Fuck benjamin netenfuckingfaggotyou. Thats one of the worst people on the planet. If him and dick cheney met the fucking world might explode from to much evil in one room.
So in a world of just a relative handful of powerful people, who has power and what defines it at that point? Those who have the most automated machines? Are you picturing a world of 50 or so people who sit on their thrones surrounded by robots, in a cold war with each other mediated by the mutually assured destruction due to each other's drones?
What sense is there to rule in an empty castle in an empty countryside. The will to power is the only motivator that got them there to begin with. You really think it is about wealth? What good is wealth without the non-wealthy?
What drama would go on in the world without other things or people to conquer. There would be no room left to create inequity, which is the spice of life. A person that rich would be poor indeed.
That kind of situation would collapse faster than a rock and roll super group.
Fake retard news is fake retard news. You fucking low IQ niggers literally were mad at Mattis for his support for Israel then immediately assume he would harm Israel? You are fucking low as fuck IQ.
Misleading title is misleading! And if course none of the people who commented here actually read beyond the title. Yet they all claim to be in the side of "reason" and "critical thinking"...
He didn't block the sale of F16s to Israel. He blocked Israel from selling their old F16s to Croatia.
we don’t think it is possible to get an agreement that will reconcile the U.S. conditions and the Croatian demands
The US blocked a deal where
Israel was making moves to modify [12 F16s] to better specifications before delivering the weapons to Croatia.
Mattis [...] accused Tel Aviv of attempting to sell the jets with advanced electronic systems that are superior to U.S.-made jets. Washington has instructed Israel to only sell the planes in their original condition.
The problem is Croatia wants things in the planes that the US doesn't want them to have.
Also, isn't it a bit... concerning that Israel upgraded F16 that they sell to 3rd parties are considered Superior to US made planes??
If that's what they are selling, what do they keep for themselves??
Why should the Israelis get to make even more money by selling gear that we fucking gave them? Especially right after we just gave those assholes $38 billion as a Hanukkah gift? I get that Jews are gonna jew, but goddamn.
That's not the reason. That might be why you want the deal blocked, but not why it was actually blocked. The article explicitly stated why it was blocked.
It was blocked because the US doesn't want Croatia to have Superior war planes. The US doesn't mind if Israel sells the planes as-is.
Yet they all claim to be in the side of "reason" and "critical thinking"...
There are a lot of Dunning-Kruger affected people on Voat. Critical thinking to them means being critical of anyone thinking differently then their in-group bias.
Mattis, according to the report, promptly rejected the request from Netanyahu and accused Tel Aviv of attempting to sell the jets with advanced electronic systems that are superior to U.S.-made jets. Washington has instructed Israel to only sell the planes in their original condition.
Crazy. People have a fundamental "right to repair" and to upgrade their stuff, and to sell it.
The US gave those jets away at taxpayer expense in the form of foreign aid to Israel, which is required to be spent on defense (on American-made items). Regardless of the excuse Mattis allegedly provided, why should the US approve a deal like that? That's unfair competition - we're paying twice (giving away a jet to Israel, then losing a sale because they resell the jet).
They turn them into drones.
If you don't believe me, go find the story where they had an F16 shot down and the pilot was miraculously safe in an Israeli Hospital within a few hours.
Massive uptick of drone and AI warfare, using commerical aircraft as cover.
Don’t know. Helo flying low? Not saying Israelis aren’t being sneaky sneks, I mean that’s a given with Israel, just that the time span to “rescue” is plausible given how small the countries are.
Every towelhead is just looking to put holes in titanium buckets. And they have many opportunities to take pot-shots with relatively unstumpable MANPADS for anything that low.
It’s more difficult than that even with a man pad especially if your tree top level but that’s besides the point. My comment was only that the time frame is plausible not that Israel telling the truth
Based on the psychology of that Nation, the motto of their armed forces, the relatively low size of their population - they are pushing the boundaries of drone warfare.
If you want to understand the mindset of the Israeli air force, look at how they dominated in the 6-day war. Something like 7-minute turnaround for their aircraft.
@YellowSweaterVest is talking about some "fight me 1v1 fgt" macho bullshit. Money and production ability is the skin you have in the game... drones are the new front-line, so now we can drastically reduce the size and cost of the burdensome military, reduce the number of life-long pensioners, and zog-fighters, who joined with delusions of good intentions and "patriotic duty".
In his last line he discusses the problems with current bureaucracy&legal code w/r/t 2A. Ex: Soros can legally hire mercenary armies, but I can't own the weaponry and equipment the mercenaries do because I'm not an authorized or registered to do so.. except that the 2A allows me to, however the courts interpret it differently than I do. I am a well regulated army of one. Where is my own personal F-16? My own personal nuke? Why can't I mount machine guns on drones? Soros/Gates/Buffet/any rich person can hire them to do what they are wanting to get done, but I can't do it myself.
Brave Heart won the War of Independence for the US by sniping Britfags in the woods and ferns with hatchets, bows, and muskets. Maybe I will need to do that some time to win a war... but today maybe I will need to get in my F-16, my F-35, tank, or unleash my swarm of drone weaponry against an invading army.
The future is drone warfare. Everyone else is moving forward with it. The news and government may tell you "oh no! no! this is unethical!" ...but they're building them. All of them. US, China, Russia, EU... don't be stupid.
