Update regarding the militia response initiative to the caravan of criminals headed for our southern border: (politics)

submitted ago by TexasVet

If any of you are members of, or know anyone that is involved in, a militia have them contact me on Gab as @TexasVet or at TexasVet at ProtonMail dot com. I am already in communication with the Minutemen and a few other militias. We need to get these militia leaders on Gab so that I can create a private chatroom for them. If we could get the militia leaders into a chat on Gab, we could start organizing the logistics of making a stand to defend our southern border.

Now go post this idea to your other social media platforms and lets seize this historical moment to send a message to Washington and the world that America will actually defend itself from foreign invaders!

JohnRyder61 ago

It's a catch 22 that I doubt any of us expected to ever live through in our lifetimes. Just like the 1930's in Germany, they were more afraid of the short-term consequences from the Gestapo than what would ultimately be the loss of their entire country to the Soviet rape machine. The consequences of not defending our border are truly horrific considering how rapidly identity politics has grown to now openly call for things like "ending whiteness." If people don't think those are not threats of future genocide, then I suggest you read about what happened on college campuses during the 1930's in Germany. Ultimately, the question is, how long will people continue to remain silent and passive as our country is stripped away piece by piece?

autism_speaks ago

yup. alot of property owners down there don't want 2k+ illegals storming their property... you militia folk are probably gonna have to answer their call.. get permission to help them, and all that jazz. god bless you Americans.

pauly_pants ago

What is the expected path of this group of people?

12365381? ago

Are there sixtyyyyy Minutemen?

'Cause I don't want no one Minuteman!

CheeseboogersGhost ago

Make sure none of these militias are ran by jews.

Crexus ago

There are over 20 million such guests in our country already and ya'll are going to flip out over 5,000 more? Let them pass. Things are going to have to get much worse before the middle of America decides open borders isn't such a great idea.

If even one of them is shot or harassed or detained by a redneck with a gun, the whole world will jump on it as "Genocide on the American border!" This is a no-win scenario.

jack_burns ago

Middle America is already swamped, cities across the midwest. So, you probably a troll taking a piss.

Crexus ago

So what do you propose be done? Armed resistance at the border? Guns pointed at women and children? Do you think that the press will be in any way, shape, or form, sympathetic to any clashes?

ihavenocomment ago

FEED THEM. Why not welcome them at the border with sandwiches and treats? Just make sure that the lunch you provide doesn't become tainted with some sort of poisoning or bioweapon. Make sure there's no salmonella or any other bacteria in the lunch meat. No need to use arms when you can feed these poor starving suffering people a nice meal. :)

ProgNaziGator ago

Need to handle this in a way that redpills normies.

KosherHiveKicker ago

TY for this update.

I will upvoat your efforts to keep us informed.

Dysnomia ago

Stupid fucking cowards.

Intelligent and brave patriots would busy themselves with the wealthy and venemous snakes occupying your government and desecrating your constitution instead of falling for this pathetic ploy to terrorize you with destitute and unarmed migrants.

Fucking pathetic.

A_Real_Cause ago

Who knew there was more than one aspect to being in a position of leadership you fucking shill. Imagine the burden on the president. welcome to adulthood.

Dysnomia ago

Adulthood? Your like a perpetual child incapable of realizing mommy and daddy were brainwashed sheep and that it is YOU not some puppet in chief who is ultimately responsible for your education, your safety, your satisfaction and your maturation. Those are YOUR responsibilities. By all means, defend yourself, but I am gonna make fun of the kids throwing molotovs at anthills while enemy tanks roll down their streets.

A_Real_Cause ago

I mean besides the insult you're not wrong.

captainstrange ago

We can't stop this without agitators turning it into a blood bath and playing into the lefts hands.

I'd say let it happen and wait for the inevitible, and then when someone is murdered by these savages turn the victim into a martyr--but we all know that the Steinle case had no effect.

We need a strategy of tension at the border patrol level. Catch and release the worst ms13.

We need hundreds of Kate Steinles.

Unfortunately I think this is exactly the strategy that is going to unintentionally play out.

con77 ago

May God make your aim true and your heart strong!

Baconmon ago

Our government has failed us.. We really need to stand up and take our country back..

Carlosone ago

Lethal force is necessary. Jam all electronic devices and get busy.

