My position on jewish deaths is that even if they happened, they had it coming. First they were living in a land in witch they did not belong. When asked to leave, they declared war instead. Now they live in the US, and complain that anti semetism is on the raise. Maybe the should take a fucking hint as to what could happen to them in the future.
Jews were living in Germany for something like 800 years. And what do you mean by declared war? You mean stuff like engaging in Marxist shite? Please. A group of people is not to be taken as an individual actor and have no collective responsibility. Some jews did that, some others not. What I find scary about these neo nazi views is judging a whole group as one person. Instead of individually. I hate Marxists Jews as anyone, and Marxist Gentiles too, but only individually.
There is no "the" jew, this is precisely that crazy collectivist thing. There are only individuals, some jewish, some not, some mixed like me. My jewish fathers was not any less individualist than my goy mother. No difference. Both did not care about their race or nation just the family. "the jew" does not exist the same way as "the english" does not exist.
The jews always preach individualism in the hopes of avoiding hate due to the fact that it is always a group of jews behind any push for gay rights, nigger immigration or dirty banking practices.
It doesn't work here. Voat knows better. Voat in tribal.
The Holocaust happened. The question is what exactly did happen. Mass murders of Jews in Eastern Europe is a historical fact. It is also the fact that most of the Holocaust stories in circulation today, including the ones that the official policies were built upon, are totally shameless fakes.
A lot of disinformation was generated and used for short-term political gain by the victors, who might have shot themselves in the foot by that in the long term.
Jewish Bolsheviks killed millions of people in Russia and attempted to do the same in Germany and some other places.
Rise of the Nazis and their treatment of Jews was a reaction to that.
The Holocaust as we know it is a myth and propaganda to a very high degree. A lot of "documented facts" are basically fiction and pure shameless fabrication.
Which still does not mean that there was no mass murder of Jews in the Nazi occupied Eastern Europe. Because there was. There were death squads herding people to desolate places, like forests, and shooting them. It took a great psychological tool on those shooters and even Nazi officials admitted that it makes them break down and they needed to subject them to intensified indoctrination telling them why what they are doing is a good and necessary job.
Really, don't be that guy. Don't go full retard like your enemies. Stay real.
Which still does not mean that there was no mass murder of Jews in the Nazi occupied Eastern Europe.
It means you need proof that there was.
Because there was.
Asserting that once again doesn't make it true.
There were death squads herding people to desolate places, like forests, and shooting them.
1) Prove it.
2) Prove it was more than the odd rogue unit that tends to show up and massacre people during wars.
It took a great psychological tool on those shooters and even Nazi officials admitted that it makes them break down and they needed to subject them to intensified indoctrination telling them why what they are doing is a good and necessary job.
More baseless accusations.
Really, don't be that guy. Don't go full retard like your enemies. Stay real.
Welcome to Voat, faggot. Anecdotes aren't considered valid evidence like they are at the other place.
There is lot of evidence if you are willing to see it. As for me, living here, it is a common knowledge and there are still people around who remember what happened.
Just go on. I have seen on Voat people shouting about chemtrails and reptilians in governments, so it's Ok. As you say, welcome to Voat, faggot.
@Crensch has studied this "holocaust" business thoroughly. He is capable of rational discourse. He is capable of providing concrete evidence for every claim he makes. I would suggest that you avoid ad hominem, because you're damaging the credibility of the holocaust. If you have something other than a sworn statement from one man, bring it. If it's gonna be hurr hurr retard hurr hurr teenager hurr hurr I'm from that area so I know stuff? That isn't gonna work here. Elevate your argument, Sir.
I would appreciate a tag on any discourse you have of this nature, Sir. I've yet
to see any evidence. The use of shocking and graphic images of war has been used as 'evidence', and it simply isn't.
Bomber Harris alone deserved dedicated trials. Still the statue of that murderous faggot is still standing in London. Hopefully the Islamic New Europeans will smash it to rubble one day as a piece of idolatry.
From what I already understand of the Nuremberg trials they were Show Trials. So unfortunately everything about them is tainted. The best narrative of the "holocaust" is still that of David Irving, the best researcher on the topic bar none. He could at least read original German materials and interview witnesses in the native language.
