I think they botched their communist revolution because they had too many cooks in the kitchen.
Think about the influences acting on leftists and normies and their separate goals. Jews, so many flavors of heeb cultural dictation, jews have each others backs but they have different sorts with different goals the two biggest are the leeches like Netanyahu who want to suck our nations blood without alerting us but take us much as possible, he wants an anemic america that he can drain perpetually, other jews are like flees and mosquitos they make a bunch of noise or they leave itchy bites, they aren't concerned with sustainability they want to bleed us dry and make our nation deathly ill, they want dead goyim. Those are just the big jews, then you get rogue billionaires many of whom are yids trying to impose unstable changes or force us into civil war for their profit and vengeance but also to cause communism. Then you've got our international rivals many of whom trump has made desperate and want us to collapse before they do so we'll stagger and take our boots of their necks, sanctions and economic challenges would be lifted if we cant enforce them while were fighting at home. Then "grass roots" groups the product of old soviet subversion essentially the KGB's ideological zombie time bomb is going off.
Essentially desperate dems and jews have been pushing us to the brink as a part of brinkmanship but the chinese having their worst year this century and maybe for 50 years and they are trying to push us off the cliff so they can snatch world dominance while we infight and recover.
Then you've got our international rivals many of whom trump has made desperate and want us to collapse before they do so we'll stagger and take our boots of their necks, sanctions and economic challenges would be lifted if we cant enforce them while were fighting at home.
We should not be wasting our diplomatic strength on Iran. I wish Trump would see that.
I think that he somewhat does. I personally hold Iran in the same camp as Russia. Minor threats both. But good opportunities to kick either down the hill should not be wasted, methinks.
I see Iran as a huge potential ally. The only reason we “officially” hate them is because they took our embassy workers hostage after we imposed the Shah and fucked with their elections.
The real reason we hate them is because they’re one of the last nations in the middle east that refuses to stand down to Israel, and our zionists overlords can’t stand that so they keep dragging us into conflict. There were talks about bombing Iran in 2008 on the Republican debate stage. Ron Paul brought reason back.
The people are not extremists, radicals, terorrists, or any number of things we want to call them. It’s a beautiful country filled with educated well-intentioned people.
The real reason we hate them is because they’re one of the last nations in the middle east that refuses to stand down to Israel
Yeah I used to think that too. My belief was based upon an assumption that anyone that the Jews hate must be good, until I realized that Iran doesn't really have our best interests at heart. Their leadership truly does hate us.
In the same way that the Taliban was never truly going to be on our side.
I believe that. The Islamic Revolution was in response to the Shah. They hate us because we are puppets to Israel, which has been proven time and time and time again. The shit slinging that has happened from the U.S. towards Iran over the decades is not going to go unnoticed, and the impetus is on us to correct those wrongs, which I doubt will happen, because we cannot acknowledge mistakes.
But I think that the globe has spun around one more radian since what you said was fundamentally correct. I think that Iran used to care about religious orthodoxy or anti-Zionism as you claim at some point. However I think that by now their process has evolved to the point where their policies center more around access to oil, access to minerals, food production, and copyright. In other words I think that they want a seat at the big kid's table. IMHO they are a bigger player than Israel.
I’m afraid I don’t agree with anything you just said.
I don’t think Iran ever cared about religious orthodoxy, but that religious orthodoxy took hold in response to the U.S. meddling in the elections. All I see of Iran is a relatively secular yet definitively eastern society in a beautiful country.
Iran remains one of the last holdouts to U.S. and Israeli control/dominance. It’s why there was discussions about bombing Iran preemptively at the 2008 republican debate stage, a completely ridiculous exercise in appealing to Israeli power brokers.
I don’t think Iran has particularly huge aspirations other than to achieve what they are capable of, similar to other nations in the middle east, yet the U.S. continues to keep its foot on Iran, essentially forcing them to find economy wherever they can.
I think Iran could be a tangibly great ally in the U.S. and if we were to fully leverage that, would ensure the petrodollar well into the future.
