What we really need is a meritocracy as a political system...every politician and political appointee should be scrutinized, up to and including a state-of-the-art polygraph examination, to make sure we have the best people working for us. What we have now is more akin to a kakistocracy.
It's been 52 years of this bullshit. You can't even talk to your neighbors because they don't speak the same language. Native children are minorities in the schools. 52% of immigrants take public assistance. Commit crime disproportionate to white people. Even worse, we've drained the world of its most intelligent people who can't lead their country if they're leading a business here. The United States is a project of dysgenics on a world scale.
Poor Americans are the ones hurt the most by uncontrolled immigration. The immigrants dispossess citizens from low wage jobs by undercutting the wage by working under the table. They additionally strain social welfare programs with the burden of significant additional recipients that are not accounted for when budgets are passed. Every aspect of life for a poor American is made more difficult by illegal immigration.
80% of Americans are not productive enough to qualify for said merit-based immigration. Maybe we should cap citizenship at 300 million and reevaluate everybody's status based on their contributions to this country. If you are a useless feeder and undermine our constitution, shouldn't matter if you were born here or if your parents were citizens, maybe you shouldn't get the protection of our constitution any more.
Damn these people are a riot. He believes the earth is flat, 5,000 years old, and created by God with dinosaur bones embedded in the rocks, AND owns SynagogueofSatan. Now go figure that one out. They are not bringing their best now, are they folks? They must really think you people are retarded.
Can we deport dumb white people too? If so I'm totally game. Like, if anyone who still believes global warming isn't a thing when it's raining in january and I can't ride my god damn snowmobile, yeah, fuck them, kick them out, I don't want them in the gene pool of our country.
I am personally a fan of removing warning labels and letting Mr. Darwin sort it out. But if they are mudsharks, let them go to shithole countries. It would raise the IQ of both countries.
With that said, while I believe that global warming/climate change is real, using individual local weather conditions are not a good indicator of long term averages
If we had merit based immigration, we wouldn't need H1B visas. That's why the globalists are against it. Notice how all the death threats and race baiting on this thread are from Voat moderators? I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
I think you’re missing the point - that even Hillary voting Demo moron libtard niggers don’t want the sand nigger/street shitter invasion that we’ve had.
Of course, it’s no surprise that the nigger leftards probably didn’t even know or understand what their globalist elected leaders were planning, but still, it seems that even niggers are waking up.
NO. An education track is the only track. Potential immigrants must be able to complete a degree in four years and must have a job in the field in less than 6 months after they graduate (or prison until they do), the job must be here in the US, and it must be profitable (meaning reasonable income).
If they cannot read English, that automatically weeds them out (which is no different from current citizenship requirements).
They will need to be able to speak english (again, no different).
They will need to show that they can be productive and not a drain on society. (again, no different)
An education track addresses all of these problems and removes the need for work visas.
Did you think that the education would be free? Fuck no. The immigrants have to pay for it. And a place to live. At the same time. That means that only the best come in. These will be people making more than generic middle class incomes.
All the poor immigrants, gone.
All the middle class immigrants, gone.
Almost no immigrants would be able to afford this, immigration drastically down.
We look like we promote education, win.
We get no more deadbeat immigrants, win.
Delays naturalization for at least 4.5 years, win.
Where do you get the idea that the ability of reading and speaking English is part of the current citizenship requirements?
hint: it's not.
When I went through the naturalization process I remember the day of the interview, where I was quite shocked to see other applicants relying on translators to answer the questions for them - seriously : folks who were supposed to have spent at least five years in the country as permanent residents and weren't able to pick up the language in that time - and from what I understand, many didn't bother preparing for the civic exam either (from what I gathered from the dude who conducted my interview and noted how well prepared I was...)
By the way, I agree that it should be a requirement, at the very least. Heck, when I visit a country - even for a short touristic stay - I do make the effort of learning how to say the equivalent of 'hello' and 'thank you' - which already puts me way ahead of most of these immigrants.
If you see someone in the US who cannot speak English and they're doing things that very clearly says that they are a citizen, report them to ICE. If what you say is true, then the US didn't do it's job and they would be deported or at least wrung through a wringer for faking, lying, bribing, whatever on the naturalization process. Heads will roll.
ps and if you mean that having some degree
Did I say "have a degree"? No, I said go through a 4 year degree program. As in "I don't give a shit if you have the equivalent of 16 master's degrees, you go through another 4 year degree. Period."
No, merit based is how well you do. This requires an education and just a passing grade and job acquisition.