We are approaching an age where the 2A is outdated and needs to be greatly expanded, yet we live in an age where it is being ever collapsed.
WRT drones: the atf won't even allow you to attach a pistol to a flying hobby drone in such a way that it can shoot. Why?
IIRC the hunting ranch that had a site w/webcam, a rifle, feed traps, raised wildlife, and let people log in, and pay money to hunt deer was closed. Why? "too mechanical, plebs! you're not allowed to have this! only us!" --fuck you. my gun, my computer, my hardware, my ranch, my animals, my web-store, my business, my right, eat a dick.
Having someone in a dark room sat with Hillary, able to steer and select targets using a drone that two kids from Iowa deployed from a custom HMMV on a desert highway in an unknown country is bad enough.
Drone platforms are large, F-16 platforms are huge. Massive MOABS, nukes, enough pyload to put a pretty intelligent fuzzy AI computer in the machine that can take off, select and destroy targets, and land itself.
It takes the humanity out of war and puts martial power into the hands of the wealthy and connected who havent earned it.
It takes the humanity out of war and puts martial power into the hands of the wealthy and connected who haven't earned it.
Entering a new phase of warfare. Remove the weak-link: the pilot, who is human, makes errors, gets tired, has fears, blacks-out....Teach a computer a task once and duplicate.
War used to be very personal when fought with swords; you could smell your foe and feel the splash of their blood, hear their cries and pleas for mercy. Bow/arrow & gunpowder put some distance between warring parties, but the airplane really sanitized war.
Winds of change are blowing. Of course we can leave Syrian conflict, so long as we leave our automatic killing machines behind now that training is complete.
There's a couple grievous exaggerations in your statement that need to be corrected, cause you're painting too scary a picture here. Your story of two kids launching a full-size refitted F-15 drone from a HMMVW on a desert road is just that, a story, and a ridiculous one at that. Here's a list of all the things wrong with what you said.
A drone small enough to be launched from the back of a vehicle on the side of the road is going to have a very short flight radius, a couple of miles maximum, and will have little to no payload capability. Furthermore, its only going to have a simple short wave radio transceiver on it for direct line of sight (LOS) control by the person who launched it (think an RC plane), because long wave transceivers or satellite antennas and their requisite larger power supplies will be too big and heavy for a small drone. So there's no feasible way for someone not in the immediate area to be controlling it, unless they set up a relay network of short range radios spanning the entire country.
Large drones either require a runway to take off, or are VTOL which limits their operating range, both distance and altitude. To launch a converted fighter jet using a desert highway as an airstrip will require a lot more than just two guys and a truck. You'll need to section at least a mile or two of the road and have people manning the barricades cause people will just drive around it if nobody is there to stop them.
You'll need some way of securely transporting the aircraft and its payloads there, either putting it on the back of an oversized trailer, which is not sneaky at all, or removing the wings and putting it in a shipping container so you can use a regular semi truck, which is more inconspicuous but will require on-site technicians and specialized machinery to reattach the wings once you're there.
You'll also need a fuel truck because you can't transport a plane loaded with fuel. Aviation fuel, also called Avgas, is very hazardous due to its high octane (100 to 120 is the norm). Avgas is also still leaded because the synthetic fuel additives that were created to replace lead in fuel don't work at altitude, so not only is it begging to start an inferno, but its highly toxic as well.
Speaking of fuel, fighter aircraft don't have very large fuel tanks. Their focus is speed and maneuverability, not range. Most fighter aircraft have a maximum range of a few hundred miles or so, an extra hundred or so with some under-wing fuel pods, but then those pods are taking up anchor points for weapon or surveillance payloads, decreasing the drone's capability. So unless you're launching the plane within 50-100 miles of the target, you'll need a mid-air refueling tanker aircraft as well, which makes this whole thing even more complicated.
F-15 launched MOAB
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
MOABs are way too big to be launched by a fighter jet. The only planes that can deploy a MOAB are dedicated heavy bombers (B-1B, B-52...J I think is the model name they're on now) or heavy-lift cargo aircraft (C-5, C-17). Also MOABs were a R&D project that didn't go anywhere, just a "lets see what happens" with no intended outcome. They dropped that MOAB in Afghanistan a year or so ago to get rid of it because they had been sitting for 15+ years and the explosive material was about to expire (high explosives degrade over time, either becoming completely inert, or breaking down into simpler and less potent explosive compounds).
Nukes
You don't nuke your own soil, not even the kikes would do that. Their infamous Sampson Option is a last resort, not standard procedure. Fighter aircraft don't carry nuclear payloads anyway, nukes are heavy.
The only thing you're correct about is autopilot being sophisticated enough for planes to control themselves for practically the entire flight. I don't know about the "select and destroy targets" however. The drone can be given a grid coordinate and orders to either directly attack, or to fly within range of the coordinate, activate the surveillance payload, and target any heat or EM signatures it picks up. But that's a fairly dumb system. If they give the drone the wrong coordinates it will still carry out its mission, the drone isn't identifying or analyzing the targets, merely detecting and engaging. Any on-the-spot analysis and positive ID'ing of targets will have to be done by the operators watching the live feed of the surveillance payload.
Go be a shill somewhere else. An off-the-shelf RC gyrocopter with an attached camera from the electronics store that you can toss into the air is not the same as a full-size militarized unmanned aircraft. Do you have any idea how big an F-15 of F-16 is? Have you ever even seen them in person? Those are hypothetical questions cause you're a shill so you obviously haven't. Shoo Jew, get back in the oven.
