Which just goes to show there's really no such thing as a good Jew. Just as there's no such thing as a good nigger, taco-nigger, sand-nigger, etc; white nations for white people ONLY, EVER.
You would think at all these questionnaires he does he isn't asked why Israel bans Africans and bans Jews who sleep with migrants? His whole 30K a talk world would flip upside down on him. Or would it be the questioner who's world is flipped for being anti-Semitic somehow?
Ideology is what matters! It’s only a matter of time parents will be gene splicing their kids to be white, and then after that, people will change their skin tones like their hair colors.
Where does Shapiro think ideology comes from? It comes from race, Shapiro, and from religion, which is itself an expression of race. Arab Muslims are not like us -- they cannot replace us; things will change for the worse.
oy vey Ben is right!! Us whites don't have any culture so we should embrace different brown people from allll over the world haha. We don't want to be a bunch of backward redneck hicks, do we, my fellow white people?
He might be right in the disingenuous argument he created, but if your aunt had a dick, she'd be your uncle. An ultra-rare exception like Thomas Sowell is a statistical fluke.
He isn't saying he doesn't care. His position is the same as Trump. Doesn't care what color they are but they better have something of value to offer the nation and they need to be compatible with our values as a nation. Fucking retards here like to use a snippet out of context to prove their Jew boogie man conspiracy bullshit all of the time.
Jews are good at manipulating language. They are not so good at reasoning, and they have zero regard for the truth, which is why they use rhetorical tricks to "win" debates, and why they make effective lawyers.
It's almost like he thinks of you are religious of any religion you should marry within your religion because it impacts your values and reduces turbulence raising kids. As he has said dozens of times.
So why one rule for thee but not ne? Why promote race mixing? Biracial children are ostracized from both sides and are a significant source of embarrassment for the rest of the child's family. White genes in particular get scrubbed out in such cases and the rare and unique european features obscured . White people want kids who look like them. White women who have mongrel babies end up raising them alone most of the time, and single mothers have devastating effects on child development.
I wish could agree with your first statement - I really do. But the reality is that culture is intrinsic to race, and the best evidence we currently have from every western society suggests non-whites think and behave differently than whites, even after multiple generations in their host country.
Whites since the sixties thought that the ideal would be "to not see race". No other race besides white ever believed that and now we see it as a failed policy.
I don't even think whites believed it. The Jews pushed it on whites, and whites pasively went along with it, because it sounded nice and, after all, what harm could it do? Well, forty years later, we see what harm it could do.
But that's not the argument he made. He said skin color doesn't matter, ideology does. Who would you prefer keep company with, this white person or this black person?
This very much implies that there is no relationship between "skin color" and ideology and that we can know that for certain.
Who would you prefer keep company with
I'd strongly prefer thomas sowell. But that is irrelevant when we discuss "the browning of america".
When I state that women are shorter than men I'm fully aware that most women will be higher than Peter Dinklage. Anyone with common sense will understand that I'm talking about the average height of women compared to men.
Everyone understands this when we talk about the height difference between women and men. But when it comes to race or any other difference among the sexes everyone suddenly loses all common sense.
I was offering a proof by counter-example. A single outlier is all it takes.
If I gave you this formula and asked you to simplify it, you might look at several data-points and come to the wrong conclusion:
y = -120 x + 274 x^2 - 225 x^3 + 85 x^4 - 15 x^5 + x^6
When x = 0, y = 0.
When x = 1, y = 1.
When x = 2, y = 2.
When x = 3, y = 3.
When x = 4, y = 4.
When x = 5, y = 5.
You look at that and you say "why, this is just a complex version of y = x" but you'd be wrong. When x = 6, y = 720. One counterexample is all it takes to disprove a wrong theory. If your theory is "race matters more than ideology", then I provided a pretty compelling counter-example.
His argument is valid - decisions of association are made on the individual level, outside of the domain of averages or related statistical appliances. Statistical understandings are useful in aggregate, when understanding populations, and as 'placeholder' information (when meeting a new individual) until better information is known (this is fuzzy logic as applied to relations, which I haven't finished writing on).
For personal company that is true. I like Sowell and would prefer his company over hillary's.
When it comes to the "browning of america" and anything that is related to this, that is immigration laws and laws that influence birth rates (like wealth redistribution), than statistics are more important.