And even if this is merit based (which it's not), then "merit based" would not necessarily require an education track while an education track absolutely would. "A is a subset of B"... come on man, this is simple logic that I should expect anyone at random to understand.
If this shit is merit based, then today's standard requirements are merit based since you have to show income, speak English, read English, etc.
But it just sounds like you want to lower the bar, let anyone in. Just like the other fake americans.
We've been flooded with shitskins, why are we even entertaining the idea of ANY immigration? No. The ones here need to go the fuck home before we let ANYONE in, legally or illegally.
I'm a millennial, and I agree with your overall viewpoint. I want to halt ALL immigration for a few years, and adjust the tax rates, adjust the government subsides, military spending, and corporate welfare (if you work full time 40 hours a week you deserve a living wage and should not be entitled to welfare, that shit is basically welfare for McDonalds and Walmart!).
Once we see signs that the middle class is actually growing, fine, let's start TALKING about bringing more people in here. What makes this place special is the resources, wealth, and opportunity, and unless you are a native american, you family probably came here uneducated without much of anything, yet here you are, productive, educated, and contributing.
I think your viewpoint would be more tolerable if you weren't a racist cunt.
You deserve nothing. If a 40hr job doesnt pay enough, stop doing that job and find a better paying job. If you cant find a better job, youre an unskilled nigger and you cant demand a higher pay.
How much you work is irrelevant. Counting working hours is stupid marxist thinking. The only measure that counts is how much you produce. If you produce little during all those hours, you cant demand a higher pay for worthless effort. If you cant make money doing something, you have to stop doing it, not simply demand more money for the same worthless work. No sane employer is going to pay more than you produce.
Then you are literally subsidizing the profits of large corporations that have underpaid employees. Tax payers are paying welfare to people because the corporations aren't paying them enough
There is no such thing as an "underpaid" employee. Every employee is paid as much as he is able to negotiate depending on the value his work is able to provide.
Walmart, for example, made 36 billion dollars in profit in 2016. They have enough money to pay their employees enough so that the tax payers don't have to provide them foodstamps.
I actually believe you. I am quite sure you crawled out of the primordial slime right herein the US. I mean, who the fuck would actually let someone like you in any other way, right? Unfortunately the science says, no.
mralexson ago
Bu-But most third worlders will fail
PsyOp ago
What we really need is a meritocracy as a political system...every politician and political appointee should be scrutinized, up to and including a state-of-the-art polygraph examination, to make sure we have the best people working for us. What we have now is more akin to a kakistocracy.
newoldwave ago
Quite a lot of Americans want no immigrants, legal or not.
BlackSheepBrouhaha ago
It's been 52 years of this bullshit. You can't even talk to your neighbors because they don't speak the same language. Native children are minorities in the schools. 52% of immigrants take public assistance. Commit crime disproportionate to white people. Even worse, we've drained the world of its most intelligent people who can't lead their country if they're leading a business here. The United States is a project of dysgenics on a world scale.
Pointyball ago
Poor Americans are the ones hurt the most by uncontrolled immigration. The immigrants dispossess citizens from low wage jobs by undercutting the wage by working under the table. They additionally strain social welfare programs with the burden of significant additional recipients that are not accounted for when budgets are passed. Every aspect of life for a poor American is made more difficult by illegal immigration.
puggy ago
alternate headline: 80% of black Americans know that unskilled immigrants are taking their jobs (20% are high on crack and don't care)
Dfens ago
85%. Only 15% are on crack or whatever other drug the globalists use to destroy them while making a fast buck.
bakindabacon ago
80% of Americans are not productive enough to qualify for said merit-based immigration. Maybe we should cap citizenship at 300 million and reevaluate everybody's status based on their contributions to this country. If you are a useless feeder and undermine our constitution, shouldn't matter if you were born here or if your parents were citizens, maybe you shouldn't get the protection of our constitution any more.
JonReeeeed ago
Once again, I never voted in this Nation poll telling me what myself and everyone around me thinks
MrHarryReems ago
Since when do politicians give a single shit about what the American people want? They only care about what their donors want.
tame ago
I don't get it. What's racist? You're letting people in based on skills, I don't see how anyone of any race could see that as other than merit-based.
gabimarez56 ago
I think so too.)
PraiseIPU ago
"Technology"
Good job shill.
Dfens ago
Damn these people are a riot. He believes the earth is flat, 5,000 years old, and created by God with dinosaur bones embedded in the rocks, AND owns SynagogueofSatan. Now go figure that one out. They are not bringing their best now, are they folks? They must really think you people are retarded.
weezkitty ago
Good. It makes sense...only bring in people that can contribute to America.