The rich and powerful need a rabble to govern. Power is relative. It ceases to exist without a commensurate powerlessness. They need us far more than they need each other.
Ultimately if the purpose of a biological organism is to gain mastery of environs and gain awareness, the Cockroaches of Hillary and the Species of Israel is the antithesis = Nullification = Nothing
It's funny that "you see" despite not admitting you've been out of the field and I was responding to a post that admitted this is was Israel is doing. Very intelligent grandpa
I used to work on Avionics, this isn't really true.
If you take a capability such as "autoland" and work backwards, there is no mechanism for this in most Commercial Aircraft. \
My equipment hooked up to the ARINC Bus and got data from the ADIRU and other telemetries so it could keep SATCOM dishes and equipment aimed properly.
I never saw any remote control equipment on any of the modern Airbus or Boeing or Bombardier aircraft I worked on.
That doesn't mean it couldn't have been bolted on, but Occams Razor leads me to believe that hijackers crashed the planes and pre-planted explosives brought the buildings down.
This may be what you are referring to, and it is most definitely worth sharing:
Dude, the exception to your theory is that most drones are landed by local in visual sight pilots that take control. Remote control pilots that can see the drone take over it’s controls to land that clumbsy beast. 911 would be no different
This theory is fine, but IMHO the planes were almost certainly drones. Ik this is a relatively minor point, but it's an important one to understand in order to develop a comprehensive, unambiguous, understanding of 9/11. Obviously emotionally processing the fact that it was an inside/Israeli job is the most important part, but still.
The evidence that the planes were remotely piloted is overwhelming, you probably just haven't been exposed to it.
The whole doc is the most clinical 9/11 resource I've come across. Focuses on the what and not the (((who))), which is great for redpilling high IQ ppl.
If we're going by Occam's Razor, it's even simpler to say that CIA/Mossad found some useful idiots, gave them some cash, and pointed them in the right direction.
Doesn't explain how three buildings collapsed at free-fall velocity into their own footprints.
Doesn't explain the secondary explosions that many people reported.
Doesn't explain the reason that the steel was shipped off to China without metallurgy.
Doesn't explain the Nano-Thermite like compounds that AE911 investigators found.
Doesn't explain a lot of things, including why Cheney gave stand down orders during the war games that were painting false signatures on our air radar.
Steel has a density of 8030 kg/m^3. Aluminum has a density of 2700 kg/m^3. No one has explained how high density steel was defeated by something one-third as dense. Planes crumple like accordions when they hit something. The faster they go the faster they crumple. There's video online of an F-4 jet hitting a concrete wall. The jet pancakes. Structural steel is much denser than concrete.
That still begs the question as to "why." Plans with thousands of moving parts are much more likely to fail than plans with half a dozen. There's a lot more risk involved with introducing bombs into the mix as well as planes, and no tangible reward that I see.
The entire purpose of it was the optics. Not 500 dead, some buildings we have to demolish in a ceremony a week later... Those buildings had to fall - on the same news cycle, once everyone was tuned in.
There is a major component that needs to be discussed but there are too many moving parts to the conversation itself. But there was financial records storage and intelligence services themselves using WTC7.
2 main reasons - the primary being that the conspiracy got out of hand.
The conspiracy [Saudi, Afghani etc] to hit NYC was the left hand.
The conspiracy to hit the Pentagon and perform something of a military coup was the right hand.
The reason barely trained pilots were able to hit the twin towers was that they are so fucking big and obvious visually. Also if they missed, no big deal, collateral damage anywhere in NYC would have been almost as good optics. [The Arabs are very proud, the 'precision' of the strike got Allah many praises]
But what hit the Pentagon was not a commercial aircraft, and the Navy ONI was the primary target.
So the moving parts, in my understanding are as follows:
Cheney/Neocon Wargames as cover. Handful of people "in the know" operated those very public war games using our extant infrastructure.
40-60 million dollars to train some Saudi Muhadeen pilots.
Small group of Israelis and Mercenaries to rig the buildings. The 14 Israeli "Art Students" coordinated things there, along with the "Moving Truck Dancing Israelis".
Single Dolphin-Class submarine with a hypersonic cruise missile to hit the Pentagon from James Bay Canada.
yeah it's pretty clear, donald is playing for the jews, he always has been and always will be. He was openly stating during him campaign run in 2016 that he was going to do whatever he needed to for them, except people are retarded and pacified now and listen to only what they want to hear.
I see your IQ is very low. Where Israel exists was British territory. The British determined that would be the state of Israel and ceded their territory in order to make that happen.
So he probably had some special interest group pressuring him to do it it seems. This is quite a horrible thing to do and he was selling out his nation to a nation that does not even like ours.
are you suggesting it was horrible TO block the sale to Isreal?
You guys really should read the fine article before commenting. Israel wants to sell a dozen of its F-16's, which they bought legally, to Croatia, who is a NATO ally. The US is blocking the sale because Israel kept these old planes maintained, which includes upgrading them to modern standards.
