Can anyone tell me the timeline of dev changes since October 2016 re: what subverse settings impact whether submissions show on v/all? (voatdev)

submitted ago by Vindicator

I've got a troll on v/pizzagate constantly attacking the mod team claiming we rigged our moderation subverse so as to prevent downvoting by users. I'd like to understand the timeline, as this was before my time. It was apparently set to 10 CCP required to downvote when first created. The subverse is used for posts about rule changes, complaints about mods and other meta topics. Here's an example of one of his claims: https://archive.fo/fvNlj and a more recent one https://archive.fo/OcAjs.

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PeaceSeeker ago

Neither of your archive links will load for me, but the second one loaded enough for me to copy the original Voat link and read it.

/u/MrPim is correct that setting a "minimum CCP to downvote" value in the settings will remove said subverse from /v/all; so will setting the subverse to private.

Setting a minimum CCP to downvote value will also, of course, make it so you need that much CCP in that subverse to downvote anything in that subverse. In the second comment the user claims that you set it up so only mods can downvote. If only mods comment and earn upvotes in that subverse, then it is true that only they could downvote, because only they would have enough CCP in that subverse to downvote. But nothing is stopping that user from commenting in that subverse, earning upvotes, and then being able to downvote.

Does that help?

Vindicator ago

Maybe. I was wondering if the original settings for the subverse, around November 2016 (as I understood it, so as to prevent pizzagate drama from infecting the front page of Voat), had a different effect when they were made than they did at the time he started bitching about it.

Sorry the archives wouldn't load. Here are the original complaint comment links:

His claim (in the first link) is specifically that once any limit was set, the sub started not counting upvotes for users who came after the limit was set:

This sub is also rigged. See that 10 CPP down vote limit in the sidebar? As long as that limit is in place you and I will NEVER gain those points so that we can down vote because the system will not add them with that limit in place. I can up vote you 50 times and you still won't get those ten points because the system won't add those points. Only people that had those 10 points before the limit was activated can down vote. So they sit in here and down vote us knowing that we will never be able to down vote no matter how many up votes we get. Pretty sneaky huh?

I have almost 30 up votes in this one thread. My point score in the sidebar says

Minimum CCP required to downvote in this sub: 10

Your CCP for this sub: 0

So only @crensch and @Millennial_Falcon, and the people that already had those ten points before the limit got set are the people down voting us. roflmao....

Cynabuns ago

I was wondering if the original settings for the subverse, around November 2016 (as I understood it, so as to prevent pizzagate drama from infecting the front page of Voat), had a different effect when they were made than they did at the time he started bitching about it.

Yes, they would have had a very different impact... big changes were made with subs and CCP just about one year ago now, https://voat.co/v/announcements/1639027

Vindicator ago

Thank you!