You're missing the trees for the forest, though, which was the entire point Ben Shapiro was making. The "browning of America" is just generalizations made by people who aren't rational enough to recognize that groups are just made of us much more nuanced individuals. In almost every group there are good and bad, and depending upon how you slice that group (green eyes, left handed, raised with access to the internet...) will likely change the statistics.
Correlation is obvious to anyone with objective data and a couple dozen IQ points. The point Ben Shapiro was making was that you can get MUCH better "quality groups" (that is: good groups like Sowell and Hayek, and bad groups like Clinton and AOC) by doing your groupings on ideology instead of skin tone.
Plus you'll win over more moderates by not falling into the simpleton argument of a race war when this has always been one of minds.
and depending upon how you slice that group (green eyes, left handed, raised with access to the internet...) will likely change the statistics.
Can you prove that the correlation with access to internet is on par with biology / race?
It seems like you believe that race is completely arbitrary. Do you believe this to be the case or do you KNOW this to be the case? Because you are arguing as if you happen to know this to be the case.
you can get MUCH better "quality groups" by doing your groupings on ideology instead of skin tone.
If two people of extraordinarily height or intelligence have children those will inherit traits not only from their parents but also grandparents and grand-grandparents... Which means that they will be less extraordinaire and more like everyone else from wherever they come from.
In almost every group there are good and bad, and depending upon how you slice that group
Do you believe that incest can cause damage and that generations of incest can cause lasting damage?
I ask because marriage among relative is so common that it has it's own wikipedia article:
Now if you take someone who is healthy and has average intelligence from such a country, do you think his children might be more likely to have hereditary diseases?
Because you probably know that if your grandparents had a genetic disease and you happen to be healthy that your children still have higher risk.
Plus you'll win over more moderates by not falling into the simpleton argument of a race war when this has always been one of minds.
Japan is very homogenous and it is not in a race war. It simply has strict immigration policies. Israel also has some strict immigration policies and a strong border...
Do you think these countries are filled with simpletons?
Japan is very homogenous and it is not in a race war. It simply has strict immigration policies. Israel also has some strict immigration policies and a strong border...
Immigration policies are fine. But the rest of your post is just a straw man: this whole thread is about Ben Shapiro pointing out that race isn't what you should worry about, ideology is. If your immigration policy was "do you have a 120+ IQ?" you would yield "better" results than "are you white?".
If your immigration policy was "do you have a 120+ IQ?" you would yield "better" results than "are you white?".
What about their children? What if they end up more like their grandparents?
For example in the UK young moslems are more radical than their parents. And not just slightly more radical, 36% of them think that executing someone for blasphemy is acceptable.
"According to a 2007 poll conducted by the PolicyExchange think tank in Britain, nearly 60% said they would prefer to live under British law, while 37% of 16- to 24-year-olds said they would prefer sharia law, against 17% of those over 55.[39] Also 36% of 16- to 24-year-olds British Muslims believed that those converting to another religion should be executed. Less than a fifth of those over 55 think so."
She (the wife) might be Sephardic jewess (perhaps she's a "beard" as they used to call it, because I always thought the dude was a fag).
But anyway jews like Shapiro obviously know it requires a certain level of intellect and cultural development to maintain society organized on ideological principles, which most browns and blacks are unable to do. As long as the jewish nation survives, Shapiro and his ilk don't give a shit about the destruction of the West and its inheritance.
kaonashiii ago
I'd love to debate this guy; I wouldn't let him fucking talk over me either.
JerkSock ago
Meanwhile, they don't even share ideology either. Fuck this guy.
maxoverdrive ago
Which just goes to show there's really no such thing as a good Jew. Just as there's no such thing as a good nigger, taco-nigger, sand-nigger, etc; white nations for white people ONLY, EVER.
Neverendingpissstory ago
You would think at all these questionnaires he does he isn't asked why Israel bans Africans and bans Jews who sleep with migrants? His whole 30K a talk world would flip upside down on him. Or would it be the questioner who's world is flipped for being anti-Semitic somehow?
Cathat ago
Ideology is what matters! It’s only a matter of time parents will be gene splicing their kids to be white, and then after that, people will change their skin tones like their hair colors.