GoodGodKirk ago

be careful! to shoot these groups will start a lot of shit, but if you detain then and put them on buses to take them back would be more humane.

where do i donate money for the buses?

drstrangegov ago

it occurs to me this column of people are going to pick up thousands in the areas nearer the border where those who have been waiting for their chance are going to join in, this being their best opportunity. everyone that can needs to go. those of you with resources need to step up, now. this is far more important than any of you can imagine. this is the line in the desert sand. the fucking monstrous part of this is that they will likely be unarmed, and probably put the children at the front. so if its a bloodbath that's the end of the militia movement, right there. you'll be painted as monsters. this is organized. if there is anyone sympathetic to our cause in mexico you MUST go and provide intelligence on these people. every bit of information will be vital. also......has anyone considered the political value of cautiously allowing these people entry, camps set up where they can be gently returned? guaranteed the organizers behind this are salivating over the idea of a bunch of armed bubbas shooting anyone who crosses the border. dang guys.......were being set up badly. if the u.s. government does nothing were going to have a real problem with trump, and there are very real grounds for suing the government for not fulfilling their most basic function.

freedumbz ago

What is your policy on lone wolves?

Dr_Shekel_Nigger ago

make sure you break them up into different, separate groups of maybe 3-6, each with their own communication, etc. This way, if anyone is actually a Fed, or if Feds are listening, they'll have to get a warrant for EACH group, and they won't have enough Feds to cover all the groups

drstrangegov ago

theres going to be the very real problem of agent provocateurs. people posing as militia to fire a shot across the border and start an international incident. also just plain idiots. maybe staying back from the border, and having a front line of only the most very trusted people. what about a front line of physical combatants with riot shields and body armor with pockets full of zip ties to hog tie these people and toss them back across the border after the dust settles. this is your chance to prove were smarter and capable of more organization than a rampaging horde. everyone should have go pros and there should be hundreds of drones in the air. this is big, guys. maybe even the biggest thing any of you will ever do.

Crexus ago

So don't go. Stay away from this. There is no "win" in this scenario.

SolarBaby ago

You're probably right. If this or some organizers of this are hoping for some kind of legislation-inducing event to transpire then they will have people on the American side ready to cause the trouble they want no matter what and will simply use any patriots as political fodder for their movement. This is obviously a large operation taking place however you slice it.

Wargasm ago

You guys are overthinking this.

As much as you want to unload on the invading horde, it's terrible optics.

Stick to rubber bullets, tear gas, and zip-ties.

Crexus ago

Not your job. Period. Shooting anything at unarmed migrants is terrible optics.

markrod420 ago

defending this nation from invasion is all of our jobs when the people whose job it really is blatantly fail.

OhRutherfordBehave ago

Ya know, I thought about contacting the California militia, but then I saw this as a part of their mission statement, and said, nah fuck it, fuck these people.

Uncle_Tractor ago

Shouldn't the US army be dealing with this? Armed or not, it looks like an invasion, albeit a small one.

CrispyLE ago

Think everyone needs to take a step back and look at what could really be going down. We know the deep state has been trying to use illegal aliens to get themselves back in power, how do we know they haven't organised this whole thing to provoke us in to doing something that gives them more opportunity to take control of us and push their agenda.

We know the depths they will go to, and as far as we know they could also have hired people to pose with you, but when the time comes to create chaos and make the situation one they can benefit from.

Please, think about this logically rather than emotionally.

sunajAeon ago

A lot of diversion, i think to avoid attention to Democrat crimes and investigations

Zen-Zinxe ago

Approx. what time is the caravan going to hit the border? Does anyone know? I'm in Canada but I'm extremely interested in seeing how this gets handled. Truly if I could I'd stand there with you guys.

DexterM1776 ago

It's not a caravan of criminals. It's an invading army.

Dysnomia ago

An unarmed army. I'm trembling.

Tallest_Skil ago

Kikes like you are terrified of the very EXISTENCE of whites, so I can see why you’d be afraid of beaners.

Dysnomia ago

I pity white people who had their rich cultural heritage run through the washer to turn out soulless consumer wage slaves who can't even speak the language of their forefathers.

Nana66 ago

With human shields.

preheat_ovens ago

They'll push the women and children to the front to catch bullets for the headlines

mrfetus ago

Dispersal agents followed by less than leathal would be ideal.

Islamiscancer ago

@lobotomy you massive no guns faggot, why don't you head on by with your no guns and no Mills. I'm sure some of the real men there could use their knobs licked clean you faggot

Lobotomy ago

Can you be autistic somewhere else? How have you been mad about me owning you for this long? What has it been, two weeks, since I proved you wrong? Get over it.

Islamiscancer ago

OK mr no guns, but I'm not the one that was proven to have fucked a nigger. You are the one that did that. I have standards, unlike you. Nigger fucker.

Lobotomy ago

Look at this absolute spergout.

Islamiscancer ago

That's a mirror lad..

Lobotomy ago

No, it's you being autistic. You are so bad at bants, how did you even find this place? You clearly do not belong here.

