I was "blacklisted" from CTH for posting this in July. (Over the target or just too blasphemous?) I posted this on Reddit/Great Awakening and that sub was shut down. I've added a few points and elaborated. In no particular order...
Points Consistent With The Theory That Mueller Is NOT Targeting Trump (Contrary to what is widely ASSUMED):
Trump tweets vs Mueller: Would you antagonize someone investigating you? Would your lawyers allow it? Would you exacerbate any scrutiny of your family?
Trump has never appeared genuinely concerned about the Mueller investigation. He is pursuing a comprehensive and historic agenda, while discounting any possibility of impeachment or criminal culpability. He is either at risk, yet blind to the possibilities. Or he is innocent, and in complete control.
Flynn sentencing delays (3X). Charges will be dropped. His guilty plea likely was part of the sting.
Manafort charges in both trials unrelated to collusion or Trump.
Cohen investigation farmed out and unrelated to collusion or Trump.
Manafort and Cohen raids of both only ASSUMED to be anti-Trump. No Trump connection established to either. Manafort's cooperation may implicate Podesta and others.
Mueller(via spokesperson) warns of inaccurate press accounts(2X) Advises media not to repeat "reports" without independent sourcing. Advice they promptly ignore.
Rosenstein publicly states that Trump is not a target(2X). Media and pundits over analyze and ASSUME this as meaning "not yet". They cite the rapid potential transition from subject to target. They ASSUME Mueller is setting a perjury trap.
No legit or illegit Trump-Russia collusion evidence presented to date. Despite Dossier claims that Trump is a Russian asset. ??? For an investigation supposedly "getting closer to Trump", glacial progress.
Carter Page never charged despite Dossier claims that he is a Russian spy. ??? A politically motivated investigation would almost certainly have to target him. Surveillance on him was the major predicate of the corrupt FBI/DOJ investigation. Plus he is an easy mark for a "lying" charge. A corrupt SC investigation would almost certainly attempt to legitimize the FISA warrant by making up some specious Carter Page wrongdoing.
Podesta, like Manafort, referred for criminal investigation. Shows, evenhandedness, albeit quietly. So as not to disturb the desired misdirection narrative about Mueller's intent.
Mueller-Trump lawyer(s) "negotiations" are taking forever. Do they even occur? Possibly another part of the misdirection concerning Mueller's intent.
Fake News stresses Trump is THE target(so opposite is almost certain)
False stories have been planted to flush out leakers(James Wolfe). Microcosms of the larger investigative sting and exhibits the same misdirection strategy.
Mueller-Trump meeting 2017, ostensibly about FBI Director position, despite ineligibility? Was Mueller offered a deal or immunity for past transgressions, in exchange for carrying out a charade?
Trump appointed Sessions. Sessions appointed Rosenstein. Sessions is aggressively pursuing Trump's agenda against drugs, gangs, fraud, corruption, illegal immigration, human trafficking, pedophiles... But blew it on this critical appointment of Rosenstein??? Plus Session's recusal may have been technically unnecessary, but strategically shrewd. Why was Sessions nicknamed "The Silent Assassin" as a prosecutor?
Conspiracy to frame Trump involving FBI DOJ DNC CIA is 180° contrary to any Trump collusion possibility. Why frame someone for a crime there is sufficient evidence for? Inference: There is no Trump collusion to investigate.
Strzok promptly/properly removed from Mueller's Special Counsel after texts surface. Page left prior to Strzok.(And likely produced their texts to IG)
Papadopoulos: Only 1 charge for "lying". 14 day symbolic sentence. Necessary message: Don't lie to the FBI.
13 and 12 Russians indicted for meddling. No Americans involved. Facilitates misdirection for media consumption.
Rosenstein disputes Jordan's characterization of 4th FISA warrant as being to "surveil the Trump Campaign". Renewed for some other purpose? Surveillance focused on the ABC agency co-conspirators?
No Mueller leaking(The Trey Gowdy principle vis a vis Schiff). We'd have known of anything substantive if the intent was to damage Trump. A crooked investigation(think Comey, McCabe, Strzok), would be leaking to accomplish agenda via the media.