Trampoline ago
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SaiSanthosh ago
Avionics was literally my last career and you are full on retard
Doglegwarrior ago
Fuck benjamin netenfuckingfaggotyou. Thats one of the worst people on the planet. If him and dick cheney met the fucking world might explode from to much evil in one room.
chirogonemd ago
So in a world of just a relative handful of powerful people, who has power and what defines it at that point? Those who have the most automated machines? Are you picturing a world of 50 or so people who sit on their thrones surrounded by robots, in a cold war with each other mediated by the mutually assured destruction due to each other's drones?
What sense is there to rule in an empty castle in an empty countryside. The will to power is the only motivator that got them there to begin with. You really think it is about wealth? What good is wealth without the non-wealthy?
What drama would go on in the world without other things or people to conquer. There would be no room left to create inequity, which is the spice of life. A person that rich would be poor indeed.
That kind of situation would collapse faster than a rock and roll super group.
knightwarrior41 ago
short answer most of these people are psychopaths and sociopaths so they wont stop until they have it all
u_r_wat_u_eat ago
dude..
MrBateman ago
There is no such thing as a "sale" to israel. All goods sent there are paid for by the manufacturers by force of the US.
mememeyou ago
instead Mattis thinks the F-16's should be gifted to Israel for free
boggle247 ago
Good. It's sad seeing mattis leave.
speedisavirus ago
Fake retard news is fake retard news. You fucking low IQ niggers literally were mad at Mattis for his support for Israel then immediately assume he would harm Israel? You are fucking low as fuck IQ.
bamex ago
And nobody even read the first sentence in the article.
speedisavirus ago
You know, except he didn't and this site is fake news
SparklingWiggle ago
Fuck those fucking Jews. I'm no fan of muslims but I would applaud them for destroying that nation.
provacativetweets ago
Look at this faggot ovulating over sandniggers.
petevoat ago
Strange we give 38 billion to Israel ... but then made a deal for them to buy 500mil of jets from us.
SparklingWiggle ago
Read the article. It was Israel selling to Croatia which requires US authorization .
TPTBNewsReviewer ago
Now, we know why StableGenius sucker punched the fake stream media into supporting Mattis.
NosebergShekelman ago
I hope goys dont start targeting us oy vey
Food_Stamp ago
Shit, did they fire him?
lazylance ago
We are saving Isreal for last.
Tallest_Skil ago
Fuck off, you god damned Q-LARPing son of a bitch. You literally worship a kike shill. Your entire hoax was exposed a year ago.
lazylance ago
Whatever dude, it sure has been interesting and who really cares what you or I believe?
Thanks for being an asshole about it, Happy New Year!
Tallest_Skil ago
Don't care. Your god is a proven hoax. You are spamming lies and supporting white genocide. Either kill yourself or stop posting your hoaxes. Now.
lazylance ago
You sound like a kike
Tallest_Skil ago
Try harder.
RemoteViewer1 ago
they down call Israel the "Synagogue of Satan" for nothing
ruck_feddit ago
Makes me sick reading the 2nd half of that article.
Men13 ago
Misleading title is misleading! And if course none of the people who commented here actually read beyond the title. Yet they all claim to be in the side of "reason" and "critical thinking"...
He didn't block the sale of F16s to Israel. He blocked Israel from selling their old F16s to Croatia.
Ken_bingo2 ago
I read the article BECAUSE the title was AMBIGUOUS. You are a fucking idiot.
CameraCode ago
I got that, but I don't really see why he would block it.
Men13 ago
From the article:
The US blocked a deal where
The problem is Croatia wants things in the planes that the US doesn't want them to have.
Also, isn't it a bit... concerning that Israel upgraded F16 that they sell to 3rd parties are considered Superior to US made planes??
If that's what they are selling, what do they keep for themselves??
cthulian_axioms ago
It's the principle of the thing.
Why should the Israelis get to make even more money by selling gear that we fucking gave them? Especially right after we just gave those assholes $38 billion as a Hanukkah gift? I get that Jews are gonna jew, but goddamn.
Men13 ago
That's not the reason. That might be why you want the deal blocked, but not why it was actually blocked. The article explicitly stated why it was blocked.
It was blocked because the US doesn't want Croatia to have Superior war planes. The US doesn't mind if Israel sells the planes as-is.
CrustyBeaver52 ago
They don't want the tech in Russian hands.
They don't trust the Croats.
Men13 ago
Maybe because he doesn't want Croatia to have more powerful fighters that might give them ideas about Russia that could pull all of NATO in?
Maybe American companies want to sell fighters to Croatia and he doesn't want them to go with the Israeli deal?
It might not have anything to do with the middle East...
Morbo ago
There are a lot of Dunning-Kruger affected people on Voat. Critical thinking to them means being critical of anyone thinking differently then their in-group bias.
30YOBoomer ago
There are a lot of Dunning-Kruger affected people, period.
EmperorKhan ago
I don't get this dude. He was against troop withdrawal in the ME, but blocks this? What side is he on?
Men13 ago
The title is misleading. He didn't block the sale of F16s to Israel. He blocked Israel from selling their old F16s to Croatia.
chottocharaii ago
Gonna need a better source on this
speedisavirus ago
There isn't one because it's literally fake because Mattis isn't legally able to do this.
the_one_you_see_last ago
Does this this mean the israeli f-16 is better than american f-35? Or why cant Croatia have them?
AmaleksHairyAss ago
Not better, but it's still a damned good plane. One I don't want to read about the US having to fight.