Islamiscancer ago

Shrieked the redditor

Islamiscancer ago

Wow, you are going all in on this LARP. Don't forgot to wipe off Tyrone's cock after he ejaculates in your wife ok Mr I have Guns but am too much of a faggot to actually use them to protect my country

LionElTrump ago

Remember why the Minutemen are efficient and terrifying to dictators world-wide! The American Patriot targets the leader, not the fodder lined up infront of the leader who is riding the high horse!

mynewaccountagain ago

How are they getting food and water? I'm a little impressed if they walk through all of Mexico on their own. Too bad they're too stupid to realize they'll be met with guns telling them to gtfo.

preheat_ovens ago

They are a hoarde. They'll do what all hordes do: rob, rape, murder, and plunder. They're mostly not mexicans. They have no reason to ask the mexicans nicely for their resources.

Tallest_Skil ago

You realize that ✡gabbai✡ is a honeypot, right? Enjoy your life sentence.

meltingpotofhambone ago

Well now you all know why Trump signed the Omnibus. We need the wall NOW more than ever. Trump can put other budgets on the backburner, meanwhile mexico WILL PAY.

drstrangegov ago

make sure you have firetrucks or something non lethal as a first attempt to keep them at bay. rubber bullets, something. that shows you will only hurt them if forced to. if they use guns first they escalated the situation. this is a very delicate situation and guaranteed your actions will be scrutinized.

preheat_ovens ago

rubber bullets

The sound of a gun is going to escalate the situation no matter what. If you intend to use nonlethal force, use obvious nonlethal force. The invader 20 people down from the guy who caught the rubber bullet will have no clue it wasn't a real bullet and has every reason to shoot his real bullets back.

pauly_pants ago

But guns are illegal in Mexico and no gun-crimes ever happen there.

mrfetus ago

The Invaders have no right to arms and are in the commission of a felony.

preheat_ovens ago

Let the courts deal with that. I just don't want our men to die from something as stupid as shooting rubber bullets at people armed with real bullets

mrfetus ago

Amen brother, I just don't want us in prison.

To put you at ease: * Men work in teams, anyone using LTL stuff should be covered by others with live rounds. * Our side understands the use of cover, tactics, brotherhood, and how to use a gun * The advancing party usually has the disadvantage * These poor invading fucks are unrefined human trash and are either cowards or fools * The White man is the most dangerous predator this world has ever known, that's why there's been a multi-generational kike attack to break us.

hermes3xx ago

Guns are illegal in Mexico

SyriansAreTerrorists ago

Plus rubber bullets aren't as good as real bullets at executing human garbage. Real bullets are much better in this situation

Crexus ago

What is wrong with you?

Nana66 ago

Or leave a truck full of tents and supplies with notes in Spanish telling them stay back and settle in Mexico like they would in California tent cities and to come to border control in small groups with hands up to accept a military escort to Canada by busloads, since they love "refugees".

Wahwahweewah ago

If the caravan crosses into the United States by force, are they then legitimately considered invaders?

Dysnomia ago

Does hiking count as force? Can I kill them for treading on stolen land?

markrod420 ago

first off you can kill people who tresspass onto your land. second off "hiking" across a national border illegal with a few thousand people is called INVADINGA you ignorant faggot.

Wahwahweewah ago

If they don't go through appropriate channels, its force. Whether its guns blazing or simply not stopping. What stolen lands are you referring to?

Dysnomia ago

The appropriate channels are force. Avoiding/evading them is pacifism.

Learn to think.

Uh, the whole fucking country was stolen. Show me a single unbroken treaty. I'll be patient.

markrod420 ago

fuck the indians the only mistake we ever made was leaving any of them alive at all. and fuck you, you beleieve the appropriate choice is to take this country from americans by force. why dont you go join the caravan so we can shoot you with the rest of the invading filth.

Wahwahweewah ago

I guess i don't really understand what points you're trying to making. Please explain. Also, broken treaties with who? Indians?

thatguyiam ago

All the power to you Patriots. Fucking swamp monsters need to be hung for their treasons!

Gnurk ago

This is a honey pot. The FBI will have shooters secreted in the crowd and start shooting these invaders. Then there goes the 2nd amendment.

Nana66 ago

They also have a track record of arming both sides...same with a civil war, don't expect the other side to be un-armed.

Rellik88 ago

So your saying the FBI will make it easier on us? The first shot is the hardest.

Rotteuxx ago

So what you're saying is that it's also a great opportunity to take out a few FBI traitors at the same time.

KEKjudo ago

Yes, so don't exercise your rights, because if you do, then they will be revoked. Makes sense.

Fatty9000 ago

God speed patriot. I wish you all the best.

DeltaBravoTango ago

What are the rules of engagement?

Rellik88 ago

Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes. -George Washington

slope ago

This aint the war of 1812. Your chances of survival are proportionate to your distance from the enemy.

wawhite13 ago

"don't trust everything you read on the internet" - Abe Lincoln

DeltaBravoTango ago

George Washington was not at Bunker Hill

Pwning4Ever ago

Remember guys, we are all the militia.