Trump's references to "Witch Hunt" may refer to Clinton.
Unlike Crossfire Hurricane, the Mueller investigation is under a worldwide congressional, public, legal, and media microscope. Hard to operate unlawfully under those conditions.
Mueller appears to be wrapping up. No significant new developments or direction. Timing corresponds with a big Declassification, IG FISA/election report, and/or Weiner laptop reveal.
What better way to combat the complicit/corrupt media, than letting them run with a false narrative of their own assumption/creation/propagation?
All the while....the corrupt conspirators' communications, meetings, locations... have been surveiled. Investigations are ongoing and sealed indictments are building.
Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Holder, Obama etc...cannot contain themselves. They seem obligated to publicly lash out at Trump. This indicates that they know Mueller does not offer an exoneration/escape route. Their only card left is to establish their legal defense(victims of political targeting).
If Mueller was going to create false charges against Trump, he likely would have done so before the midterms, to possibly enable a Dem House takeover.
Q has stated that Mueller's function is to cloud Trump's presidency as long as possible, esp for the midterms(paraphrase). We are supposed to ASSUME so. However, if Mueller's investigation is part of a sting, in part to provide media distraction while Horowitz/Huber build cases, then Q would necessarily mislead any followers(black hats) as to the true purpose. Or at least be vague. Q has done a little of both regarding Mueller.
Addendum: Papadopoulos is considering retracting his guilty plea. Rubber bullet as well?(like Flynn)
I've been testing this theory against any new info since July. Nothing thus far has logically refuted it as a possibility. That doesn't prove it, but it's a distinct possibility. A very likely one I think. Approaching certainty the longer the SC investigation drags on. This is contrary to what most might ASSUME. Collusion either happened or it didn't. A longer investigation can't uncover what isn't there. The longer the duration, the more consistent with the SC being part of a sting.
If so, this could mean certain conservative media like Fox, CTH, Gateway Pundit....have been instructed to "sell" the Mueller, Rosenstein, and Sessions are "useless, corrupt or even Deep State" narrative. Individually or in combination.
I'm not buying Sessions as anything but an extreme Patriot. He is the lynch pin of this theory.
Trump touted Session's superior intelligence during his acceptance speech. I infer that every move Sessions makes, including Rosenstein's appointment, is shrewdly calculated.
To dispel the growing criticism of Sessions(and to antagonize the anti-Trumpers), I wrote the lyrics to "Trust The Plan" in April. I'll post it separately.
As President Trump would say, "We'll see what happens."
Truther65 ago
I have said from the beginning that Mueller is NOT working against Trump. Q said he is working to save himself. Which means 'not working to nail Trump'. He is playing his role to the hilt to save his own ass.
Tekhelet17 ago
So many interesting facts. Sessions was my senator in Alabama, in fact, I worked for him on several campaigns, and that's the one thing I have not been able to wrap my mind around was Sessions' actions the last few years. It is NOT like him. It's not how he works. And that's been nagging me. There must be more to the story there than is being told. Your theory could make sense in this case.
KarlKastner ago
Great insight. Thanks. Sessions is an extreme patriot in my estimation.
CarpenterforChrist ago
Man, great read. You really are blessed with seriously logical thinking. Way to connect a lot of dots most people can't or won't. Thank you fellow goat.
KarlKastner ago
Thanks. There has been several more consistent developments. Many actually. I need to update it.
Muellers appt by Rosy shifting the investigative control AWAY from McCabe. White hat move.
Trump saying a lot of people will be surprised at Mueller results.(paraphrase)
Mueller lawyers clarifying to Judge Sullivan that they don't think Flynn committed treason. Counter to mission if they are targeting Trump.
Any public appearances by Mueller since appointment? How do we even know he is involved? His persona may just be used to sell the ruse. If so, it has worked completely.
Karmytrumpateer ago
I agree with a lot of the things you posted. I also agree that Sessions played a role for a reason we don't know about yet. This is a very interesting time in history and watching things play out is frustrating at times but I trust in Trump and just hold on.