ToxicWhiteMale ago
Shapiro only cares about Judaism and Capitalism..........interesting
ardvarcus ago
Where does Shapiro think ideology comes from? It comes from race, Shapiro, and from religion, which is itself an expression of race. Arab Muslims are not like us -- they cannot replace us; things will change for the worse.
Kirbyrambo ago
Take my advise===don't listen to them
buggermeevenharder ago
I'd like to believe that, but Democrats keep insisting that color is the only thing that matters.
thebearfromstartrack ago
Color is NOT the issue. RACE is the issue. It DOES matter.
NosebergShekelman ago
oy vey Ben is right!! Us whites don't have any culture so we should embrace different brown people from allll over the world haha. We don't want to be a bunch of backward redneck hicks, do we, my fellow white people?
sosat_menya_reddit ago
The more I herd about this jew scumbag the less I like him. Why is he a “thing”?
ninjajunkie ago
That's why you nail that little hat to his head. So everyone will know.
Banned4Truth ago
Color doesn't matter, ideology does
e pluribus unum
You racist fucks
lordvain2 ago
My fellow white people..
StudSupreme ago
Ben Shapiro has a point.
If all blaques were like Thomas Sowell, the blaques would be the most law abiding and productive demographic in America.
Shapiro is right.
Hand_of_Node ago
He might be right in the disingenuous argument he created, but if your aunt had a dick, she'd be your uncle. An ultra-rare exception like Thomas Sowell is a statistical fluke.
BentAxel ago
No he cares about ratings and money.
speedisavirus ago
It's almost like you retarded faggots continously take this out of context
Hand_of_Node ago
What's the right context?
speedisavirus ago
He isn't saying he doesn't care. His position is the same as Trump. Doesn't care what color they are but they better have something of value to offer the nation and they need to be compatible with our values as a nation. Fucking retards here like to use a snippet out of context to prove their Jew boogie man conspiracy bullshit all of the time.
Hand_of_Node ago
But this is the context. Jews want to flood the US with non-Whites. What they "have to offer" is a dilution of our Whiteness.
speedisavirus ago
I see you are low IQ.
OhRutherfordBehave ago
"European" is a misnomer.
Legalize-Murder ago
Being 100 percent jew is like saying you're 100 percent mongrel.
MockingDead ago
Ask him to brown isreal.
Scheming_Merchant ago
Oy vey! No, Israel must remain pure! We must preserve our race, and ensure a future for Jewish children. You goyim wouldn't understand!
NosebergShekelman ago
HEY!! I was gonna say that! oy vey
edgydude69 ago
I listened to his latest podcast. Spreading lies about the Christchurch attack. I’m disappointed.
Goys-R-Us ago
He is a useless jew. He's not that smart. I don't know why anyone listens to that nasally voiced little yid.
ardvarcus ago
Jews are good at manipulating language. They are not so good at reasoning, and they have zero regard for the truth, which is why they use rhetorical tricks to "win" debates, and why they make effective lawyers.
Goys-R-Us ago
Yep. Also they will argue to the death over the most trivial minutia.
0rion ago
Did you honestly expect anything different though?
edgydude69 ago
To be honest I didn’t. I’m so full of hope that we won’t be shafted by greedy media personalities one more time. Yet it just keeps happening.
Alpha-As-Fuck ago
OPEN BORDERS FOR ISRAEL!
YamaMaya ago
I bet he married jewish and made little jewlets. How can he honestly be so hypocritical?
speedisavirus ago
It's almost like he thinks of you are religious of any religion you should marry within your religion because it impacts your values and reduces turbulence raising kids. As he has said dozens of times.
YamaMaya ago
So why one rule for thee but not ne? Why promote race mixing? Biracial children are ostracized from both sides and are a significant source of embarrassment for the rest of the child's family. White genes in particular get scrubbed out in such cases and the rare and unique european features obscured . White people want kids who look like them. White women who have mongrel babies end up raising them alone most of the time, and single mothers have devastating effects on child development.
speedisavirus ago
He doesn't. You people are really grasping for anything you can. You retards can't tell the difference from an observant Jew and a "Hollywood" Jew.
Brawndosaurus ago
You people?
Ok yid, enough.
YamaMaya ago
He supports Israel you tard. Whatever. Enjoy the jewish dick in your mouth.