NoBS ago

This invation is brought to us by the CIA squirrel program. The same ones who are protecting the FBI's criminal activities.

JuiceTown ago

I am the leader of the Disorganized Great White North Militia and we will not be coordinating our plans via Gab. This smells like a huge honey pot

Dysnomia ago

You're paranoid.

Just like me.

I hope y'all fuck up.

KEKjudo ago

Just curious. You make be right. But how would you go about mobilization?

mynewaccountagain ago

Hope that you have a full tank of gas and half a pack of cigarettes.

NewAccountOldGoat ago

Do we have a clue where they are right now? Adolfo FloresVerified account (National security correspondent for immigration at @BuzzFeedNews) has not updated his twitter since Friday.

ScreaminMime ago

When are they supposed to arrive at the boarder?

therealsharpie ago

I feel bad for these people.

Some vile scum (Soros? MSM? Self-righteous piece of shit individual?) probably convinced them to leave their homes and that America was ready with open arms.

They've probably been told nothing will happen.

Now it's everyone's problem and I bet the one person who gets off free is the person who set this up who will never spend a day of their lives thinking they did something bad.

mrfetus ago

Our people first.

We must secure a future, compassion can't get in the way of that.

falangismo_angelino ago

I feel bad for these people.

That's part of the problem. These invaders have no respect over their soon to be host country's well being. In fact, they are very hostile to America and her people.

Rellik88 ago

There is to many to citizens arrest therm. If the feds dont do anything, then we will have to protect the country.

What I find jewish is they put women and kids in these invasion. Makes it a bit harder to do what has to be done.

God Speed, If they go for the AZ border I might just have to great them.

Crexus ago

You don't have to do a thing.

NoBS ago

Manure spreaders located by our boarders are not utilized IMHO.

I'll bet the farmers will refuse compensation and even drive the hundreds of miles just to test their fancy new pumps at "almost" safe pressure settings. The first tank load will be pure shit, then the water refills will be as clean as Mexico's tap water. Win-win.

Slimpic ago

To arms, men!

Crexus ago

No.

NotHereForPizza ago

Even when the federal government refuses to.

o0shad0o ago

Beware, this may be an attempt to rile up chaos and give the lefties traction for their favorite causes, such as banning firearms.

pauly_pants ago

I guarantee you are correct. This is probably funded by Soros or someone like him. Normally they sneak in much smaller groups. This large group is meant to make a statement. I'm sure someone is hoping that the media gets some good hi-res photos of the police acting brutally or the militia forming overreaching. Then they can push those photos on everything for a few weeks since Hogg and the shaved head lesbian are losing their steam.

SheriffCoulter ago

I think ideally they will start with non lethal force and escalate as necessary. Also almost everyone should have a body cam. If this happens in California they need to make sure they follow California gun laws to prevent this from being stopped before it is started.

mrfetus ago

I would NOT make a stand in CA. Fuck no.

o0shad0o ago

You want my opinion on an ideal scenario? Have at least twice as many people as there are "migrants". Use defensive force only. Do not block their movement, just monitor them and keep law enforcement advised. If Border Patrol is there let them take point but stay in contact.

Dysnomia ago

No! We must shoot them! Our land and lives are at stake!

o0shad0o ago

An idiot like you is likely to lose both.

If you're agitating, maybe not right away, but eventually.

MingMing ago

It'll be tough to monitor several thousand people if they fan out. Especially once they get to the cities. May have to block their movement. Or like a previous poster was saying; rubber bullets, bean bags, tear gas, and pepper spray. Whatever you can do to nonlethally deter them. Ideally try to funnel them into a narrow area so you can push them back.

o0shad0o ago

That's why I said you'd need twice as many people. And I really seriously wouldn't try to block their movement.

A few thousand extra illegals in the country would be minor at this point. It would be more productive IMO to point out the problems they cause once they get into the US, and also either how unprepared Border Patrol and law enforcement are to handle the problem. This would help strengthen demand for improved border policing and for a wall.

Rawrination ago

This is an army ten thousand (10,000) (or more) strong. Good luck getting 1,000 Border defenders. Let alone 20,000

Been nice knowing yall. I guess time to either join the militia and get ready for the coming civil war or start learning Spanish. I refuse to just let them take me alive.

Dysnomia ago

Hola puta. Chinga te.

o0shad0o ago

If they come in as a literal army, that would undermine the left's entire idea of open borders. You'd have a hell of a time fighting them, and it'd still be played up as horrible vigilanteeism by the MSM. Documenting it and publicizing it would still be the most productive action, not trying to oppose it.

YugeDick ago

Beware this may be an attempt at showing borders are indefensible and therefore meaningless and could bring about the commie's wet dream of open borders.

Dysnomia ago

However implausible, I wish you were right.

