They probably won't either care or they may have already conquered us.

I have a suspicion that any civilization capable of interstellar travel has abandoned their biological bodies long ago. With that, they may have also abandoned biological purposes.

Well universe had a few billion observable galaxies each contained a few 100 billion stars. How many planet could that be.

No matter how small the odds of life developing on a planet, you roll the die enough times you'll get a yahtzee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvYZA2fO7WA

Radio Signals? Are these aliens from the 50's or some other lame era that they used radio?

There is already a theory that aliens are sending biochemical warfare to Earth via asteroids and comets from the Kupier Belt or beyond.

I agree. what's his address if its nearby I'll take the telescope

Eh. At worst they’ll come in a few thousand years to wipe us out, even if they can travel at light speed(which is a huge assumption) it’d take them thousands of years to receive the signal and begin to move toward us. At best it’s a waste of time and money because it’ll take thousands of years to receive a signal back. There’s no point freaking out now, the sheer size of the universe prevents anything from happening in even our grandchildren’s life time.

Aliens advanced enough to travel here and that have a need for our resources would:

1. Either be coming or on their way anyway.
2. Have the ability to see our planet was inhabited regardless of what we did.

we wuz space kangs n shieet

Entanglement isn't unique to quantum particles. In my explanation the bags are entangled in the literal exact same way the particles are entangled in that experiment.

I've thought about this before, and yes I concur we should be very quiet. At the very least until we field a capable space navy.

The "dangerous" aspect is way over stated. To reach a technology level which would allow for space travel in relatively short spans of time basically means they experience no shortages of energy. I don't want to say infinite energy but it would certainly be measured at the levels of total matter conversion of multiple solar systems and so on. Which means they would care not for energy or resource acquisition. Something like terraforming would be child's play. Additionally, to reach such a technological level would ensure they would more or less be nonviolent. Otherwise they would have likely long since destroyed themselves.

Which basically means the following:

1. They don't care because we don't matter any more than you care to go to the other side of the planet to destroy a specific ant mound.

2. They care and observe. Largely with indifference. Perhaps experiment and/or obtain pets out of curiosity.

3. They care, guide, and play some type of role at some point in time via myth or shadow.

4. Play an active role in our guidance and development.

The 'ol bit about storming across the universe to stomp on ants is borderline mentally insane. No matter how popular the notion or good the movie plot.

Sure you can then pretend that the energy levels are much lower and they use generational ships. But that's even dumber. Who is going to commit generations and relatively large amounts of resources to storm across the universe to stomp on an ant mound they know nothing about? Obviously, no one is going to.

Makes good movies but it's a child's fearful fancy to believe it would be dangerous. Obviously one can't rule out thought process entirely foreign to us which would invalidate the above logic. Regardless, chances are it's nothing but hysteria.

We use bacteria to process ores into concentrates for refineries. May be we are just something else's bio-refinery. What is in abundance here and not abundant in space? Maybe nuclear materials that we are concentrating in nuclear power plants. Most nuclear plants could be removed to space as a unit. What if some alien life from captured a Voyager and liked the power source. (300W of power for 85 years) and came looking for more. What make's mankind think they would even recognize us as sentient beings. I have to agree that contacting aliens is a very misguided anthropomorphic idea.

It’s obvious aliens are already here, and have been for millennia. We are most likely their creation.

Maybe all the advanced species end up emasculated from space soy and giving too much of a speaking platform to purple haired dikes and fat opinionated black women and nothing ever gets done.

Everyone knows we are just mice in a simulation per simulation theory. Humanity is just a rerun on a reality tv show for aliens per 2018 political climate

Project Blue Beam

Yeah, heard that.

By the same people who theorize that the Earth is flat.

It would be Star Trek.

Not dangerous at all. Why?

1) Earth doesn't have any material that is particularly rare in the universe, so we likely wouldn't be conquered for resources.

2) To any civilization that is capable of traveling interstellar distances, we offer no threat or benefit. They would have to be thousands of years in advance of our technology (at minimum; given the length of the stellar age so far, it's more likely that they are millions of years ahead, and billions is not out of the question). They wouldn't come here because we have something to offer them any more than we'd go visit chimps to steal their tech, and our own technical abilities would make it pointless to enslave chimps or destroy them as a potential competitor. If they are capable of destroying us from across the vastness of space, they are just so far beyond us that there's no logical reason to hunt us down.

3) So, perhaps they are stupid and would accidentally destroy us like the Europeans that brought new diseases to the Americas... but again, a civilization would have to know much more about the Universe and be capable of much greater science than us in order to travel interstellar distances. Remember that we have yet to have one human travel to the nearest planet. So it seems to me that this would only be a threat if they wanted to destroy us.