Here is a good place to start https://hooktube.com/watch?v=mH7pfk8U45c
It was. Though it it was unusually fair for a kangaroo court, but still it wasn't much else.
The very presence of the Soviets among the judges made all the proceedings absurd, as the Soviets had a history of committing atrocities long before Nazis even came to existence.
It wasn't only Jews, there were other ethnic groups too - normally the ones who were oppressed in some way and were better educated and qualified than others. But, yes, Jews were obviously very much over-represented. Very, very much.
Similar to the way they were over-represented in Germany among the destructive "Liberal" and Communist forces.
Exactly the way the are over-represented in the USA today among the same destructive forces threatening to destroy the status quo and tear down the society as it is.
Their modus operandi remains the same - destabilize, create hatred, destroy the existing social order, create a new social order on the ruins of the society.
The trials were of men who were blackmailed and told what to say. Kikes are cancer. The holohoax was a jew scam 100% no doubts. There's nothing to debate. Its already llaid out and been proven a scam. You were already told this and each day you act as if you forget
Utterly disproven. From the door not being right, to the crematorium being in the same building as explosive gas, to the chimney not being connected, to the lack of blue stains on the walls, to the ADMITTING that there were no gas chambers by the guy running the fucking museum.
Although he could not prosecute the mass extermination of Jews — which, as he explained after the war, was legalized by order of Hitler, the supreme law-giver in the Third Reich
The London Charter written especially for the Tribunal:
Article 19: The Tribunal shall not be bound by the rules of evidence.
Artilce 20: The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof.
Trials without evidence.
Rudolph Hoess was tortured for his testimony. It was admitted to with glee in a Jewish-written anti-Nazi book called Legions of Death.
Tortured for testimony in these Nuremburg trials.
"Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse"
Clarke thrust his SERVICE STICK under the man's (Hoess') EYELIDS
Dr. Morgen was either tortured (or threatened with torture) for his words, Jewish, or paid handsomely, because he LIED.
This is the only serious answer here so I will answer only this one. I hoped there will be a lively debate with multiple people on both sides.
Anyhow, at least google "dr. konrad morgen testimony"
You find stuff like on famous denier David Irving's site that he was mostly saying the same stuff in 1971 and 1974, which probably excludes the possibility of torture, albeit not of bribery.
Interestingly, some other denier websites seem to use his stuff as an evidence of the denier side.
There is probably more depth here than you originally found.
are you sure you are mentally stable? you are treating it as a fight and not as a discussion. and not even a very good fight if you don't even read stuff available by basic googling...
There is no discussion, your DR. and his anecdotal evidence got shredded by what I put together. YOUR DR. LIED ABOUT GAS CHAMBERS AT AUSCHWITZ, which COMPLETELY de-legitimizes anything else he has to say.
It's not even a debate at this point, it's a bloodbath.
"Basic googling" no thanks, google "american inventors". My research is better than google has been able to provide in nearly a decade.
Also, what I find is validated by multiple sources and from multiple angles.
You have nothing but he "sounds like an honest man". No, kike, that's not how this, or anything works. Facts speak for themselves.
Article 19: The Tribunal shall not be bound by the rules of evidence. Artilce 20 21: The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof.
These trucks drove off but they did not drive to the concentration camp Auschwitz, but in another direction to the extermination camp Monowitz which was a few kilometres away.
Happy to answer any questions you might have. /v/shekelverse is where I store the stuff I've kinda put together on Jews and their bullshit, if you'd rather just browse.
Do you think it's jews as a biological race or is it a conglomerate of terrible people who are Jewish using the infrastructure of Jewish culture to banner around?
that was a seriously low quality effort. dismissing a witness who sounds like a honest man. I would rather believe a judge's confession under oath than some random photos some random guys posted online.
ExpertShitposter ago
My position on jewish deaths is that even if they happened, they had it coming. First they were living in a land in witch they did not belong. When asked to leave, they declared war instead. Now they live in the US, and complain that anti semetism is on the raise. Maybe the should take a fucking hint as to what could happen to them in the future.
csicskageci ago
Jews were living in Germany for something like 800 years. And what do you mean by declared war? You mean stuff like engaging in Marxist shite? Please. A group of people is not to be taken as an individual actor and have no collective responsibility. Some jews did that, some others not. What I find scary about these neo nazi views is judging a whole group as one person. Instead of individually. I hate Marxists Jews as anyone, and Marxist Gentiles too, but only individually.