JimSoddell ago
Crazy. People have a fundamental "right to repair" and to upgrade their stuff, and to sell it.
albeit ago
The US gave those jets away at taxpayer expense in the form of foreign aid to Israel, which is required to be spent on defense (on American-made items). Regardless of the excuse Mattis allegedly provided, why should the US approve a deal like that? That's unfair competition - we're paying twice (giving away a jet to Israel, then losing a sale because they resell the jet).
YellowSweaterVest ago
They turn them into drones. If you don't believe me, go find the story where they had an F16 shot down and the pilot was miraculously safe in an Israeli Hospital within a few hours.
Massive uptick of drone and AI warfare, using commerical aircraft as cover.
Israel is a shitstain on humanity.
speedisavirus ago
It's almost like you are a low IQ faggot. I worked on F-16s and had more than one pilot have to punch out in Iraq. They were fine.
YellowSweaterVest ago
And they made it back in uncontrolled airspace two countries away within a few hours?
speedisavirus ago
I see you don't understand sizes of countries or that borders don't have a constant time to reach regardless of position.
HouseHawkwood ago
Possibly, the countries in the Levantine aren’t big. Israel is the equivalent of New Jersey and Syria the size of Washington State.
YellowSweaterVest ago
Except that they had an F-16 with all of its countermeasures shot down, so what did they evac the pilot with?
speedisavirus ago
I see you are retarded. The same way they always do. Either go in on the ground or fly in helos.
HouseHawkwood ago
Don’t know. Helo flying low? Not saying Israelis aren’t being sneaky sneks, I mean that’s a given with Israel, just that the time span to “rescue” is plausible given how small the countries are.
YellowSweaterVest ago
Every towelhead is just looking to put holes in titanium buckets. And they have many opportunities to take pot-shots with relatively unstumpable MANPADS for anything that low.
HouseHawkwood ago
It’s more difficult than that even with a man pad especially if your tree top level but that’s besides the point. My comment was only that the time frame is plausible not that Israel telling the truth
YellowSweaterVest ago
Agreed.
YellowSweaterVest ago
Based on the psychology of that Nation, the motto of their armed forces, the relatively low size of their population - they are pushing the boundaries of drone warfare.
If you want to understand the mindset of the Israeli air force, look at how they dominated in the 6-day war. Something like 7-minute turnaround for their aircraft.
ToFat2Fish ago
What's wrong with turning then into drones?
fluhthreeex ago
Nothing is wrong with drones.
@YellowSweaterVest is talking about some "fight me 1v1 fgt" macho bullshit. Money and production ability is the skin you have in the game... drones are the new front-line, so now we can drastically reduce the size and cost of the burdensome military, reduce the number of life-long pensioners, and zog-fighters, who joined with delusions of good intentions and "patriotic duty".
In his last line he discusses the problems with current bureaucracy&legal code w/r/t 2A. Ex: Soros can legally hire mercenary armies, but I can't own the weaponry and equipment the mercenaries do because I'm not an authorized or registered to do so.. except that the 2A allows me to, however the courts interpret it differently than I do. I am a well regulated army of one. Where is my own personal F-16? My own personal nuke? Why can't I mount machine guns on drones? Soros/Gates/Buffet/any rich person can hire them to do what they are wanting to get done, but I can't do it myself.
Brave Heart won the War of Independence for the US by sniping Britfags in the woods and ferns with hatchets, bows, and muskets. Maybe I will need to do that some time to win a war... but today maybe I will need to get in my F-16, my F-35, tank, or unleash my swarm of drone weaponry against an invading army.
The future is drone warfare. Everyone else is moving forward with it. The news and government may tell you "oh no! no! this is unethical!" ...but they're building them. All of them. US, China, Russia, EU... don't be stupid.
We are approaching an age where the 2A is outdated and needs to be greatly expanded, yet we live in an age where it is being ever collapsed.
WRT drones: the atf won't even allow you to attach a pistol to a flying hobby drone in such a way that it can shoot. Why?
IIRC the hunting ranch that had a site w/webcam, a rifle, feed traps, raised wildlife, and let people log in, and pay money to hunt deer was closed. Why? "too mechanical, plebs! you're not allowed to have this! only us!" --fuck you. my gun, my computer, my hardware, my ranch, my animals, my web-store, my business, my right, eat a dick.
YellowSweaterVest ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0
BTW, the way I fight you, in particular?
I ignore you, make a note of your address, then I murder your children when they hit around 14 years old.
I never tell you why.
I simply eliminate you from the gene pool.
That is how we fight, and why you lose.
fluhthreeex ago
You're the one bitching about people with drones not having "skin in the game".
Who do you think you represent?
YellowSweaterVest ago
You're so desperate to know because you never developed the organ we communicate with.
Once we were secretive, now critical mass is achieved and you are gutter sluts. Fingerbanging eachother on tape.
fluhthreeex ago
Drink less next year. Rage less. Happy matzo ball.
YellowSweaterVest ago
"Spirits"
your achilles.
You're Comical.
fluhthreeex ago
...and recording your daughter while i fuck her.
She won't let me put the big stick in until I get her warmed up... gotta start slow.
SaneGoatOySwear ago
What's up nigger? Miss me?
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2947163/15881415
YellowSweaterVest ago
You have cancer.
Go get it checked out.
It is the kind that kills you.
You're welcome.
YellowSweaterVest ago
Luckily we own everything you own and know much more.
Your entire gene seed exists at our luxury.