YugeDick ago

You wish for open borders?

o0shad0o ago

On the contrary, an uncontrolled invasion like that would tend to bolster the effort to build the wall IMO.

pauly_pants ago

A certain demographic of Americans would be swayed to more of a pro-border stance, but the demographic of more recent populations of border states like Texas see it as an act of rebellion or something like rooting for the underdog. I've had conversations with second or third generations Americans who think this way without thinking of the effect it'll have on them down the line.

Crexus ago

Exactly. Do NOT obstruct. Let them FLOW in without resistance. It is not your job to stop them. These are real people who are desperate. They're just looking for a better life.

YugeDick ago

I'm sure it can be spun either way. And I'm sure the media and the left already have a few versions worked up depending how events play out.

KEKjudo ago

Yes, so do nothing. Common tactic of the docile herd mentally of the normie.

And if the attempt to ban firearms, which they have done with every gun law being unconstitutional, then the only option is to use the means we have, protected by the Constitution, against the traitors of the Republic.

o0shad0o ago

As you may have noticed, holding the Constitution as inviolable isn't working against these people. And news stories about a mob of people shooting at "poor unarmed migrants" are playing right into the hands of the lefties.

For that matter, in the Texas desert area there are places where the border isn't well marked and the Rio Grande is a piddling little arroyo that might have some mud in it. I can just picture agitators marching a militia into Mexico and getting them into a shootout with the Federales.

Tallest_Skil ago

the law isn’t working

FUN FACT: THAT MEANS IT’S TIME TO START KILLING PEOPLE.

Rawrination ago

That is EXACTLY what this is. This is a planned organized INVASION.

Dysnomia ago

LMAO

An invasion of unarmed and destitute migrants. I'm trembling.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

How do you get "do nothing" from that call for caution? I think it's far more obvious that the militia should instead go to great lengths to document their actions and prove to the American people, should anything happen, that they were operating properly.

EvilSeagull ago

The American people don't care how the militias operate as long as the end result is the caravan of invaders doesn't come into this country. Don't you get it? We don't want them here and are being left with little choice than to repel them by force.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

If the militia breaks the laws of our country then they're not a well-regulated militia.

If you have a problem with the laws (which may not even prevent the militia from keeping them out in the first place) then propose changing them. But we're a nation of laws, which is why we even have the power to call aliens illegal in the first place.

barraccuda ago

The rule of law has warped into the royalty of judges. If you are not sick to death of all the legal gangsters doing whatever they like then i don't know how to deal with you. You are lost. How do we reduce the power of the courts?

EvilSeagull ago

What happens when the politicians break the laws of this country?

preheat_ovens ago

So are we supposed to just let a horde of brown people waltz into our land?

Crexus ago

You are aware of how Europeans settled the United States, yes?

Tallest_Skil ago

By crossing the frozen Atlantic Ocean on foot and settling on the coast, yes. And then the indioes crossed over Beringa and slaughtered the whites living in the Americas.

And then we came back about 13,000 years later and won.

Dysnomia ago

It ain't yours, turd4brains

Tallest_Skil ago

Reported for violating US law.

Dysnomia ago

Stupid

Tallest_Skil ago

Go back to /r/fiveyearsold

Dysnomia ago

Ageism goes hand in hand with immaturity.

Tallest_Skil ago

And if you take apples and stew them like cranberries, they taste more like prunes than rhubarb does.

o0shad0o ago

I'm saying be wary. Keep an eye out for agitators.

Joker68 ago

President Trump is speaking out.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/980451155548491777

whipcracker ago

Fuck I cant read twitter, them people are so fucking stupid.

hang_em_high ago

Pretty clear Twitter is prioritizing some replies. I have been blocking the dumber people since Trump came in, but it is a losing battle. One uninformed liberal idiot replaces another instantly.

Rawrination ago

Because By Any Means Necessary. Our enemy has never played by the rules.

Everything you can think of they do to push the all mighty narrative. Botting, SJW mods actively filtering conservatives under libtards

lexsird ago

Stupid as in exposing themselves as the traitors they are.

RoBatten ago

We're not worried about Mexicans most of whom are hard working people the US needs, we're worried about Russians.

Just one example^^of the complete idiocy in some responses. This fucktard thinks we need to import more people that we don't have jobs for. This fucktard has also completely bought into the manufactured dossier - special prosecutor - Democratic political strategy to remove a duly elected sitting president.

whipcracker ago

As long as we have muh constitution, erybody da same.

Nana66 ago

That's so rassis, they are from Honduras

whipcracker ago

I dont care where these mexicans are from, I dont want them.

Thisismyvoatusername ago

To be honest, Mexicans really aren’t that big a problem outside of border areas where drug violence occasionally spills over. It’s the Hondurans, El Salvadorans and others from further South who are the bigger problem.

