And, by all means, I'm not complacent. But it is my understanding that this is the result of intellectual property rights, which I'm against.
I think the only other legal option is to license all data under the Creative Commons, which would mean that all data shared on their Network would be shared ad naseum. There's no way you can actually use a chat app and retain ownership of the data you give them.
Any data, text, graphics, photographs and their selection and arrangement, and any other materials uploaded to the Service by you is “Your Data.” You represent and warrant that Your Data is original to you and that you exclusively own the rights to such content, including the right to grant all of the rights and licenses in these Terms without the Company incurring any third party obligations or liability arising out of its exercise of such rights and licenses. All of Your Data is your sole responsibility and the Company is not responsible for any material that you upload, post, or otherwise make available.
By uploading, distributing, transmitting or otherwise using Your Data with the Services, you grant to us a nonexclusive, transferable, royalty-free, sublicensable, and worldwide license to use Your Data, subject to the Company’s Privacy Policy.
what happened is the general intelligence and computer savvy of pc users has plummeted. i used to code auto's for the warez scene back in the 90's/early 2000's for race sites. those were the days..... /me slaps Lankanka with a trout
its been awhile haha. i used to have a response script for the trout slap too. i prob still have it layin around somewhere. used to piss off the ops with all the spam itd generate :P
my prime days werent in high school. then wife and kids happened and i just ran out of time and retired. i guess it was a good thing though.. it was at the point where FBI co-lo raids had become almost weekly.
By uploading, distributing, transmitting or otherwise using Your Data with the Services, you grant to us a nonexclusive, transferable, royalty-free, sublicensable, and worldwide license to use Your Data, subject to the Company’s Privacy Policy.
They HAVE to use your data to make it possible for you to use their services and communicate with other people.
'Your data' in this context doesn't mean 'the entire content of your harddrive'. It just means that anything you send through Discord, probably your IP & general info you put on your account will be used.
That's literally in every ToS & EULA for applications like this ever.
Don't get me wrong, plenty of companies use data gathered from users/customers for profit. Many companies actively work with intelligence agencies.
Discord hasn't done any of that as far as I'm aware.
Oh. Well mostly due to what @thantik already said. As soon as you send anything through discord - a message, gay porn, a picture, etc. - they need to be allowed to show that something to other users.
Even in a private chat they need to be allowed to show the recepient of your PM that message.
It would destroy the whole purpose of the application if they can't use 'your data'.
And again, they're not accessing your hard drive or try to steal your personal information like OP claims.
This stuff is common in every program that lets you interact with other people (or use a service) in any way.
NinjaPoolboy ago
I just fill the #nsfw channels with gay porn... ...like, GHHHHHHHAAAYY porn.
mamwad ago
Have any citations?
And, by all means, I'm not complacent. But it is my understanding that this is the result of intellectual property rights, which I'm against.
I think the only other legal option is to license all data under the Creative Commons, which would mean that all data shared on their Network would be shared ad naseum. There's no way you can actually use a chat app and retain ownership of the data you give them.
tibstibs ago
I agree. Unfortunately, I've had very little success convincing my meatspace friends to use anything other than Discord.
0fsgivin ago
Any data, text, graphics, photographs and their selection and arrangement, and any other materials uploaded to the Service by you is “Your Data.” You represent and warrant that Your Data is original to you and that you exclusively own the rights to such content, including the right to grant all of the rights and licenses in these Terms without the Company incurring any third party obligations or liability arising out of its exercise of such rights and licenses. All of Your Data is your sole responsibility and the Company is not responsible for any material that you upload, post, or otherwise make available.
By uploading, distributing, transmitting or otherwise using Your Data with the Services, you grant to us a nonexclusive, transferable, royalty-free, sublicensable, and worldwide license to use Your Data, subject to the Company’s Privacy Policy.
DestroyerOfSaturn ago
I'm still stealing copyrighted stuff from mirc. Love that place!
lili3 ago
Does Voat have an IRC channel?
dingomeat ago
Do you have the lawyers to back that up?
PassingShip ago
Does IRC do raid capable voice comms?
TH3_1D10T ago
Well, I'm still gonna use it.
jsac ago
you can lead a horse to water............
TH3_1D10T ago
And you're still a paranoid schizophrenic.
jsac ago
Id say you are a fucking idiot if you arent aware of the dangers of giving your data to 3rd parties after the past few years ;)
TH3_1D10T ago
Well, considering I just give the information that is necessary, I really don't care.
dingomeat ago
his username is literally "the_idiot"
TH3_1D10T ago
Hey, he can't read well, leave the retard be.
jsac ago
In l337 too.
jsac ago
what happened is the general intelligence and computer savvy of pc users has plummeted. i used to code auto's for the warez scene back in the 90's/early 2000's for race sites. those were the days..... /me slaps Lankanka with a trout
go1dfish ago
large trout you mean.
jsac ago
its been awhile haha. i used to have a response script for the trout slap too. i prob still have it layin around somewhere. used to piss off the ops with all the spam itd generate :P
Precipitate ago
I used to waste so much time mIRC scripting in high school. I think I'd just be sad if I ever looked at the vanilla mIRC client today.
jsac ago
my prime days werent in high school. then wife and kids happened and i just ran out of time and retired. i guess it was a good thing though.. it was at the point where FBI co-lo raids had become almost weekly.
Precipitate ago
Luckily I never had any FBI problems. DEA sniffing lead to some major life changes though. It was for the best though.
jsac ago
the fact that most say that (unsubstantiated), doesnt negate the FACTS. im sure there is something out there that doesnt data rape you.
dingomeat ago
IRC
Zesty ago
So they have the right to distribute all of the OC horse porn that highlypaidorgypro links royalty free? This is bad for business.
jsac ago
Gypsinessity ago
What they're saying is that they need all these rights to "Your Data" so the discord service can send it to whoever you're chatting to.
mamwad ago
That's pretty much legally necessary for any chat app.
Apeabel ago
Very much this.
They HAVE to use your data to make it possible for you to use their services and communicate with other people.
'Your data' in this context doesn't mean 'the entire content of your harddrive'. It just means that anything you send through Discord, probably your IP & general info you put on your account will be used. That's literally in every ToS & EULA for applications like this ever.
Don't get me wrong, plenty of companies use data gathered from users/customers for profit. Many companies actively work with intelligence agencies.
Discord hasn't done any of that as far as I'm aware.
NinjaPoolboy ago
why dose it have to be nonexclusive and transferable?
ShinyVoater ago
Nonexclusive just means you can post it anywhere. The whole paragraph's exactly what you'd find in any other EULA.
Apeabel ago
You mean the data they gather?
NinjaPoolboy ago
No, the license I grant them. Not the data.
Apeabel ago
Oh. Well mostly due to what @thantik already said. As soon as you send anything through discord - a message, gay porn, a picture, etc. - they need to be allowed to show that something to other users.
Even in a private chat they need to be allowed to show the recepient of your PM that message.
It would destroy the whole purpose of the application if they can't use 'your data'.
And again, they're not accessing your hard drive or try to steal your personal information like OP claims. This stuff is common in every program that lets you interact with other people (or use a service) in any way.
PassingShip ago
Now name a data transmission service that doesn't say that.
Literally every single one does.
NinjaPoolboy ago
jenny from da block?
collegetoker ago
Freenode?
PassingShip ago
I stand corrected.