Start deporting the illegals and stop granting H1Bs too
bernitdown ago
Can we deport dumb white people too? If so I'm totally game. Like, if anyone who still believes global warming isn't a thing when it's raining in january and I can't ride my god damn snowmobile, yeah, fuck them, kick them out, I don't want them in the gene pool of our country.
no-hurry-no-pause ago
You dont have to deport them. Just dont let them vote, stop paying welfare to them, and over time their numbers will go down.
Just dont let them vote, or the first thing they will vote for is to increase your taxes and their welfare.
weezkitty ago
I am personally a fan of removing warning labels and letting Mr. Darwin sort it out. But if they are mudsharks, let them go to shithole countries. It would raise the IQ of both countries.
With that said, while I believe that global warming/climate change is real, using individual local weather conditions are not a good indicator of long term averages
Dfens ago
If we had merit based immigration, we wouldn't need H1B visas. That's why the globalists are against it. Notice how all the death threats and race baiting on this thread are from Voat moderators? I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
GoatEmperorTrump ago
I think you’re missing the point - that even Hillary voting Demo moron libtard niggers don’t want the sand nigger/street shitter invasion that we’ve had.
Of course, it’s no surprise that the nigger leftards probably didn’t even know or understand what their globalist elected leaders were planning, but still, it seems that even niggers are waking up.
totes_magotes ago
NO. An education track is the only track. Potential immigrants must be able to complete a degree in four years and must have a job in the field in less than 6 months after they graduate (or prison until they do), the job must be here in the US, and it must be profitable (meaning reasonable income).
An education track addresses all of these problems and removes the need for work visas.
bernitdown ago
Sounds like they'll likely take less pay, which means Timmy McMiddleClass Whitebread is fucked.
totes_magotes ago
Did you think that the education would be free? Fuck no. The immigrants have to pay for it. And a place to live. At the same time. That means that only the best come in. These will be people making more than generic middle class incomes.
All the poor immigrants, gone.
All the middle class immigrants, gone.
Almost no immigrants would be able to afford this, immigration drastically down.
We look like we promote education, win.
We get no more deadbeat immigrants, win.
Delays naturalization for at least 4.5 years, win.
Less jobs of all ranges going to immigrants, win.
I don't see a problem here.
Gargilius ago
Where do you get the idea that the ability of reading and speaking English is part of the current citizenship requirements?
hint: it's not.
When I went through the naturalization process I remember the day of the interview, where I was quite shocked to see other applicants relying on translators to answer the questions for them - seriously : folks who were supposed to have spent at least five years in the country as permanent residents and weren't able to pick up the language in that time - and from what I understand, many didn't bother preparing for the civic exam either (from what I gathered from the dude who conducted my interview and noted how well prepared I was...)
By the way, I agree that it should be a requirement, at the very least. Heck, when I visit a country - even for a short touristic stay - I do make the effort of learning how to say the equivalent of 'hello' and 'thank you' - which already puts me way ahead of most of these immigrants.
totes_magotes ago
Right fucking here: https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/educators/naturalization-information
If you see someone in the US who cannot speak English and they're doing things that very clearly says that they are a citizen, report them to ICE. If what you say is true, then the US didn't do it's job and they would be deported or at least wrung through a wringer for faking, lying, bribing, whatever on the naturalization process. Heads will roll.
Did I say "have a degree"? No, I said go through a 4 year degree program. As in "I don't give a shit if you have the equivalent of 16 master's degrees, you go through another 4 year degree. Period."
Gargilius ago
Good point, but believe me, from personal observation, this is not enforced.
totes_magotes ago
That doesn't mean I'm wrong. Report every one of those fuckers that don't follow the law and requirements.
Dfens ago
Uh, sounds merit based to me.
totes_magotes ago
No, merit based is how well you do. This requires an education and just a passing grade and job acquisition.
And even if this is merit based (which it's not), then "merit based" would not necessarily require an education track while an education track absolutely would. "A is a subset of B"... come on man, this is simple logic that I should expect anyone at random to understand.
If this shit is merit based, then today's standard requirements are merit based since you have to show income, speak English, read English, etc.
But it just sounds like you want to lower the bar, let anyone in. Just like the other fake americans.
Dfens ago
Yeah godammit, I'm trying to lower the bar with merit based immigration. What kind of horrible person does that? LOL!
totes_magotes ago
No habla ingles, motherfucker.