I_do_jiu_jitsu ago

Too dumb to realize the more that come in the worse the quality of life is for everyone. Especially the poor fuck that gets his identity stolen.

Joker68 ago

Resistard bots

MingMing ago

What kind of response should the militia have? What can they legally do? Can the militia beat them if they cross, can they shoot them? You guys better have a good plan because otherwise it'll end up on the global news with more calls for gun control just like the globalists want. If you outnumber them then you may be able to forcibly bar them from entry without significant bloodshed but it sounds like there are thousands of them and they are very motivated to cross. The Texas militia are going to be put between a rock and a hard place and I do not envy their situation.

aria_taint ago

The globalist want a bloodbath. Make no mistake this is not a random event. This "caravan" of illegals is being coordinated to the last detail and the Mexican government is part of the coronation. My feeling is this is a retaliation move from Mexico because Trump wants out of NAFTA and that's going to hurt Mexico. We need to be very,very careful in our response. They want footage of dead women and kids!

bob3333 ago

Let them start arresting Americans trying to prevent an invasion so the invasion can happen. That will red pill a generation of Americans.

NonyaBidness ago

Either people use arms they have a right to use, and fight the fight that comes next when they're demonized for doing so... or you use everything else. Barricades, barbed wire, body armor, hoses, tasers, etc..

Either Texas decides to stop it, or they decide to allow it. The way it goes down is likely up to Texas.

KosherHiveKicker ago

What kind of response should the militia have? What can they legally do?

  • Citizens Arrest, Notify Border Patrol and ICE, and then keep them detained until either arrive.
  • Follow them from a safe distance, Notify Border Patrol and ICE, and then keep updating both on the border jumping illegal's positions until either can intercept and arrest.

emtpayislow ago

Sounds like they can organize and defend our border.

CapitalPurifier ago

more calls for gun control just like the globalists want.

Calls? They can call all they want. Once the Americans have enough willing guns, calls will no longer matter but to reveal the commies as targets.

MingMing ago

We've had a few wins recently with Trump but pushing too hard too soon will swing public opinion back against us though. A bunch of dead bodies looks very bad on the news.

CapitalPurifier ago

unfortunatly the right way would have been to have a critical mass of racists like blacks do and so jsut like with blacks. Whites would have more white aproval if they were in-group discriminate than if they were anti-racist. Unforutnatly whites are the opposite.

Normally, it would look very good on the news with the majority white population. And the rest can die fighting or leave

Rawrination ago

Because we have been brainwashed from birth by our Satan worshiping self proclaimed Jew overlords to hate our very dna.

CapitalPurifier ago

we? I don't identify with the failures that have fallen for this.

Rawrination ago

We have been (attempted to be) brainwashed. All of us.

Wargasm ago

Rubber bullets, tear gas, and zip-ties.

MingMing ago

This may be the correct answer. Nonlethal deterrence. Where can I donate the the Texas militia rubber bullet fund? I'm guessing they currently have a lot more lead than rubber.

Wargasm ago

Most people don't stock up on rubber bullets. I'm not even sure how to cast them to be honest, but we're going to need a lot of them, and able bodies willing to use them, in a very short amount of time.

undertheshills ago

All they need to do is spot them and get border patrol out there.

OhRutherfordBehave ago

Who cares about globalist's call for gun control. They aren't in charge anymore. They can call for whatever they like.

Tallest_Skil ago

OY VEY GOYIM WE SURE AREN’T IN CONTROL ANYMORE HA HA

IGNORE THAT WE’RE STILL IN COMPLETE CONTROL OF LITERALLY EVERYTHING

Fuck off, idiot.

Simsim ago

Tell that to the citizens of states like Vermont.

YugeDick ago

Shoot them. Let those cases go to courts. Let the news have it. Bring on the calls for gun control.

A nation is defended by it's own armed citizens from foreign invaders and then people sympathetic to those invaders wish to disarm that nation? Bring on the debate, I dare you.

MingMing ago

It's not about debate with these people. It's clearly illegal for these people to push across the border. It's about giving them ammo to push their leftist narrative. We have to maintain the high ground here. Don't win the battle to lose the war.

YugeDick ago

You're right. It's not about the debate. It's not about convincing the other side to change their mind. It's about exposing the other side's ultimate goals through the debate.

waringi ago

What usually happens in this situation throughout history is a welcoming group goes to pick out their favorites and disappears them into slavery never to be heard of again. Now it could either be your vans doing the welcoming or Soros'

Nana66 ago

This is why I believe DACA isn't even an option for Democrats...there are none left except the special ones that become spokes people guilt mongers and MS-13 and doing something would rat them out.

waringi ago

Im sure there's already a plan for them by these 'people without borders' group. You'll know its staged when the media just so happens to be right there when they arrive

NotTheShapeOfMyHeart ago

Do you guys think we don't know about this shit? After the bundy militias, the patriot network you're not going to do shit, don't put your family at risk.