4) So the only reason left that would make them a threat to us is if they had some ideological or instinctual need to just destroy other life or other civilizations, whether it's logical to do so or not. This is possible. But it also makes it pointless to hide.

Our civilization has been massively blasting out radiowaves for a few generations now. Our atmosphere's chemical makeup - which can be analyzed across instellar space by the light that passes through it - strongly suggests massive amounts of life here. The infrared and light radiation pouring from our cities, especially given the fact that this changed very quickly after the industrial revolution, indicates technology.

If aliens were sending out our normal everyday signals from a nearby star system, we could find them even if they weren't targeting signals at us. A highly advanced species, focused on space technology and actively hunting for alien life, would already know about us if they were at a nearby star system. There is no point in hiding.

Is God not an alien? He created our entire universe, right? He doesn't live on Earth, which makes him an extra terrestrial. Does God exist?

depends on your view of the universe. is it a materialistic view? or are there cosmic spiritual laws? this would change the behavior structure of the entities.

materialism based: worst case you get the borg

spiritual based: there's probably already a massive universal hierarchy of spiritual beings, and everyone is given their own time to discover the true nature of such. interfering would be like interfering with the prime directive. in the 'spiritual' view of the universe, there are literal consequences to violating this law

What are they gonna do? Respond with nasty alien words in 600+ years?

Unless we're WAAAAY off regarding the nature of the universe, we're never gonna see aliens face-to-face, unless we go there and don't miss their existence-window because of relativistic time dilation effects.

Even if they sent death-robots at near-relativistic speeds (to avoid time dilation and make your arrival time sooner [from a stationary reference frame]), we'd probably be advanced enough to defend against them by the time the alien-death-robots arrived.

But for argument's sake, let's say the aliens who pick up our transmissions can generate negative energy, or somehow have superluminal travel that avoids relativistic, intertial, and temporal effects. Why would they waste their time and resources on this mudball planet or its backward, ignorant people? the only thing that we have in abundance that seems to be in short supply cosmically is Deuterium, but it can be synthesized sized easily enough. We have no special resources, possess no special knowledge, and produce nothing that an interstellar civilization would want. Beyond that, our location in this galaxy is basically out in the boonies. We're in the Orion Arm, out near the edge of the galactic habitable zone. Are you gonna sail to Easter Island because some dude on HAM Radio was talking about worshipping the wrong god?

Disagree, I would think aliens that could reach our solar system from another galaxy would have virtually limitless energy, the ability to synthesize anything they want, what resources would they really need, oil for their cars because gas prices are going up on their planet? Nah.

Tell many high-level military people that. Tell fighter pilots who fly in cutting edge tech jets who've chased UFO's that. Tell the people of Flatwoods that.

I agree. The people in control are total morons.

Aliens don't exist. Show me one piece of evidence of aliens and not UFOs. I'll wait.

I hate to ruin this for you. Nothing is being teleported. This experiment is identical to if you took 2 bags, put a black block in one of them and a white block in the other, mixed them up, then sent one bag to your friend. Then you look in your bag and you "instantly" know whats in the other bag x miles away. That's literally all it is. Also totally useless.

I have several degrees in biology

Thanks, looking it up it seems like you need to have contact between them unless you utiliese quantum swapping aka quantum teleportation which would require having entangled particles in the first place.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation#Entanglement_swapping

Though I used Wikipedia so maybe that's wrong.

The assumption that they would need to exterminate us in order to maximize the utility of our planet is a bold one. Abos never even slowed down the British use of Australia. The difference between Brits and Abos is likely to be orders of magnitude less than between a multi-stellar creature and humans. They'd probably just do lots of experiments on us.

We will add your collective technological and biological distinctivness to our own,
your culture will adapt to service us.
Ressistance is futile

Alien contact would represent a huge turning point in the course of humanity. I think it's probably impossible to realisticly predict if aliens would be hostle or helpful untill we actually make contact with them since they are by definition alien. You could say that as the technology advances that makes it easier to contact/visit other worlds technology also would make it easier for self destuction, so for a society to advance to the point they would need to be peacful, however that doesn't necessarily apply to being peacful to other worlds.

In short it would be at the discression of aliens what happens to humanity, humanity would essentially be out of the picture, so in a way that is like the destuction of humanity.

It's either (stupid) or (stupid and dangerous) depending on whether or not extrasolar intelligent life actually exists within our galaxy.

The hippies and soyfaces will tell you that advanced extraterrestrial life must be peaceful because only humans can be evil. I've heard this so many times.

I don't think it's an accident that our most beloved domesticated pets are hunting carnivores (wildcats and wolves). Hunting requires more intelligence and cooperation than eating plants. If you can't defend yourself empathy is a burden. If you're a bunny running away and your friend gets attacked trying to help will only end with you providing another meal and leads to your genes dying out.

