work? It says I can browse the sites I am seeding offline so do I need terabytes of websites on my computer for this to even work? If you run an obscure site will anyone seed that aside from you?
TestForScience ago
Sounds like the same amount of hazing we give to everyone that comes here from a different place.
Don’t be a pussy.
Diggernicks ago
Oldfags keep your circle jerking amongst yourselves to a minimum.
nicevpneh ago
You can call it hazing but anyone who gives a shit about what we care about should be scared that if voat goes offline for good, they're next.
Which means those people who talked shit are/were shills. Stupid.
edgelord666 ago
must protect le blood and le honour amirite?????
DAE le nazis were sooooooo cool?????
truthwoke33 ago
I shit talk a lot on voat, but I actually like it here. Youre posts are perpetuallt miserable.
Why are you even here?
edgelord666 ago
niqqa who dafuq is you?
truthwoke33 ago
Someone who has a lot of opposing viewpoints from the super majority of voat users but regardless enjoys the banter and appreciates the uncensored discussions.
You just seem to be a bitter troll who's trying to get a rise out of people here but has mostly failed to do so. So without good trolling targets I don't see the purpose in being here. But as I said before I don't appreciate censored discussion, and would never call for anyone to be banned (except for spambots, but those aren't people) even if I vehemently disagree with or even hate them, by all means jabber away.
Tallest_Skil ago
9 posts left.
UrAShillHarry ago
MFW unlimited alt accounts you stupid faggot
Tallest_Skil ago
Reported for violations of US law. 9 posts left on that one, too.
LiteralShillAccount ago
reported for being a niggerfag, which I believe is a bannable offense
I love how you think I can't just keep spawnng alts as much as I want
Tallest_Skil ago
wew lad
edgelord666 ago
shut the fuck up you little faggot
-sanegoatiswear
MetalAegis ago
Across all of the congratulation points the Goats dispersed too, not including preview.voat I think https://voten.co/ is the best solution as a fallback point.. the TOS specifically states that Voten is pro free speech and rules on "harassment" are somewhat ambiguous (in regards to redpilling material à la Voat style would seemingly be allowed). Plus porn is not allowed on any channel and no email is required. The conservative channel is 20 times bigger than the leftist channel and the whole site is underpopulated, in a lot of ways it reminds me of early Voat before the reddit exoduses.
Diggernicks ago
Any website that's scared of "porn" is obviously full of moralfag Christian niglets. Fuck censorship in any way shape or form.
MetalAegis ago
Maybe they realize porn is a weapon of the kike.
GenghisSean ago
Along with others I am skeptical of the Google integration. I got a kick out of this line in the terms.
If you post a painting that could be considered hentai does that count as art or porn?
playitagainsam ago
I'll know it when I see it.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
I don’t trust that site at all. You have a choice of either setting up a user account or simply logging in with your Google account. If they are interconnected with Google like that, it is a bad sign.
MetalAegis ago
I agree, avoid google.. however I didn't see any trackers on that site.
FreshConduit ago
Discord where almost everyone has permission to create channels
It's going to be a mess.
TheBuddha ago
Voat Goats, displaced from more places than the Jews.
nicevpneh ago
oy vey?
TheBuddha ago
They're gonna put you in an oven!
Moldy ago
Is Voat banning VPNs?
nicevpneh ago
I'm posting from a VPN but I haven't tried to create an account on an VPN so I'm not sure. I was stopped from creating an account on reddit on a VPN from the CAPCHA system. Said I was a bot.
BentAxel ago
There were at least a thread per hour on it. Did you go to /pol?
nicevpneh ago
No in my experiences 4chan /pol/ regularly pruned and slid posts about voat
chags ago
There was at least a thread in 4chan, I saw it.
BentAxel ago
without pol I would have never thought of preview.voat.co or known about the threads on 8chan. I never thought to go to reddit. Fuck those fags.
nicevpneh ago
catalog
Notmistaken ago
If you are going to use reddit, speak up and challenge the viewpoints on there. Too many go unchecked.