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Obrez ago
I think they botched their communist revolution because they had too many cooks in the kitchen.
Think about the influences acting on leftists and normies and their separate goals. Jews, so many flavors of heeb cultural dictation, jews have each others backs but they have different sorts with different goals the two biggest are the leeches like Netanyahu who want to suck our nations blood without alerting us but take us much as possible, he wants an anemic america that he can drain perpetually, other jews are like flees and mosquitos they make a bunch of noise or they leave itchy bites, they aren't concerned with sustainability they want to bleed us dry and make our nation deathly ill, they want dead goyim. Those are just the big jews, then you get rogue billionaires many of whom are yids trying to impose unstable changes or force us into civil war for their profit and vengeance but also to cause communism. Then you've got our international rivals many of whom trump has made desperate and want us to collapse before they do so we'll stagger and take our boots of their necks, sanctions and economic challenges would be lifted if we cant enforce them while were fighting at home. Then "grass roots" groups the product of old soviet subversion essentially the KGB's ideological zombie time bomb is going off.
Essentially desperate dems and jews have been pushing us to the brink as a part of brinkmanship but the chinese having their worst year this century and maybe for 50 years and they are trying to push us off the cliff so they can snatch world dominance while we infight and recover.
FriedChicken ago
We should not be wasting our diplomatic strength on Iran. I wish Trump would see that.
andrew_jackson ago
I think that he somewhat does. I personally hold Iran in the same camp as Russia. Minor threats both. But good opportunities to kick either down the hill should not be wasted, methinks.
FriedChicken ago
I see Iran as a huge potential ally. The only reason we “officially” hate them is because they took our embassy workers hostage after we imposed the Shah and fucked with their elections.
The real reason we hate them is because they’re one of the last nations in the middle east that refuses to stand down to Israel, and our zionists overlords can’t stand that so they keep dragging us into conflict. There were talks about bombing Iran in 2008 on the Republican debate stage. Ron Paul brought reason back.
The people are not extremists, radicals, terorrists, or any number of things we want to call them. It’s a beautiful country filled with educated well-intentioned people.
andrew_jackson ago
Yeah I used to think that too. My belief was based upon an assumption that anyone that the Jews hate must be good, until I realized that Iran doesn't really have our best interests at heart. Their leadership truly does hate us.
In the same way that the Taliban was never truly going to be on our side.
FriedChicken ago
I believe that. The Islamic Revolution was in response to the Shah. They hate us because we are puppets to Israel, which has been proven time and time and time again. The shit slinging that has happened from the U.S. towards Iran over the decades is not going to go unnoticed, and the impetus is on us to correct those wrongs, which I doubt will happen, because we cannot acknowledge mistakes.
andrew_jackson ago
But I think that the globe has spun around one more radian since what you said was fundamentally correct. I think that Iran used to care about religious orthodoxy or anti-Zionism as you claim at some point. However I think that by now their process has evolved to the point where their policies center more around access to oil, access to minerals, food production, and copyright. In other words I think that they want a seat at the big kid's table. IMHO they are a bigger player than Israel.
FriedChicken ago
I’m afraid I don’t agree with anything you just said.
I don’t think Iran ever cared about religious orthodoxy, but that religious orthodoxy took hold in response to the U.S. meddling in the elections. All I see of Iran is a relatively secular yet definitively eastern society in a beautiful country.
Iran remains one of the last holdouts to U.S. and Israeli control/dominance. It’s why there was discussions about bombing Iran preemptively at the 2008 republican debate stage, a completely ridiculous exercise in appealing to Israeli power brokers.
I don’t think Iran has particularly huge aspirations other than to achieve what they are capable of, similar to other nations in the middle east, yet the U.S. continues to keep its foot on Iran, essentially forcing them to find economy wherever they can.
I think Iran could be a tangibly great ally in the U.S. and if we were to fully leverage that, would ensure the petrodollar well into the future.
Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbjVrm6XS_A