Test us, now, cloakskin.
fluhthreeex ago
no idea what you're talking about. go to sleep, drunk.
YellowSweaterVest ago
https://soundcloud.com/wulfusboof/rwd-88
fluhthreeex ago
I'm good. Thanks. Smoochie smoochie. I'm off to watch a movie and go to bed.
YellowSweaterVest ago
I don't understand you therefore you are at fault.
The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.
fluhthreeex ago
Ah, I see. So I'm a jew now. The only thing you have left is name calling?
YellowSweaterVest ago
There's bullets and fuel and dog food left.
fluhthreeex ago
👋
Edit: ...yes... member for 12 hours. Ok, then. I noticed when I blocked you.
YellowSweaterVest ago
No skin in the game is the problem.
Having someone in a dark room sat with Hillary, able to steer and select targets using a drone that two kids from Iowa deployed from a custom HMMV on a desert highway in an unknown country is bad enough.
Drone platforms are large, F-16 platforms are huge. Massive MOABS, nukes, enough pyload to put a pretty intelligent fuzzy AI computer in the machine that can take off, select and destroy targets, and land itself.
It takes the humanity out of war and puts martial power into the hands of the wealthy and connected who havent earned it.
gamergategoyim ago
One day Skynet is going to turn on Israel and all be cheering it on in Heaven or Hell.
BumFightChamp ago
You're describing Jews and the wars they've caused for the past 300 years man... You don't need a computer to automate warfare.
YellowSweaterVest ago
At least we can kill their puppets if they are flying over our cities.
Honey_Pot ago
Entering a new phase of warfare. Remove the weak-link: the pilot, who is human, makes errors, gets tired, has fears, blacks-out....Teach a computer a task once and duplicate.
YellowSweaterVest ago
End up with a planet full of robots?
Honey_Pot ago
End up with smoldering ruins.
War used to be very personal when fought with swords; you could smell your foe and feel the splash of their blood, hear their cries and pleas for mercy. Bow/arrow & gunpowder put some distance between warring parties, but the airplane really sanitized war.
Winds of change are blowing. Of course we can leave Syrian conflict, so long as we leave our automatic killing machines behind now that training is complete.
Narow_Foe_Minsk ago
There's a couple grievous exaggerations in your statement that need to be corrected, cause you're painting too scary a picture here. Your story of two kids launching a full-size refitted F-15 drone from a HMMVW on a desert road is just that, a story, and a ridiculous one at that. Here's a list of all the things wrong with what you said.
A drone small enough to be launched from the back of a vehicle on the side of the road is going to have a very short flight radius, a couple of miles maximum, and will have little to no payload capability. Furthermore, its only going to have a simple short wave radio transceiver on it for direct line of sight (LOS) control by the person who launched it (think an RC plane), because long wave transceivers or satellite antennas and their requisite larger power supplies will be too big and heavy for a small drone. So there's no feasible way for someone not in the immediate area to be controlling it, unless they set up a relay network of short range radios spanning the entire country.
Large drones either require a runway to take off, or are VTOL which limits their operating range, both distance and altitude. To launch a converted fighter jet using a desert highway as an airstrip will require a lot more than just two guys and a truck. You'll need to section at least a mile or two of the road and have people manning the barricades cause people will just drive around it if nobody is there to stop them.
You'll need some way of securely transporting the aircraft and its payloads there, either putting it on the back of an oversized trailer, which is not sneaky at all, or removing the wings and putting it in a shipping container so you can use a regular semi truck, which is more inconspicuous but will require on-site technicians and specialized machinery to reattach the wings once you're there.
You'll also need a fuel truck because you can't transport a plane loaded with fuel. Aviation fuel, also called Avgas, is very hazardous due to its high octane (100 to 120 is the norm). Avgas is also still leaded because the synthetic fuel additives that were created to replace lead in fuel don't work at altitude, so not only is it begging to start an inferno, but its highly toxic as well.
Speaking of fuel, fighter aircraft don't have very large fuel tanks. Their focus is speed and maneuverability, not range. Most fighter aircraft have a maximum range of a few hundred miles or so, an extra hundred or so with some under-wing fuel pods, but then those pods are taking up anchor points for weapon or surveillance payloads, decreasing the drone's capability. So unless you're launching the plane within 50-100 miles of the target, you'll need a mid-air refueling tanker aircraft as well, which makes this whole thing even more complicated.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
MOABs are way too big to be launched by a fighter jet. The only planes that can deploy a MOAB are dedicated heavy bombers (B-1B, B-52...J I think is the model name they're on now) or heavy-lift cargo aircraft (C-5, C-17). Also MOABs were a R&D project that didn't go anywhere, just a "lets see what happens" with no intended outcome. They dropped that MOAB in Afghanistan a year or so ago to get rid of it because they had been sitting for 15+ years and the explosive material was about to expire (high explosives degrade over time, either becoming completely inert, or breaking down into simpler and less potent explosive compounds).
You don't nuke your own soil, not even the kikes would do that. Their infamous Sampson Option is a last resort, not standard procedure. Fighter aircraft don't carry nuclear payloads anyway, nukes are heavy.