Dfens ago
Yeah, I know.
tendiesonfloor ago
Go back to reddit, you kike-rat shill. Your faggotry doesn't work here.
Behuvius ago
It's always interesting how the liberal shill shadow accounts pop up when someone puts out a post that is so damning against the SJW cause...
Behuvius ago
Seems like we are not alone in our opinion:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/29/poll-americans-support-zero-immigration-more-than-they-support-current-legal-immigration-levels/
Dfens ago
The little Nazi buddies have joined in. Isn’t that cute?
Crensch ago
How about NO immigration?
We've been flooded with shitskins, why are we even entertaining the idea of ANY immigration? No. The ones here need to go the fuck home before we let ANYONE in, legally or illegally.
bernitdown ago
I'm a millennial, and I agree with your overall viewpoint. I want to halt ALL immigration for a few years, and adjust the tax rates, adjust the government subsides, military spending, and corporate welfare (if you work full time 40 hours a week you deserve a living wage and should not be entitled to welfare, that shit is basically welfare for McDonalds and Walmart!).
Once we see signs that the middle class is actually growing, fine, let's start TALKING about bringing more people in here. What makes this place special is the resources, wealth, and opportunity, and unless you are a native american, you family probably came here uneducated without much of anything, yet here you are, productive, educated, and contributing.
I think your viewpoint would be more tolerable if you weren't a racist cunt.
no-hurry-no-pause ago
You deserve nothing. If a 40hr job doesnt pay enough, stop doing that job and find a better paying job. If you cant find a better job, youre an unskilled nigger and you cant demand a higher pay.
How much you work is irrelevant. Counting working hours is stupid marxist thinking. The only measure that counts is how much you produce. If you produce little during all those hours, you cant demand a higher pay for worthless effort. If you cant make money doing something, you have to stop doing it, not simply demand more money for the same worthless work. No sane employer is going to pay more than you produce.
bernitdown ago
Then you are literally subsidizing the profits of large corporations that have underpaid employees. Tax payers are paying welfare to people because the corporations aren't paying them enough
no-hurry-no-pause ago
There is no such thing as an "underpaid" employee. Every employee is paid as much as he is able to negotiate depending on the value his work is able to provide.
They arent worth more than the corps are paying.
bernitdown ago
Not sure how you don't get this:
Walmart, for example, made 36 billion dollars in profit in 2016. They have enough money to pay their employees enough so that the tax payers don't have to provide them foodstamps.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/04/15/report-walmart-workers-cost-taxpayers-6-2-billion-in-public-assistance/#7c001889720b
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2014/04/walmart_employees_on_food_stamps_their_wages_aren_t_enough_to_get_by.html
They are scamming the system by paying them wages that are so low that the tax payers have to pay these people enough to survive.
no-hurry-no-pause ago
They have enough, but the employees arent worth more.
Thats the tax payer problem. They dont have to provide them foodstamps, they can just let them starve.
They dont HAVE to pay. Who is forcing them?
These people dont have to survive.
Crensch ago
Trying NOT to be a racist is the stupidest shit ever conceived. EVERYONE is a racist, whether they admit it or not.
dog_soldier ago
Until there are documented widespread increases in wages in specific fields of say 50%, immigration needs to be shut down.
It's simple. Employers use immigrants to increase the supply of labor and drive down wages.
They've been using this since the 1970s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_wages#/media/File:US_Real_Wages_1964-2004.gif
Corporate profits have gone up at accelerating rates, and workers have been screwed.
Crensch ago
Use one of the suggested imagehosts, please. Linking directly to kikepedia is cancer.
Dfens ago
I vote you “go the fuck home” first. Nazi dipshit!
tendiesonfloor ago
I hope I get to cut your kike-rat throat when this war goes hot.
Dfens ago
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Share Blue never gets tired of losing.
Crensch ago
I am home, Jew.
Dfens ago
I actually believe you. I am quite sure you crawled out of the primordial slime right herein the US. I mean, who the fuck would actually let someone like you in any other way, right? Unfortunately the science says, no.
Crensch ago
If you wanted someone to not take you seriously, you succeeded.
Dfens ago
That's really funny coming from you. If Nazi’s got irony they wouldn’t be Nazi’s though, would they?
Edit: I meant Democrats. Well, Nazi, Democrat, same thing,
Crensch ago
If whites were honest with themselves, and looked at the evidence, Jews would cease to exist.
Whites would put a bounty on your heads, and you'd all be gone in a decade.
Don't worry though, Rabbi, they're waking up.