Turkeypotato ago
It's annoying how all the college and young conservative praise this guy. But they're all typical jew loving degenerates.
1Sorry_SOB ago
He is a dead end. They should eventually realize that.
newoldwave ago
He ain't wrong, but many time color goes along with ideology.
HAESisalie ago
Yes, he is.
gerberlyfe ago
He is wrong.
fuckingawesomePOTUS ago
I don't give a good goddamn about it either. I care how people live, think and behave as individuals.
Freedom requires freedom of choice, thought, and action.
Tallest_Skil ago
Civic nationalism is treason.
LordHuggington ago
I wish could agree with your first statement - I really do. But the reality is that culture is intrinsic to race, and the best evidence we currently have from every western society suggests non-whites think and behave differently than whites, even after multiple generations in their host country.
TheSeer ago
Is society a racial construct? Or is race a social construct? Are we even allowed to ask?
NarrativeControl ago
Race is ethnicity + culture. Anything else is postmodernist crap.
TheSeer ago
You don't believe in postmodernism? What are you, some kinda extremist?
LordHuggington ago
Definitely both, as they both can be argued for. You're always allowed to ask questions.
Tallest_Skil ago
Uh… no. By definition, race is not a social construct.
goatmensch ago
Race divides voters just as much as ideology does. Race may even determine which ideology is the majority within different races.
1Sorry_SOB ago
Whites since the sixties thought that the ideal would be "to not see race". No other race besides white ever believed that and now we see it as a failed policy.
ardvarcus ago
I don't even think whites believed it. The Jews pushed it on whites, and whites pasively went along with it, because it sounded nice and, after all, what harm could it do? Well, forty years later, we see what harm it could do.
FatBruceWillis ago
Ben Shapiro the Zionist Jew,
Supports an Ethnostate for him, But not for you.
ianadba ago
I loves me my conservative jew radio station KTTH. All jew all the time.
Pubiclouse ago
This
TheSeer ago
Even his initials are BS.
majb ago
On some days it is the simplest of comments that make me smile.
FatBruceWillis ago
Pretending racial differences are only skin color is a kike lie.
jewsbadnews ago
GOOGLE ALBINO BLACKS
Bing11 ago
But that's not the argument he made. He said skin color doesn't matter, ideology does. Who would you prefer keep company with, this white person or this black person?
meow_cow ago
There are a lot of actual Nazis on this site. Nazis aren't small government conservatives.
llegendary ago
I'd personally keep the top 10% to the right of the black bell curve and give up the last 10% of the white bell curve.
Bing11 ago
Which is exactly Ben Shapiro's point. Ideology matters, not race.
llegendary ago
I have to admit I do have some ashkenazi genetics. not much but its there.
VoatsNewfag ago
This very much implies that there is no relationship between "skin color" and ideology and that we can know that for certain.
I'd strongly prefer thomas sowell. But that is irrelevant when we discuss "the browning of america".
When I state that women are shorter than men I'm fully aware that most women will be higher than Peter Dinklage. Anyone with common sense will understand that I'm talking about the average height of women compared to men.
Everyone understands this when we talk about the height difference between women and men. But when it comes to race or any other difference among the sexes everyone suddenly loses all common sense.
FatBruceWillis ago
A pig wearing lipstick is correct twice in the hand; outliers are not the norm.
Bing11 ago
I was offering a proof by counter-example. A single outlier is all it takes.
If I gave you this formula and asked you to simplify it, you might look at several data-points and come to the wrong conclusion:
y = -120 x + 274 x^2 - 225 x^3 + 85 x^4 - 15 x^5 + x^6
When x = 0, y = 0. When x = 1, y = 1. When x = 2, y = 2. When x = 3, y = 3. When x = 4, y = 4. When x = 5, y = 5.
You look at that and you say "why, this is just a complex version of y = x" but you'd be wrong. When x = 6, y = 720. One counterexample is all it takes to disprove a wrong theory. If your theory is "race matters more than ideology", then I provided a pretty compelling counter-example.
FatBruceWillis ago
Your example was shit so are you. Your math is fake. User some real sociological data if you want to create a proof.