KarlKastner ago
Thanks. I'm completely confident in Trump, Sessions, Q, The Plan.
I'm positive about Mueller theory now. Just a matter of time....
scoripowarrior ago
This sure sounds pretty convincing. I suspect that CTH may have been a bit butthurt because of the implication they were instructed to "sell" the Sessions/Mueller/Rosenstein narrative. I like how you think!
KarlKastner ago
I added that after I was blacklisted. Sundance is still firmly in the Mueller/Rosenstein=bad camp. I just checked his latest takes. He is assuming several things. And that makes for impossible deduction.
Greenbaywithenvy ago
Why would Mueller allow President Trump to enact Executive orders and get two SC justices on the bench and all of the other great stuff he's accomplishing if he was guilty? They would have gotten him out of office immediately if PDJT was guilty.
KarlKastner ago
Exactly. Whatever they had, real or contrived would have been best played in 2017, when Trump=traitor sentiment was at its peak. All your facts of occurrence are consistent with the theory.
KarlKastner ago
Yes. One of many points consistent with the theory. If Mueller is an assassin to remove Trump, he better hurry. Half the term is over.
94Slacker ago
Very well written. I'm in total agreement. WWG1WGA
TrumpProphecy1 ago
DISINFORMATION NECESSARY.
We will never know what / when things are going to happen till After the fact.
The enemy can follow this board FAR better than us, and hes expending All his ammo on false date set ups and false targets. Desperate people do desperate things with all.these head games and That's when the Rats come Out of the woodwork.
Dont Ever get mad or frustrated by Q !!!
We are useful idiot Patriots, GLADLY!
KarlKastner ago
Yes, disinformation necessary. I think fake news, fed to the Fake News MSM, is particularly delicious.
62maka ago
to me mueller has always been hard to know where he stands in this plot I like your thinking
ArtistiqueJewelry ago
I always felt the White Hats and Trump sat Mueller down and had a "coming to Jesus moment!"
Sessions has Always been doing Exactly what he is supposed to do, in my opinion. Create perceived tension between he and Trump and make it look like he is not targeting precisely who he Is targeting.
How do you catch a rat? Make it feel comfortable, cause it to let it's guard down. Entice it into believing it will be able to continue it's reign of selfish consumption, predatory practices, havoc and destruction.
Yes, we Will indeed see what happens. For the time being, we will end up continuing to ward off extreme impatience and growing frustration. That's just those who do Not fully trust the plan And don't completely understand just how Vast, Deep and intertwined these evil people are.
KarlKastner ago
Agreed Agreed Agreed Agreed
GolfinGirl ago
This is brilliant! So many good points. Awesome detail! Great assumptions!! WWG1WGA!
KarlKastner ago
Thanks. Maybe because I don't golf.
Just teasing! MAGA
DTrumplican ago
Sessions has been very busy. True patriot. Q thanked him for his service and sacrifice. What sacrifice? Being spoken of badly by patriots as though he was useless. He is a true patriot and a hero.
Mueller, Rosenstein. I have these 2 together because I think the same thing about both. White hats. This Trump Revolution did not happen overnight. This has been in the works for years. I think RM RR were undercover for a long damn time. White hats. I will be very surprised if I'm wrong.
Just my humble opinion.
GolfinGirl ago
Yes, Sessions took the rubber bullet for his boss!
KarlKastner ago
I completely agree the Sessions is a true Patriot.
I had not thought of the possibility that Mueller and Rosenstein may have been undercover white hats for years. They each have so many conflicts of interest. That warrants additional scrutiny. But if true, it would definitively confirm my contention that Trump is not targeted. And it would add new and greater perspective about other things. And raise more questions.
For one, the nature of any reported Manafort cooperation. Was he a willing plant in Trump's campaign? If so, who directed him? Who is he still protecting or providing testimony against? Was he money laundering for past administrations? Could he be a white hat and part the larger sting?
dordiewithq ago
Knowing his past corruption, it hurts to think Mueller is White Hat.
Q..... NO DEALS!!!!