CannedDogSpam ago
So this is my third attempt at a generic reply or warning here...
There are several actors here that decided to focus on profitability vs community in Discus and Riot. I took part in some of the convo's and bailed out. They actually chased away users that wanted to just stand up regular forum software to get something online so we could all talk. It devolved into "us vs them" on hardware and connectivity then all the way down to profitability of any new site and such. It was fucking horrible.
Some of us actually fucking care here, and about the community. I've dug through the Voat codebase. While I don't like it one bit, it's Voat. I'll also let you know you're not anonymous on Voat...
I'm personally looking at my EC2 crap right now figuring out instance sizing and costs. Costs don't mean much to me now, but when I open up the shit, it'll probably mean more...I'm also doing a few other odds and ends which is why something just didn't stand up during the outage. The legal system works slowly.
Past that will not divulge, but there will be an alternate Free Speech platform for the internet. After watching what happened and all the crap that happened on various sites, something else needs to be around. Competition is good and I don't consider certain sites "competition"...
nicevpneh ago
This isn't about having a website to post on. This is an ideological war that the left is ready to die over because they know that if they don't command complete and total authority then they cannot succeed. I don't want to discourage you but I endear you to be careful about setting up something free speech related. You can obviously see what's happened with Putt here.
CannedDogSpam ago
Why do you think I'm not one of those that wanted to just jump in and buy a site? Lots of protections are needed for this type of thing, and I don't think the management here even knew what they were getting themselves into.
Lundynne ago
There was a thread on 8ch, and it wasn't really shitting on Voat. They seemed quite regretful really, and determined not to have it happen to them.
There was also a thread on /r/conspiracy, which seemed to be full of goats. The Redditors seemed happy Voat was down (obviously).
I didn't check anywhere else, but I think you are being a bit melodramatic.
nicevpneh ago
4chan regularly deletes entire threads that have any mention of voat as the OP. 8chan allows a voat board but was being trolled by (((someone))).
constitutionranger ago
Yeah, I was there. It was just some NEET trolling a bit.
theoldones ago
theoretically, what what would be the budget and shopping list for someone wanting to create a new voat?
if we can build other site backbones, then we might be able to use modded editions of the main voat API to space out
JoeKerr ago
Hear!!! Hear!!!!
Volksgemeinschaft ago
/r/milliondollarextreme is probably the last place on Reddit that I would consider as being similar to here.
It'll probably be banned soon I would imagine
Wahaha ago
I'm not going to run an alternative site because of, muh laws, in my country, what's your excuse?
HidiotKojima ago
I find out that people on 4chan hate voat...I don't really know why. It's the same ideas that are discussed with the same kind of anti political correctness.
chags ago
Because we are namefags and pointfags. The argument is kinda valid, having a name and collecting points can interfere in your expression. Peer pressure, kool-aid, etc.
drj2 ago
Cause 4chan isn't what it used to be. You're still member berrying the old chan of how it was, not how it is now.
albatrosv15 ago
Is this fucking year 2014 or something? "Google is your friend" -> "Vpn is your friend".
common_sense ago
8ch.net/voat/ should be our congregation in times of crisis. At least temporarily. At least we know it won't be shut down there.
drj2 ago
Wasn't that being censored too?
tendiesonfloor ago
Nope, just arguing with the incel weebs about all their cartoon pedo porn.
NotHereForPizza ago
If you're asking if it's run by a faggot, the answer is yes.
dooob ago
Where were yiu doing the outtage?
NotHereForPizza ago
I'm regularly in multiple places at once - on purpose.
dooob ago
Wh didnt you come to our backup site? Did your masters pull you? Why would they do that, something you shouldnt see?
NotHereForPizza ago
I certainly visited.
I rarely intervene. This time, I volunteered and decided to help them out.
/Ourguys/ won.
dooob ago
So it is all a coincidence no shills came to the backup. Do you even know what the backup site is?
drj2 ago
shh don't tell them.
nicevpneh ago
I'm not sure about censored but it was being shilled/forum slid.