ExpertShitposter ago
Should never have been allowed.
http://www.biblelife.org/judea-declares-war.jpg
You keep up your "individualism" narrative as the jew strips you down little by little.
csicskageci ago
There is no "the" jew, this is precisely that crazy collectivist thing. There are only individuals, some jewish, some not, some mixed like me. My jewish fathers was not any less individualist than my goy mother. No difference. Both did not care about their race or nation just the family. "the jew" does not exist the same way as "the english" does not exist.
ExpertShitposter ago
The jews always preach individualism in the hopes of avoiding hate due to the fact that it is always a group of jews behind any push for gay rights, nigger immigration or dirty banking practices.
It doesn't work here. Voat knows better. Voat in tribal.
csicskageci ago
1933? But that was a reaction to Hitler's moves.
ExpertShitposter ago
And then Hitler further reacted to that...... Had they actually been smart, they would have escaped Germany in time.
csicskageci ago
Because it seemed unthinkable that something like that happen in a civilized century.
Crensch ago
@Dylan_Klebold
Un. Thinkable.
Kek.
ExpertShitposter ago
It will be happening again when AfD is elected in the next decade.
Cirzatkog5 ago
The Holocaust happened. The question is what exactly did happen. Mass murders of Jews in Eastern Europe is a historical fact. It is also the fact that most of the Holocaust stories in circulation today, including the ones that the official policies were built upon, are totally shameless fakes.
A lot of disinformation was generated and used for short-term political gain by the victors, who might have shot themselves in the foot by that in the long term.
Crensch ago
No, it fucking isn't.
Cirzatkog5 ago
Stop that. I am Eastern European and I know it. It is a fact. Don't be that guy.
Crensch ago
You're full of shit, and where you reside means precisely dick.
https://voat.co/v/Shekelverse/2035040
The entirety of the holocaust was a lie. JEWS killed CHRISTIAN WHITES in the Bolshevik Genocide, THAT is true.
Cirzatkog5 ago
Jewish Bolsheviks killed millions of people in Russia and attempted to do the same in Germany and some other places.
Rise of the Nazis and their treatment of Jews was a reaction to that.
The Holocaust as we know it is a myth and propaganda to a very high degree. A lot of "documented facts" are basically fiction and pure shameless fabrication.
Which still does not mean that there was no mass murder of Jews in the Nazi occupied Eastern Europe. Because there was. There were death squads herding people to desolate places, like forests, and shooting them. It took a great psychological tool on those shooters and even Nazi officials admitted that it makes them break down and they needed to subject them to intensified indoctrination telling them why what they are doing is a good and necessary job.
Really, don't be that guy. Don't go full retard like your enemies. Stay real.
Crensch ago
It means you need proof that there was.
Asserting that once again doesn't make it true.
1) Prove it.
2) Prove it was more than the odd rogue unit that tends to show up and massacre people during wars.
More baseless accusations.
Welcome to Voat, faggot. Anecdotes aren't considered valid evidence like they are at the other place.
Cirzatkog5 ago
Neah, that's Ok.
There is lot of evidence if you are willing to see it. As for me, living here, it is a common knowledge and there are still people around who remember what happened.
Just go on. I have seen on Voat people shouting about chemtrails and reptilians in governments, so it's Ok. As you say, welcome to Voat, faggot.
Crensch ago
Example
Cirzatkog5 ago
Eh?
Artofchoke ago
@Crensch has studied this "holocaust" business thoroughly. He is capable of rational discourse. He is capable of providing concrete evidence for every claim he makes. I would suggest that you avoid ad hominem, because you're damaging the credibility of the holocaust. If you have something other than a sworn statement from one man, bring it. If it's gonna be hurr hurr retard hurr hurr teenager hurr hurr I'm from that area so I know stuff? That isn't gonna work here. Elevate your argument, Sir.
gabara ago
That's not a rebuttal, that's ad hominem.