But I think these people despise humanity so much they might even look forward to it's eradication or enslavement.

As a sidenote look up the "fermi-paradox", it deals with the question for why we haven't met alien life yet and the theoretical answers are quite interesting and often times related to this discussion.

Oh how true! Just look at the official and unofficial Egypt stories. Vastly different and yet the crazy make more sense.

No worries, aliens do not exist.

For quantum entanglement don't you need or at the least with our current technology/understanding, have to have the particals next to each other to entange them? That would limit it as a mean to instantly transmit the data since they would have to sent s physical craft limited by light speed first. Though a drone ship could reach the destination have a quantum entanglement communication device and send information, and potentially digitized concousness or artificial life forms. Or could carry a grey matter converter with it wich could supply the resources necessary to create the fleet and the receiver to send instructions/digitized concousness.

Space folding or wormholes are probably more likely as a means of intergalactic travel. Which if fesable would shorten the trip time of the drone ship.

Radio waves travel at a rate of approx 185 miles per second, the nearest star is Alpha Centauri C a red dwarf, small low-mass star, about 25 trillion miles away likely having nothing around it. Regardless, a radio wave which would be incomprehensible to anyone receiving it were they listening. Assuming the waves aren't obscured by anything, distorted, reflected, or disturbed. Would take:

(25 * 10^12) / (185 * 60 * 60 * 12 * 365) = 8,570+ years.

So it'll get there about 430 generations from now. Hopefully by then we might have come up with a better idea. Shooting radio waves into space is eggheads taking advantage of dumber people, and collecting grants.

Outer space doesnt exist. The wandering stars are objects inside the firmament.

You really shouldn't worry all that much. Thanks to the inverse square law, any signal we send dissipates to background radiation by the time it could get anywhere. This is also why there's functionally zero risk of any of our signals ever telling an alien species "we are here". All of those huge radio signal stations are a complete waste of time and finances, since we'd not only have to already know an exact planet to target but expend more energy than our entire planet can currently produce to hit it with a signal that wouldn't be decayed by benefit of that law.

Basically, it's a wash. It's almost guaranteed no civilization anywhere near our tech level can contact anybody, ourselves included, and any civilization that COULD would be indistinguishable from magic. Meaning they can either find us anyway, or don't care to find anybody or be found.

VOAT IS SHADOWBANNING!!! I HAVE A COMMENT IN THIS THREAD THAT ISNT SHOWING UP!!

Nobody has mentioned this yet, so, let’s not forget we have been broadcasting our existence since Marconi and we have leave it to Beaver broadcasts being transmitted across the universe.

So, focusing a more intelligent broadcast makes no difference.

So, we have to end all radio, television, and mobile transmissions and should be stopped.

Oh right! Don’t forget those fucking probes we have been sending out and sending us pictures of Pluto and shit!

Some idiot in here thought that our marines could handle the aliens. Too much Hollywood.

Sumer has recorded the history of Aliens altering our DNA.

No fiction here unless you include the Bible in that genre.

Winning the powerball is a fantasy according to you too.

Where does it state that God only made one set of beings?

God created everything. So, with mathematics that he created the odds of life existing is better than winning the power ball.

Panspermia is very interesting but it just pushes the question of the origin of life one step back. Abiogenesis is still necessary, just on another planet.

Our transmissions have been going into space for years. They will never try to conquer us. We have Batman, Superman, the Avengers, the X-Men, Aquaman, the Power Rangers, dinosaurs, and Teletubbies.

And Godzilla.

We have enough of our own problems and they don't want a piece of any of it.

truth! guys think about it, Before the JEW media told you about aliens. what would we call these "aliens" DEMONS! what they have been called for centuries. Hell is real, Demons are real, Possessions are real, Angels are real. GOD created everything. I won't say God didn't create other beings somewhere, because thats putting limits on God and God is Limitless. But I think IF God did, he would have made them in another dimension / reality, Separate from ours.

Pretty bold assertion there considering the number of stars and planets.

Considering there's a good chance there's was/is life on two planets in our solar system alone.

Aliens have probably checked out Earth in the past, saw all of the niggers/shitskins and noped the fuck out.

Remove the "dangerous" part. Attempting to contact Aliens plainly is stupid because the sheer size of the universe means that we a) are unlikely to ever find any (even if there should be plentiful different Alien races) and b) they would only to pick up the signal decades if not several thousand of years after it was first sent. So, even if we accidentally manage to get the attention of a very warlike race, chances are that humanity has nuked itself into oblivion already by the time they get here.

I believe you are positively mentally retarded.

I tend to agree with you, but I believe the possibility exists.