UPDATE: Voat Admin Conspiracy! Putt Returns? Possible Gag Order / Defcon 3 Edition (whatever)

submitted ago by SaneGoatiSwear

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refer to this post for all the info and links: original megathread link

THINGS WE KNOW

(updated and condensed)

  1. the admins @atko and @puttitout and the slimg devs (@technician90 and @crispykat) dissapeared a little over a month ago.

  2. atko (sort-of) returned a little less than two weeks ago (as did technician90), and

  3. atko has been asked repeatedly what's going on in all venues, from pms to front page posts to comment pings where puttitout is, yet

  4. atko has said exactly nothing regarding puttitout's whereabouts. also, there's been no response to various requests for greater transparency, nor really any dev-related discussion from the admins since their dissapearance. generally, there has been a great silence.

  5. puttitout is still missing, - there is only heresay - HOWEVER

  6. he upvoated ONE submission earlier today, and there has been no proven other communication with him. sadly i never screencapped his page before the voat, so at best there's activity, otherwise it's still NUTHIN outta putt :(

-- in any case, we are very concerned this is a purposeful silence,

leading us to believe there IS A CHANCE that there has been a gag order placed on our admins, (as the current warrant canary lacks information on the half-dozen other types of gag orders, there's a chance a non fisa/NS letter gag has been placed, and, alas, even with a fully formed deadmanswitched canary, warrant canaries aren't legally set in stone yet)

thus
we directly ask @atko and @puttitout: what in goat's teeth is going on? what's going on regarding voat finances, employees, this "transparency," the state of and future of voat, the canary being full of holes - and we want timestamps on pictures of you two goats! - but most importantly, what's goin' on with your absence and your silence?! is this just what you consider "hands-off"?

until they respond, defcon 3 goats! be ready to go, we're at heightened awareness:

"hey @puttitout and @atko what's going on?!" "why won't you answer, @atko and @puttitout?" "are you in mitch hedburg's trunk rite now, search party of voat? @atko and @puttitout"

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FPSFairy ago

there's a chance a non fisa/NS letter gag has been placed

For those of us who don't know about these types of "legal" things, can you elaborate what this means/might be?

SaneGoatiSwear ago

sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gag_order#United_States

for one quick example, gag orders can be part of investigations.. they aren't limited to FISA nor NS letters..

"In the United States, a court can order parties to a case not to comment on it but has no authority to stop unrelated reporters from reporting on a case. "

"18 U.S.C. § 2705(b) (the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 / Stored Communications Act) also provides for gag orders which direct the recipient of a 18 U.S.C. § 2703(d) order to refrain from disclosing the existence of the order or the investigation."

"18 U.S.C. § 3123(d)(2) (the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986) also provides for gag orders which direct the recipient of a pen register or trap and trace device order not to disclose the existence of the pen/trap or the investigation."

and the rest through the link :)

so, gags happen for all sorts of reasons,

but they all do one thing: gag ya!

so when a place like voat has admins that go dead silent on any important subjects may well be party to or part of an investigation, even though they may not have received a NS letter or have gotten a FISA request ( i think those are the technical terms :), it's quite suspicious.

i'd rather not speculate haha as was done in the v/conspiracy original post. now i just want a friendly hi from the admins explainin' and for all this to be one big laugh and no big deal. 8D