Somecowsspeakhuman ago
It was not being 'forum slid.' Jesus, there wasn't enough activity to slide anything. I went to page two or three and it was already dated to January.
ArchmageMordenkainen ago
Shills are something we deal with on Voat too. H8chan is definitely among the better fallout shelters out there, and outside of certain boards is pro free-speech in the same way Voat is.
t. 8chan poster
SweetChicken ago
If it is as all possible, I suggest we legally form a milita. Or is this a terrible idea? Just spitting it out there....
constitutionranger ago
Yes, so long as this militia has no real leader, doesn't hold meetings IRL, but is just an idea that people spread. Ideas are unstoppable.
SweetChicken ago
Can you still see my comment? I can’t and it looks like it was deleted
TestForScience ago
Voat has some pretty crazy caching issues. It’ll sometimes be a solid day before I can see a post or comment of mine, even though other people see it and can comment on it.
Sooo that’s probably what your problem was there for a bit.
SweetChicken ago
Ah, okay thanks for the explanation
Wahaha ago
Can you even do that legally with a group spread around the world?
ZenAtheist ago
I've been saying this for a long time here.
PhilaFerret ago
"No one likes us, we don't care."
daskelt ago
E
kalgon ago
They simply are jealous faggots because we can say nigger kike all day long
100LinksToGunter ago
Freedom is harsh, they would rather have padded cells.
I'd rather be uncomfortable and free than in luxury and imprisoned.
Oh well.
kalgon ago
Most people choose comfort over freedom
Most
Remove modern comfort and you get riots all over the place, remove individual liberties... As long as comfort is there apathy and complacency will remain strong enough to keep things afloat
addie89 ago
They think Voat is and echo chamber full of racist nazis. People don't have sympathy for free speech.
MaunaLoona ago
I'll take free speech racist nazis over smug authoritarian leftists any day.
100LinksToGunter ago
It's retarded that a bunch of nazi fascists think open discussion = nazi white supremacy.
The marxist left cucks project so hard it's past the point of ridiculous.
Aprioned ago
I've never met one that I would consider so on this website, people are just retards that label anything they don't like as Nazism
IGiveZeroFucks ago
Hub of individuals awakened to reality.
edgelord666 ago
because that's exactly what voat is you faggot
-sanegoatiswear
kalgon ago
If voat is an echo chamber full of racist nazis, then it's the best echo chamber of the best racist nazis
BentAxel ago
Sarcasm aside I will disagree because I honestly don't believe that. Nazi is tossed around a lot, people have no clue what nationalism like that means. It comes with leftest propaganda, violence for those who don't continue the narrative and dictatorship. I love that people think it, because it triggers the stupid. But in reality, this place is great for everything that is shared.
fartyshorts ago
You flatterer.
CIA_KILLED_JFK ago
4chan says Voat is a jew-honeypot. is that true?
Kill-Commies ago
Anybody who's running a windows OS should forget any notion of security from alphabet agencies. They already scraped your data a long time ago, you're stuck on team "bad goy".
Basic VPN and opsec are the only extra security steps worth taking IMO since anything else is still vulnerable to the FBI/CIA survailence grid.
chags ago
Voat won't block vpns. I can't use any exit of my vpn to 4chan, they banned freakin hundreds of ips. Which one would you say is a honeypot?
CowWithBeef ago
What are they gonna do, put us in camps and delouse us with zyklon b?
NotHereForPizza ago
That's accurate, but I think your own wording is confusing you. They would say it's run by jews, while it likely is.
See, the secret about the jews, is that they want you to hate them.
100LinksToGunter ago
Well you can't have a victim complex if you're not a victim.
NotHereForPizza ago
They self-expand their own importance. It's manufactured. However, the veil is thin. Lift it.
dv1155 ago
No need to worry. I work with putt and atko at the NSA. I just asked them, they both assured me it's not a honeypot, and 100% legitimate.