The only thing you're correct about is autopilot being sophisticated enough for planes to control themselves for practically the entire flight. I don't know about the "select and destroy targets" however. The drone can be given a grid coordinate and orders to either directly attack, or to fly within range of the coordinate, activate the surveillance payload, and target any heat or EM signatures it picks up. But that's a fairly dumb system. If they give the drone the wrong coordinates it will still carry out its mission, the drone isn't identifying or analyzing the targets, merely detecting and engaging. Any on-the-spot analysis and positive ID'ing of targets will have to be done by the operators watching the live feed of the surveillance payload.
YellowSweaterVest ago
That's not my story. That is how Predator and Reaper drones were launched around 2013 IIRC.
YellowSweaterVest ago
I don't need to read more because that is exactly how many drones are deployed.
The rest of your post is manic nonsense.
Narow_Foe_Minsk ago
Go be a shill somewhere else. An off-the-shelf RC gyrocopter with an attached camera from the electronics store that you can toss into the air is not the same as a full-size militarized unmanned aircraft. Do you have any idea how big an F-15 of F-16 is? Have you ever even seen them in person? Those are hypothetical questions cause you're a shill so you obviously haven't. Shoo Jew, get back in the oven.
YellowSweaterVest ago
That is why the platform can support MOABS and Bunker Buster Nukes and lots of Seed Hardware.
lipids ago
Yep. If the rich can automate warfare, mass genocide of everyone else will soon follow. This is why wealth inequality is dangerous.
chirogonemd ago
The rich and powerful need a rabble to govern. Power is relative. It ceases to exist without a commensurate powerlessness. They need us far more than they need each other.
lipids ago
No, they don't. Automation makes the rabble irrelevant.
YellowSweaterVest ago
As seen throughout history and why homo sapien is on strike 3.
Phantom42 ago
Found the Marxist. Die.
Shartdownunder ago
Dam, I've never seen a better response to anti A.I warfare.
I'm saving this mate, this is really well put.
YellowSweaterVest ago
Ultimately if the purpose of a biological organism is to gain mastery of environs and gain awareness, the Cockroaches of Hillary and the Species of Israel is the antithesis = Nullification = Nothing
ToFat2Fish ago
I see thank you for the response.
eronburr ago
Supposedly all planes are capable of being remotely controlled since 911, even commercial.
speedisavirus ago
I see you are low IQ. Avionics was literally my last career and you are full on retard.
eronburr ago
It's funny that "you see" despite not admitting you've been out of the field and I was responding to a post that admitted this is was Israel is doing. Very intelligent grandpa
YellowSweaterVest ago
I used to work on Avionics, this isn't really true.
If you take a capability such as "autoland" and work backwards, there is no mechanism for this in most Commercial Aircraft. \
My equipment hooked up to the ARINC Bus and got data from the ADIRU and other telemetries so it could keep SATCOM dishes and equipment aimed properly.
I never saw any remote control equipment on any of the modern Airbus or Boeing or Bombardier aircraft I worked on.
That doesn't mean it couldn't have been bolted on, but Occams Razor leads me to believe that hijackers crashed the planes and pre-planted explosives brought the buildings down.
This may be what you are referring to, and it is most definitely worth sharing:
http://f4ct.co/CensorThis.html
blam4fun ago
Ever hear of the Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot? Do some research and you'll learn something.
pizza_mine ago
Dude, the exception to your theory is that most drones are landed by local in visual sight pilots that take control. Remote control pilots that can see the drone take over it’s controls to land that clumbsy beast. 911 would be no different
YellowSweaterVest ago
2001 has really no analog with Predator drones of today.
Remember 2001 they had flip phones and pagers and shit.
Anyway, devil's advocate, here is some of the remote-control technology that exists.
https://www.911-strike.com/remote_bb.htm
With this theory you'd have to modify the aircraft and disable the pilots anyway.
AnarchicAlpaca ago
Correct. The planes were they for optics and the cover narrative.
Yanx ago
This theory is fine, but IMHO the planes were almost certainly drones. Ik this is a relatively minor point, but it's an important one to understand in order to develop a comprehensive, unambiguous, understanding of 9/11. Obviously emotionally processing the fact that it was an inside/Israeli job is the most important part, but still.
The evidence that the planes were remotely piloted is overwhelming, you probably just haven't been exposed to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWUzfJGmt5U&t=88m30s
The whole doc is the most clinical 9/11 resource I've come across. Focuses on the what and not the (((who))), which is great for redpilling high IQ ppl.
ArchmageMordenkainen ago
If we're going by Occam's Razor, it's even simpler to say that CIA/Mossad found some useful idiots, gave them some cash, and pointed them in the right direction.
YellowSweaterVest ago
Doesn't explain how three buildings collapsed at free-fall velocity into their own footprints.
Doesn't explain the secondary explosions that many people reported.
Doesn't explain the reason that the steel was shipped off to China without metallurgy.
Doesn't explain the Nano-Thermite like compounds that AE911 investigators found.
Doesn't explain a lot of things, including why Cheney gave stand down orders during the war games that were painting false signatures on our air radar.
Doesn't explain the Pentagon hit.
blam4fun ago
Steel has a density of 8030 kg/m^3. Aluminum has a density of 2700 kg/m^3. No one has explained how high density steel was defeated by something one-third as dense. Planes crumple like accordions when they hit something. The faster they go the faster they crumple. There's video online of an F-4 jet hitting a concrete wall. The jet pancakes. Structural steel is much denser than concrete.
ArchmageMordenkainen ago
That still begs the question as to "why." Plans with thousands of moving parts are much more likely to fail than plans with half a dozen. There's a lot more risk involved with introducing bombs into the mix as well as planes, and no tangible reward that I see.