Rotteuxx ago

How many comments left on this alt today ?

NotTheShapeOfMyHeart ago

I have alts because voat limits my free speech bro, and it's all the same name.

Tallest_Skil ago

Reported for admitting to violating US law and Voat rules.

KEKjudo ago

The American public has a right to defend itself and their country. This has been lost on us, you're point of view is the result of nonstop brainwashing by the powers at large, to convince you you have no power, and must rely on the Federal government.

In reality, the 2nd amendment gives people the power to both overthrow the corrupt and to protect themselves, especially if the government fails to do so.

Legally, the American people have the power. Not the government, which his a representation of them. And if the government fails, the people must stand up.

Dysnomia ago

Explain how a few hundred unarmed migrants threaten the country more than a few thousand armed members of blue isis?

Tallest_Skil ago

Kill yourself, genocidal traitor.

Dysnomia ago

You're so scared of my existence. It's adorable.

Tallest_Skil ago

Nah, no one’s afraid of nonwhites. Cry harder, paco.

Dysnomia ago

ITT - cowards afraid of migrants

CheeseboogersGhost ago

1 jew is more dangerous than 1000 niggers or beaners

A_Real_Cause ago

Go illegally immigrate to Honduras.

SocialistKiller ago

Thats not an argument.

Tallest_Skil ago

yid lies through his teeth

gets told to fuck off

another yid says HURR NOT ARGUMENT

Why should we care?

SocialistKiller ago

your quick to assume I am on his side of the argument. I just notice there is not a lot of actual discussion going on here just somebody says something and instead of proving them wrong people yell fuck off.

Tallest_Skil ago

It doesn’t have to be an argument. IT’S A PAID SHILL. The only response is to tell it to fuck off, since the mods are too mentally defective to comprehend how the site’s supposed to work.

SocialistKiller ago

How do you determine if somebody is a shill? They disagree with you so they are a shill?

Tallest_Skil ago

Take five fucking seconds and think about the topic before spouting off jewish platitudes like that.

SocialistKiller ago

Okay let me get this straight. Instead of upholding any form of intellectual standard, we just say "you wrong cuz u disagree jew". Seems like a winning strategy.

Tallest_Skil ago

Take. Five. Fucking. Seconds. And. Think. About. The. Topic. Before. Spouting. Off. Jewish. Platitudes. You. Mentally. Defective. Faggot.

Why are you pretending you have subhuman intelligence? PAID SHILLS DO NOT DESERVE RESPONSES. How mentally ill ARE you? Why are you a liberal? Why are you spamming marxist tactics? Do you think this will work on us or something?

SocialistKiller ago

Ok good job dodging the question and proving to everybody, even your allies, that you are a retard. "Hur dur let me call the antithesis of a marxist a marxist" Go read a book you uncultured uneducated piece of shit

Tallest_Skil ago

Nothing was dodged. You’re just too stupid to understand the answer. You are behaving exactly as marxists behave. You are the antithesis of no such thing. You are projecting your own delusions and strawmen onto others (‘HURR DURR TRUTH IS A MATTER OF DISAGREEMENT HURR DURR’). You are incapable of replying to what was actually written.

PAID. SHILLS. DO. NOT. DESERVE. RESPONSES. If you’re too stupid to know what a paid shill is, then you’re clearly too brainwashed by kikes to be able to think rationally.

SocialistKiller ago

Your answer was stop for a minute. Not once did you provide criteria for identifying shills. Seems you lack the mental capacity to form such a system.

Tallest_Skil ago

I don’t already have the critical thinking skills necessary to determine fact from fiction

this is someone else’s fault

Get off the website.

SocialistKiller ago

Ok so you concede with this statement that you did not in fact answer my question.

How to prove you are a pseudo intellectual in 2 easy steps 1.) Refuse to engage in substantive dialogue with anybody who makes up the opposition 2.) Accuse people of being things that originated in books you never read

Listen man just go read some political theory before going online and accusing people of being things that they aren't. I have put in the time and yes, my ideal is the antithesis of Marxism.

Tallest_Skil ago

Ok so you concede

Nope, answered. Explicitly said that I answered it two posts ago, and explicitly answered it three posts ago. Eat shit, you illiterate fuck.

How to prove you are a pseudo intellectual in 2 easy steps

  1. Spam kike bullshit exactly like kikes do after already being blown the fuck out. Like you’re doing.
  2. Fellate a shotgun.

Listen man just go read some political theory before going online and accusing people of being things that they aren't.

Said the leftist without a shred of irony.

I have put in the time and yes, my ideal is the antithesis of Marxism.