GolfinGirl ago
I know, even if he is cooperating, I hope he gets his due (Uranium One?)
Karmytrumpateer ago
Perhaps he got some sort of alternative sentence instead of being shot for treason.
VisualAid ago
meanwhile everyoneelse is outed, or has outed themselves, shown their cards. From msm operatives, to intel operatives, hollywood operatives, foreign players, congress critters, tech giants, non profits, ngo. Trump did not and does not seem stressed for a guy supposedly under a colluding with the enemy scenario investigation.
TheBridge422 ago
I agree with you 100% I have been saying almost the exact samething but not in great detail as you. Do I believe Muller and RR have dirty hands? Sure do but where those dirty hands forced under the deep state? Now they have a chance to make a right out of wrong. Time will tell. I am loving watching the evil crumble and the best part they are doing it to themselves. "I didn't steal the cookie from the cookie jar" as they get caught with there hands in the cookie jar. Go Potus, Go Q and God Bless all you patriots.
Atrugiel ago
As soon as Mike Rogers got hold of the NSA database Mueller had to know his goose was cooked. That's when certain "gentlemen's agreements" were undertaken among people from all sides who were certainly not gentlemen.
Baby_Kaboomer ago
A thoroughly thought out and well-presented interpretation of the plan. Yes, we'll see what happens. But a Mueller report damning to deep state criminals (sort of a Comey exoneration in reverse), combined with a scathing IG report and the final sledgehammer blow of Declas will justify activating the Silent Assassin to begin unsealing indictments/arrests. The newly-elected Republican congress will also then become more fully involved. And all the while, attention will be off POTUS, whose fingerprints are nowhere to be found on this series of events. The left will be stunned and confused with no solid ground to stand on. Let's hope and pray.
GolfinGirl ago
Newly elected Republican Congress? Won Senate not House, guess we will get it back after election fraud outing before 12/21. Then take back House after Declas and those elected in House are indicted. Is this what you mean. I’m confused.
Paladin_Diver ago
Outstanding work Karl.
"If Mueller was going to create false charges against Trump, he likely would have done so before the midterms, to possibly enable a Dem House takeover."
This one provides the best anecdotal evidence to your point. In an election that is life or death for the Dems, there is no way they'd let any possible charges be delayed past Nov. 6.
Incty ago
I was also thinking maybe they’re not releasing results of the investigation until after the elections because the left would vote in large numbers just to get revenge for Trump being vindicated? Just a thought.
Chance45 ago
Nice post crumbs put together well. Although Sundance and Co., is an Anon there's certain places he won't go such as Q related info the other was birther related info. I know birthers in the past that were blacklisted from CTH. High probability conservative name sites etc... listed above pushing a control narrative for the white hats. Something I've noticed is the uptick in new shills/trolls bashing Trump and everyone in his Admin incl name calling but their not banned. Sundance and Co., didn't even cover the #WalkAway Rally which was huge in my opinion very odd. I'm still going to follow CTH but it's unfortunate they ban good people with lots to bring to the table. Then you identify shills polluting the boards and never banned.... make you wonder what the hell is going on
KarlKastner ago
Thanks for that perspective. I was really disappointed to be banned from CTH. I had learned most of what I know about Spygate from Sundance. CTH was my preferred source/site.
Karmytrumpateer ago
I too like CTH and think Sundance has been very informative and find it disappointing that having an alternative theory is the condition for being banned. Not very conservative in my opinion. If your ego is more important than the truth getting out to the masses you've taken a step to the dark side.
KarlKastner ago
I don't go back there much. I wish my Mueller theory post from July was still there. But I have the emails from the moderator telling me Sundance himself "blacklisted" me. No one else was even considering the possibility back then. Then when the Great Awakening subreddit was taken down, my Mueller theory posted there went with it. August or September. Coincidence? Then I posted it here in October.
Maximus_Dinduicus ago
This looks like a job for "tl;dr"
TheJester77 ago
At this point in the game, Q's post 1008 lines explains it all.