Crensch ago
@Trigglypuff @gabara @heygeorge @Artofchoke @ExpertShitposter
I'm 14 because I provide evidence, apparently.
Artofchoke ago
I would appreciate a tag on any discourse you have of this nature, Sir. I've yet to see any evidence. The use of shocking and graphic images of war has been used as 'evidence', and it simply isn't.
Crensch ago
I don't make a claim and then hand-wave you to google to do my work for me in proving my point. I don't do that because that's not how arguments work.
Either provide your own evidence, or understand that literally nobody here on Voat will take you seriously.
Cirzatkog5 ago
Fukk off then.
Argument? What argument.
Crensch ago
All discussions with the intent of convincing another party are arguments. Now stop acting like a Jew, and sound off like you've got a pair.
E. Vi. Dence. Do you have it?
Cirzatkog5 ago
Bomber Harris alone deserved dedicated trials. Still the statue of that murderous faggot is still standing in London. Hopefully the Islamic New Europeans will smash it to rubble one day as a piece of idolatry.
GumbyTM ago
Crematoriums hate him...
Defy reality with this simple trick.
Reddit_traitor ago
can i haz the jew gold ?
Newmemba ago
From what I already understand of the Nuremberg trials they were Show Trials. So unfortunately everything about them is tainted. The best narrative of the "holocaust" is still that of David Irving, the best researcher on the topic bar none. He could at least read original German materials and interview witnesses in the native language. Here is a good place to start https://hooktube.com/watch?v=mH7pfk8U45c
Crensch ago
UPVOAT that submission, though. To the front page with it.
NEWS at 9! JEW GETS GASSED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF VOAT
Runaway-White-Slave ago
Nuremberg was a show trial, actually several show trials... @Crensch nailed it.
You've made no argument Jew-fag. But I'll upgoat your dumb ass hoping more idiots can see why bringing up Nuremberg is fucking stupid.
eongoat ago
soon as I read Nuremberg Trials, that was the end of anything of potential value.
Cirzatkog5 ago
It was. Though it it was unusually fair for a kangaroo court, but still it wasn't much else.
The very presence of the Soviets among the judges made all the proceedings absurd, as the Soviets had a history of committing atrocities long before Nazis even came to existence.
Crensch ago
"Soviets" is a funny way of spelling "Jews"
Cirzatkog5 ago
It wasn't only Jews, there were other ethnic groups too - normally the ones who were oppressed in some way and were better educated and qualified than others. But, yes, Jews were obviously very much over-represented. Very, very much.
Similar to the way they were over-represented in Germany among the destructive "Liberal" and Communist forces.
Exactly the way the are over-represented in the USA today among the same destructive forces threatening to destroy the status quo and tear down the society as it is.
Their modus operandi remains the same - destabilize, create hatred, destroy the existing social order, create a new social order on the ruins of the society.
Crensch ago
Get rid of the Jews, and those problems disappear. This is not a coincidence.
The holocaust didn't happen, but it needs to, and it will.
Cheesebooger ago
The trials were of men who were blackmailed and told what to say. Kikes are cancer. The holohoax was a jew scam 100% no doubts. There's nothing to debate. Its already llaid out and been proven a scam. You were already told this and each day you act as if you forget
Crensch ago
TO THE FRONT PAGE WITH YOU.
Your shower awaits, Jew!
csicskageci ago
Oy vey! There is an oven on the front page or what?
Crensch ago
There's a Crematorium AND an oven on the same front page! LOTS of explosions and Jews dying.
You know, kinda like where they claim those things were RIGHT NEXT TO each other in the same building.
Crensch ago
Not clicking on your faggot links, and nobody should.
Archives show that they're transcripts of the Nuremburg Trials.
A quick archive of kikepedia on this Dr. reveals:
https://www.voat.co/v/Shekelverse/2035040
Utterly disproven. From the door not being right, to the crematorium being in the same building as explosive gas, to the chimney not being connected, to the lack of blue stains on the walls, to the ADMITTING that there were no gas chambers by the guy running the fucking museum.
The London Charter written especially for the Tribunal:
Article 19: The Tribunal shall not be bound by the rules of evidence.
Artilce 20: The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof.
Trials without evidence.