Bing11 ago
Huh, you don't understand the meaning of the word "proof". You're not exactly a good example of superiority.](http://anewdomain.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Screen-Shot-2015-08-25-at-12.28.14-AM.png)
FatBruceWillis ago
I'm not falling for your hypnotism. Math was invented by Muslims and promoted by Jews.
alele-opathic ago
His argument is valid - decisions of association are made on the individual level, outside of the domain of averages or related statistical appliances. Statistical understandings are useful in aggregate, when understanding populations, and as 'placeholder' information (when meeting a new individual) until better information is known (this is fuzzy logic as applied to relations, which I haven't finished writing on).
VoatsNewfag ago
For personal company that is true. I like Sowell and would prefer his company over hillary's.
When it comes to the "browning of america" and anything that is related to this, that is immigration laws and laws that influence birth rates (like wealth redistribution), than statistics are more important.
Bing11 ago
You're missing the trees for the forest, though, which was the entire point Ben Shapiro was making. The "browning of America" is just generalizations made by people who aren't rational enough to recognize that groups are just made of us much more nuanced individuals. In almost every group there are good and bad, and depending upon how you slice that group (green eyes, left handed, raised with access to the internet...) will likely change the statistics.
Correlation is obvious to anyone with objective data and a couple dozen IQ points. The point Ben Shapiro was making was that you can get MUCH better "quality groups" (that is: good groups like Sowell and Hayek, and bad groups like Clinton and AOC) by doing your groupings on ideology instead of skin tone.
Plus you'll win over more moderates by not falling into the simpleton argument of a race war when this has always been one of minds.
VoatsNewfag ago
Can you prove that the correlation with access to internet is on par with biology / race?
It seems like you believe that race is completely arbitrary. Do you believe this to be the case or do you KNOW this to be the case? Because you are arguing as if you happen to know this to be the case.
How do you account for the Regression towards the mean? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_toward_the_mean
If two people of extraordinarily height or intelligence have children those will inherit traits not only from their parents but also grandparents and grand-grandparents... Which means that they will be less extraordinaire and more like everyone else from wherever they come from.
Do you believe that incest can cause damage and that generations of incest can cause lasting damage?
I ask because marriage among relative is so common that it has it's own wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_in_the_Middle_East
According to that article in some islamic countries more than every second marriage is among relatives and has been for a while.
And according to their own health institutes arabs have the most genetic health problems. This once again has it's own wikipedia article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Arabs
Now if you take someone who is healthy and has average intelligence from such a country, do you think his children might be more likely to have hereditary diseases?
Because you probably know that if your grandparents had a genetic disease and you happen to be healthy that your children still have higher risk.
Japan is very homogenous and it is not in a race war. It simply has strict immigration policies. Israel also has some strict immigration policies and a strong border...
Do you think these countries are filled with simpletons?
Bing11 ago
Immigration policies are fine. But the rest of your post is just a straw man: this whole thread is about Ben Shapiro pointing out that race isn't what you should worry about, ideology is. If your immigration policy was "do you have a 120+ IQ?" you would yield "better" results than "are you white?".
VoatsNewfag ago
What about their children? What if they end up more like their grandparents?
For example in the UK young moslems are more radical than their parents. And not just slightly more radical, 36% of them think that executing someone for blasphemy is acceptable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_attitudes_toward_terrorism
"According to a 2007 poll conducted by the PolicyExchange think tank in Britain, nearly 60% said they would prefer to live under British law, while 37% of 16- to 24-year-olds said they would prefer sharia law, against 17% of those over 55.[39] Also 36% of 16- to 24-year-olds British Muslims believed that those converting to another religion should be executed. Less than a fifth of those over 55 think so."
gerberlyfe ago
The most insidious and destructive lie ever told.
Tallest_Skil ago
Nah, that’s the holocaust.
mememeyou ago
Ben Shapiro's behavior, look at his wife "She belongs to a Jewish Morrocon family.".
enginedriver13 ago
She (the wife) might be Sephardic jewess (perhaps she's a "beard" as they used to call it, because I always thought the dude was a fag).
But anyway jews like Shapiro obviously know it requires a certain level of intellect and cultural development to maintain society organized on ideological principles, which most browns and blacks are unable to do. As long as the jewish nation survives, Shapiro and his ilk don't give a shit about the destruction of the West and its inheritance.