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/893472.html#893904
It was not supposed to be revealed POTUS is not under criminal investigation _ NOT YET. Traitor. Massive intel sweep. Manafort was a plant. Trace background. Open source. Who was arrested? Non US. Trace background. Open source. Carter Page was a plant. Trace background. Open source. Why is Mueller going after 'inside plants'? Flynn is safe. Define 'witness'. Can a 'witness' hold a position of power/influence while ongoing? Russia Russia Russia? Real or fake? Fake? JA? Seth Rich? MS_13 187 [2] -24 -Distance? MS[13][13=M]MSM - The 'Wheel' No investigation into WL receipt of information? No pull down of NSA metadata trace/C to WL? No pull down of NSA metadata period? Nothing transferred across web? Direct-to-Direct bypass dump? No 'direct' investigation into DNC computer/software? No 'direct' investigation into CS? FBI/SC/DOJ/FED G simply TRUST CS's report on data breach? HUSSEIN block? HUSSEIN control? HUSSEIN "STATE SECRETS" WH NAT SEC ARTICLES 1-9 - BURIED? Awan attached? AMERICA FOR SALE. Cheatin' Obama. Trust the plan. APRIL SHOWERS. Q
KarlKastner ago
Q and company, along w Horowitz/Huber, are at least a year ahead of any crumbs, docs, texts, testimony... that they deem fit to reveal, drop, release... for our consumption. I'm pretty sure I didn't compromise their operation from my armchair.
KarlKastner ago
Trust The Plan (Sung to Dixie's Land)
As if asleep in the land of cotton, Jeff Sess-ions has been forgotten; Don't dismay! The delay! It's okay, Trust The Plan!
In DC Land where he was sworn in, Most assume his job ignorin, Don't dismay! The delay! It's okay, Trust The Plan!
For his strat-e-gy in DC! In Play! In Play! Won't show his hand, he's got a plan, for those corr-upt in DC! Drain away! Away! Drain away the swamp in DC! Put away! Away! Put away the crooks in DC!
Like a frightened possum at the sign of danger; Laying low, des-pite public anger! Don't dismay! The delay! It's okay, Trust The Plan!
His name down south was si-lent assassin, Now it seems there's nothin happenin? Don't dismay! The delay! It's okay, Trust the plan!
For his strat-e-gy in DC! In Play! In Play! Won't show his hand, he's got a plan, for those corr-upt in DC! Drain away! Away! Drain away the swamp in DC! Put away! Away! Put away the crooks in DC!
Act-in like he's got alzheimers Don't dis-miss, this sly old timer! Don't dismay! The delay! It's okay, Trust the plan!
The Keebler Elf a nap been fakin; He'll soon reveal what he's been bakin! Don't dismay! The delay! It's okay, Trust the plan!
For his strat-e-gy in DC! In Play! In Play! Won't show his hand, he's got a plan, for those corr-upt in DC! Drain away! Away! Drain away the swamp in DC! Put away! Away! Put away the crooks in DC!
His re-cusal belies his actions What's be-hind all those redactions?! Don't dismay! The delay! It's okay, Trust the plan!
So calm your anquish, hush your sorrow, Patience is re-paid tomorrow! Don't dismay! The delay! It's okay, Trust the plan!
For his strat-e-gy in DC! In Play! In Play! Won't show his hand, he's got a plan, for those corr-upt in DC! Drain away! Away! Drain away the swamp in DC! Put away! Away! Put away the crooks in DC!
Mueller's sham pro-vides deflection, Soon comes Session's re-surrection! Don't dismay! The delay! It's okay, Trust the plan!
Sealed indictments in a pile, Smilin like a croco-dile! Don't dismay! The delay! It's okay, Trust the plan!
For his strat-e-gy in DC! In Play! In Play! Won't show his hand, he's got a plan, for those corr-upt in DC! Drain away! Away! Drain away the swamp in DC! Put away! Away! Put away the crooks in DC!
Stefanovich973 ago
Clever and catchy. Especially liked (to The Land of Dixie):
Thanks for sharing.
KarlKastner ago
Hey, thanks Patriot! But what about the theory?