Rudolph Hoess was tortured for his testimony. It was admitted to with glee in a Jewish-written anti-Nazi book called Legions of Death.
Tortured for testimony in these Nuremburg trials.
Dr. Morgen was either tortured (or threatened with torture) for his words, Jewish, or paid handsomely, because he LIED.
csicskageci ago
This is the only serious answer here so I will answer only this one. I hoped there will be a lively debate with multiple people on both sides.
Anyhow, at least google "dr. konrad morgen testimony"
You find stuff like on famous denier David Irving's site that he was mostly saying the same stuff in 1971 and 1974, which probably excludes the possibility of torture, albeit not of bribery.
Interestingly, some other denier websites seem to use his stuff as an evidence of the denier side.
There is probably more depth here than you originally found.
Crensch ago
You and your Dr. Konrad got destroyed.
There is no recovery here, you lost, utterly, and so did your lying Dr., and every kike since then.
It's not the people calling the holocaust a hoax that are the crazy ones, it's people like YOU who are disonest, JEWISH, liars.
csicskageci ago
are you sure you are mentally stable? you are treating it as a fight and not as a discussion. and not even a very good fight if you don't even read stuff available by basic googling...
Crensch ago
There is no discussion, your DR. and his anecdotal evidence got shredded by what I put together. YOUR DR. LIED ABOUT GAS CHAMBERS AT AUSCHWITZ, which COMPLETELY de-legitimizes anything else he has to say.
It's not even a debate at this point, it's a bloodbath.
"Basic googling" no thanks, google "american inventors". My research is better than google has been able to provide in nearly a decade.
Also, what I find is validated by multiple sources and from multiple angles.
You have nothing but he "sounds like an honest man". No, kike, that's not how this, or anything works. Facts speak for themselves.
Cirzatkog5 ago
Had missed that. Interesting.
Cirzatkog5 ago
A lot of pervert fetishist crap goes under this category.
BlancoCanyon ago
As I read it, he does not here say that Auschwitz was an extermination camp,
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/tgmwc/tgmwc-20/tgmwc-20-198-02.shtml
Pllatinum ago
Article 21. Not 20.
Crensch ago
Was it? Thought I checked this when I posted it originally.
Pllatinum ago
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/London_Charter_of_the_International_Military_Tribunal
Crensch ago
I stand corrected, thank you.
Pllatinum ago
No. Thank You. I knew nothing of the Articles before now. They are eerily similar to Critical Theory.
I just don't even know anymore.
Crensch ago
Happy to answer any questions you might have. /v/shekelverse is where I store the stuff I've kinda put together on Jews and their bullshit, if you'd rather just browse.
Pllatinum ago
Do you think it's jews as a biological race or is it a conglomerate of terrible people who are Jewish using the infrastructure of Jewish culture to banner around?
Crensch ago
It's genetic.
csicskageci ago
that was a seriously low quality effort. dismissing a witness who sounds like a honest man. I would rather believe a judge's confession under oath than some random photos some random guys posted online.
xenoPsychologist ago
all the hard evidence out there and you are all like "lol this guys opinion totally negates all that, lol."
Cheesebooger ago
http://gbppr.dyndns.org/~gbpprorg/obama/incogman/1284786202987.jpg
Crensch ago
Sounds. Like. A. Honest. Man.
@Cheesebooger @Runaway-White-Slave @Artofchoke @Trigglypuff @gabara
Kek.
Let's ask the HOLOCAUST MUSEUM THEN!
https://imgoat.com/uploads/f61408e3af/55998.png
http://archive.is/N8f7L Holohoax museum
http://archive.is/oQkrF Image info
Oh, darn, and look!
https://imgoat.com/uploads/2b32a1f754/56011.png
Thanks @Geshtapo for the first 3 above links.
Cheesebooger ago
@csicskageci will be back tomorrow with no recollection of todays beat-down and he will ask the same questions as if nothing happened
Crensch ago
@Artofchoke
Artofchoke ago
@Crensch Hey, this is interesting, what do you think?
Crensch ago
Hang on to your fucking hat, miss.
Artofchoke ago
Goddamn, Sir! This needs to be sticked!
HE LOOKED LIKE AN HONEST MAN! lmao