YellowSweaterVest ago
The entire purpose of it was the optics. Not 500 dead, some buildings we have to demolish in a ceremony a week later... Those buildings had to fall - on the same news cycle, once everyone was tuned in.
There is a major component that needs to be discussed but there are too many moving parts to the conversation itself. But there was financial records storage and intelligence services themselves using WTC7.
YellowSweaterVest ago
2 main reasons - the primary being that the conspiracy got out of hand.
The conspiracy [Saudi, Afghani etc] to hit NYC was the left hand.
The conspiracy to hit the Pentagon and perform something of a military coup was the right hand.
The reason barely trained pilots were able to hit the twin towers was that they are so fucking big and obvious visually. Also if they missed, no big deal, collateral damage anywhere in NYC would have been almost as good optics. [The Arabs are very proud, the 'precision' of the strike got Allah many praises]
But what hit the Pentagon was not a commercial aircraft, and the Navy ONI was the primary target.
So the moving parts, in my understanding are as follows:
Cheney/Neocon Wargames as cover. Handful of people "in the know" operated those very public war games using our extant infrastructure.
40-60 million dollars to train some Saudi Muhadeen pilots.
Small group of Israelis and Mercenaries to rig the buildings. The 14 Israeli "Art Students" coordinated things there, along with the "Moving Truck Dancing Israelis".
Single Dolphin-Class submarine with a hypersonic cruise missile to hit the Pentagon from James Bay Canada.
JohnWinning ago
How many Shekels is that?
AmaleksHairyAss ago
1.8 billion
fhaqyu ago
and now he's being replaced with someone that wont block it.
still think Trump is playing for America
downton-stabby ago
Either that or he's brainwashed like the rest of the Israel First people.
fhaqyu ago
yeah it's pretty clear, donald is playing for the jews, he always has been and always will be. He was openly stating during him campaign run in 2016 that he was going to do whatever he needed to for them, except people are retarded and pacified now and listen to only what they want to hear.
captainstrange ago
Because of him the two-state solution is now back on the table--thats like chopping israels balls off.
Jay_Mac ago
I don't.
Posso_Tutto ago
Good job Mattis. Bad ass to the end
speedisavirus ago
I see you are low IQ. Might as well be somalian.
Pwning4Ever ago
My question is why Mattis wanted to "Fix" the entire middle east.
Granted this a big fuck you to Israel.
Jay_Mac ago
He probably just wanted to get them a better deal, like free ,fuck Mattis
Pwning4Ever ago
No, this is Mattiss blocking Israel selling 500M to Croatia worth of jets.
cuzimloony ago
He shoulda bombed Israel before leaving.
speedisavirus ago
I see you are retarded enough to not only believe this post but also to think has has authority to do that.
MAGAroniNCheese ago
We created Israel, so we can do what we want
speedisavirus ago
I see your IQ is low. Tell me again when a general has the authority to block funding again?
MAGAroniNCheese ago
You tell me, since you're a fucking genious. I'm just a lowly software engineer.
speedisavirus ago
Who is we because you sound like you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
MAGAroniNCheese ago
The UNITED STATES, you dufus. We are founding members of the UN. We helped create the state of Israel after WW2
speedisavirus ago
I see your IQ is very low. Where Israel exists was British territory. The British determined that would be the state of Israel and ceded their territory in order to make that happen.
cuzimloony ago
My statement has nothing to do with the post. Im just saying the he shoulda bombed Israel before leaving. True story.
Tallest_Skil ago
Holy fuck, you really are a paid jewish shill.
1moar ago
It's New Years, he's optimistic.
Walk1 ago
So he probably had some special interest group pressuring him to do it it seems. This is quite a horrible thing to do and he was selling out his nation to a nation that does not even like ours.
speedisavirus ago
He literally can't block funding for anything. Fake news.
WilliamCutting ago
Wait, are you suggesting it was horrible TO block the sale to Isreal?
JimSoddell ago
You guys really should read the fine article before commenting. Israel wants to sell a dozen of its F-16's, which they bought legally, to Croatia, who is a NATO ally. The US is blocking the sale because Israel kept these old planes maintained, which includes upgrading them to modern standards.
Pwning4Ever ago
ahhh. the headline is really bad for this.
So we give Israel our money, Israel buys our weapons, Israel sells our weapons. OUR ENTIRE FUCKING GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE NUKED.
WilliamCutting ago
Thats fair. Not going to pretend I don't title skim.
As for the sale, I'm torn. On one hand Croatia is a good country, on the other fuck Isreal in any way possible.
Walk1 ago
That is was horrible to let it go through.
L3D ago
Learn to read commie, he blocked the sale.
Walk1 ago
It said that he resigned it, so I read it as meaning he signed it through at first, then blocked it, and then resigned it.
lazylance ago
Can you read?
ArchmageMordenkainen ago
In this case "resign" means that Mattis left his job.
Niggertown ago
"Still not getting your soul back, James 'Zog Dog' Mattis."
-Satan
amendthediscourse ago
Browntown, you is confused and shit. The soul is not under Satan’s control.
Tablemonster ago
Fuuuuck Israel
Uncle_Tractor ago
Israel is fucking us.
ginx2666 ago
With POTUS's blessing, no less.
knightwarrior41 ago
the real reason he got fired?