CIA_KILLED_JFK ago
Whew! Thanks.
nicevpneh ago
Do you think they would admit to it if it were?
CIA_KILLED_JFK ago
SHUT IT DOWN!
hansbrinker ago
https://gab.ai is a good place and had posts about voat
we_kill_creativity ago
What about a Minds.com group?
Wahaha ago
I heard they censor stuff over there, so not sure how good of a place it could be.
drj2 ago
Sure you aren't confusing it with twitter?
Fambida ago
Gab is not nearly as bad as Twitter, but it's not as free speech loving as it should be.
GenghisSean ago
I have never seen anything censored on sealion.club. I don't go on twitter clones very often though so idk.
Wahaha ago
Yes. People shilled for gab in the past on voat. Goats checked it out and came back reporting censorship issues. I don't really care either way, since it's something like Twitter and I never got the point of Twitter anyway. Never mind the censorship. Since the very beginning back in 2006 I didn't understand the platform or why anybody would use it and what for.
drj2 ago
Oh good to know. I never checked it or bothered with it, just didn't keep looking in to it.
I mean I kind of get it, it's kind of like having your own blog and you can share your thoughts that more people will see. But it's probably all for memes instead of important things.
Wahaha ago
Yeah, maybe it's the blog for computer illiterate people. The ones that don't have much to say, hence the character limit. That makes sense.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
I can’t ignore how it is run, which makes it bad in practice, but Twitter is actually one of my more favorite social media in terms of its mechanics. It is a very efficient method of news dissemination, which makes it good in theory.
GenghisSean ago
I agree. I've been encouraging people here to check out sealion.club (at the risk of appearing like a shill). I found it when I was first looking for free speech alternatives to Twitter. It came out before Gab and had a lot less of kickstarter glam/marketing campaign vibe. To me the Gab launch seemed heavily politicized out of the gate which is not what I look for in a free speech supporting website.
Mastadon is also a cool twitter like site which has the benefit of allowing anyone to host a server, with their own moderation rules. Even though SJWs are detestable they use mastadon alongside free speech advocates and everyone is happy. You can @ users across instances so there is this meta network, but everyone can play nice in their own communities. It kind of takes the idea of subverses to their logical conclusion where the hosting of the individual spaces are decentralized.
dontforgetaboutevil ago
They probably feel about voat the way I feel about them.
SebuttYopick ago
There are rumors this place connected to admin @8chan.co. so indeed, maybe 8ch.net/ and the 8 Ch voat sub... there is a chance of 4Chan, Medium, Minds, Liveleak, Bitchute, Vimeo.com, DailyMotion.com, Steemit, StreamLabs.com, disclose.TV, blogspot, WordPress.com, Gab.ai etc some of the old school bulletin boards or sites like typepad.com, metatube could also work?
Chiefpacman ago
Yes, I heard 6 million of us were verbally abused and sent to concentration subs.
This aggression cannot be left unchallenged! We deserve a homeland that is funded and protected by the richer aggregator sites.
NeverForget
Voatocaust
Ajaxofbarbaria ago
Goy vey!
smittieaj ago
It was a goyah!
derkataIog ago
pac, check the OP. fucking bullshit account.
it's obvious shilling for this honeypot, which is now openly run by paid SJW shills.
and fyi, i've been hard at work growing a dev team and making a solid un-shill-fuckable version of voat. few more months and we'll be deploying. so hold on to your arse, motherfucker! - sanegoatiswear
Argumentative ago
yeno what fuckit drop me a link when it's done I'l check it out. why not, diversify yo portfolio nigga and all that jazz
Podd ago
yep never hurts to have another bookmark.
nicevpneh ago
So you agree with me that we need another option besides voat to be able to congregate that's shill-proof and anti-sjw. I'm ok with that. I'm growing weary of the internet lately and I'm making posts on a VPN. You can't post with a vpn on 4chan and 8chan, and sites like reddit completely prevent users from making new accounts if you're on a VPN. Will you allow users to post on VPN's?
Justwhiteofcenter ago
I have also posted on 8ch via vpn. So I imagine you just need a different vpn provider.
ArchmageMordenkainen ago
What are you talking about? I don't know about 4chan but you can easily post on 8chan with a VPN. I've done so multiple times.
nicevpneh ago
I can't post there on my VPN.
ArchmageMordenkainen ago
Well, I'm not sure what to tell you. Is it possible that your VPN service is the one blocking 8chan and not the other way around? It's definitely possible to view the sight with a VPN, I have both observed and participated in such multiple times.
nicevpneh ago
My vpn has been banned on 8ch and it even shows why and that it's been denied permanently. I can browse but I can't post.
ArchmageMordenkainen ago
And that's your VPN, not all VPNs. Chances are someone else used the same IP your VPN uses to post CP (which is the only thing on 8ch that can get you banned across the whole site), and as a result that IP got banned.
derkataIog ago
oh yes, not only agree, but after i proved that shills had taken over voat a year ago, i learned to code, grew a dev team, and have spent 6 months actively developing a replacement site. (after spending a shit ton of time figuring out the security of it all, as well as a couple other fun side projects).
privacy is a right. any site that stoops to TSA-level dislogic ie "muh spammers/people talk too much, so let's limit their ability to speak" etc) is not a site for free speech - that includes limiting a users' ability to protect their identifying information when connecting.
that = nearly if not all major and minor social networks on the front web today.
Dr_Shekel_Nigger ago
First off, you’re “sanegoatiswear”, and you’re not totally sane, so what you say has to be taken with a very big grain of salt. That being said, shills have gotten a definitive foothold and momentum on Voat. The most outrageous conspiracy theories are the ones that regularly make the front page these days. Are conspiracies going on? Absolutely. Is an agenda being foisted upon us by all the corporations, billionaires, media, and politicians who have dual citizenship with a particular other country? 100% yes. Were kids fucked in a pizza place? I don’t know; I don’t have enough evidence to draw a definitive conclusion, although podesta was clearly into pedo shit and a weirdo. Were school shootings staged? Fuck no! The gov is too incompetent to even pull such a thing off, and the media and politicians have already created the necessary ingredients and elements within our society for these shootings to occur organically anyway, without any MKUltra or staging. But the wildest of these conspiracies have recently been voted to the front page like they’re fact. And what does that do? It makes us look like we don’t check our sources, and like we don’t assess and analyze information with clear heads. It delegitimizes Voat as a platform and makes us look as basement dwelling as 4chan. The same shills or larpers or retarded basement dwellers who will say the government can’t find its ass with both hands, will say they think the gov can pull off organizing thousands of fake witnesses and videos here in the USA. Come on. Can they pull such a thing off thousands of miles away from home in a lesser developed nation like Syria? Of course. Or a crime with no witnesses like the poisoning in Britain? Quite possible. But the gov can’t fake a school shooting here in the USA, come the fuck on. And shills are getting statements that it is fact voted up to the top of our front page, repeatedly, to delegitimize is. And it works! Anyone who saw our front page after the Broward County school shooting would have laughed out loud and never come back, reinforced and reaffirmed in their belief that this is a website of mentally ill and Russian bots.
Anyway, it pisses me off. And so do self taught basement dwellers who are opinionated as fuck and consider themselves know-it-alls. I mean, how much does acting like a know it all when you have no formal education and genuine, hands-on, first-hand research in the field, exemplify the mindset of a teenager?
Anyway, /rant
derkataIog ago
by all means, go through my top and bottom posts and comments at @sanegoatiswear . there are a few of the major megadumps of evidence i have posted.
Chiefpacman ago
Hey sane! You remember me. Good.
Can you pm me the site name? I’ll definitely bookmark/check it out.
derkataIog ago
when it comes out, will do, chief!
Righttobeoffended ago
They are too busy thumbing each other in the ass