Then you don’t remotely live up to your ideal, because your “tactics”–if they can even be called that with how transparent they are–match up 1:1 with how commie kikes behave.

Truth is objective. Nothing you say or feel will ever change that.

SocialistKiller ago

You didn't answer my question lol. You can call me a leftist all you want that doesn't change the fact that I am unironically a fascist, and that you have no clue as to what you are talking about lol. You couldnt tell me what a marxist is, you couldnt even tell me what a fascist is. Again. Go read a book you boomer fuck, instead of pretending you know it all online hahaha.

Tallest_Skil ago

You didn't answer my question

I did. Drown yourself in semen.

I am unironically a fascist

Who behaves exactly like kikes do, got it.

you have no clue as to what you are talking about

Sorry, moishe. It was a shill account. It got the reply it needed.

You couldnt tell me what a marxist is

lol

you couldnt even tell me what a fascist is.

Not you.

Go read a book you boomer fuck, instead of pretending you know it all online hahaha.

Great argument. Thanks for admitting that everything you said was wrong and that everything I said was right. The question was answered, kike. Hitler had quite a bit to say about your behavior. Thunderstruck, was his word.

SocialistKiller ago

Once you can hold a conversation on political theory we can talk. Reading mein kampf is not a qualifier LOL.

Tallest_Skil ago

Your artificial stipulations are irrelevant, worm. Trying to slither your way out of this; how pathetic.

SocialistKiller ago

Go read You Gentiles, or anything on the JQ before you start calling people jews. You make people like us look like idiots

Tallest_Skil ago

Yep, I’ve read it. You still have absolutely no argument, have been outed using marxist tactics, and are too mentally defective to stop supporting paid shills. It’s over for you.

SocialistKiller ago

"oh you expect me to actually have a reason to call you a shill? What a shill"

Tallest_Skil ago

reason

You’re unfamiliar with the concept.

A_Real_Cause ago

that guy is moving the goalposts. there's nothing to discuss here. what's wrong with having strong borders? foolish.

MingMing ago

It gives us the power to do so but also the responsibility to try to diffuse the situation without creating an international incident that will be used by the government to further curtail our rights. The right response may be to shoot them as soon as the step over the Rio Grande but everybody can see that it will be another rallying cry for the leftists to grab our 2nd, 1st, and 4th amendment rights in that order. It would certainly set an example and curtail the illegal border crossings for the near future if a couple thousand Central Americans are shot but if our firearms are taken then it makes it impossible to defend ourselves from future incursions. We have to play the long game and not shoot first.

Poopandawater ago

Causing an international crisis by making the first shot would probably end with you being marked for treason in this backwards ass country now.

drstrangegov ago

I have a strong feeling that this is what it is all about. the organizers want a bloodbath and are throwing thousands of people into the American militia meat grinder. don't be as stupid as i'm afraid you are, America.

Rawrination ago

Caught between stupid and suicidal, I'll take stupid every day.

But the ONLY way this gets a good ending, is if the militia immediately march on Washington and demand the arrest of traitors in power.

This is the spark to start the civil war. Or another nail in the coffin of our once great nation.

ScreaminMime ago

They could play RedRover!

Wildebeest ago

If anything just publicising that they're going to be there will force the government's hand, they'll have to confront this mob of Invaders now, there would be too many questions afterwards if something happened.

mrfetus ago

Trump knows about the issue, have faith.

Tallest_Skil ago

lol, the government won’t do a goddamn thing, you fucking retard. And no one else will, either.

mrfetus ago

You're wrong, you blackpill cuck. Watch.

Tallest_Skil ago

fact is a blackpill

Jewish paid shill confirmed.

Your account is now worthless, yid. Thanks for outing yourself. Thanks for proving me right every single day of your life. You will never fight back. You will never stop this. You will never execute the traitors. You will never depose the false government. You won’t even stop sending in your taxes.

mrfetus ago

T R I G G E R E D

Trump spoke on this today, so shove your black pill up your ass. You're a loser at being a defeatist loser.

Tallest_Skil ago

So… everything I said was proven right and you were proven wrong.

Fact is not a blackpill, now confirmed jewish shill.

mrfetus ago

You are no-one.

Tallest_Skil ago

Thanks for admitting that everything I said was proven right and you were proven wrong.

FACT IS NOT A BLACKPILL, NOW CONFIRMED JEWISH SHILL.

mrfetus ago

Thanks for

Insincerity is the language of cowards.

You are no-one.

drj2 ago

Could you imagine if they take the illegals side?

Tallest_Skil ago

Yes, since they’ve done so for literally half a century AND NO ONE HAS EVER FOUGHT BACK, AND NO ONE EVER WILL. Fucking idiot.

drj2 ago

Go fuck yourself

Tallest_Skil ago

Not an argument. Thanks for proving me right.

YOU WILL NOT STOP THIS. YOU WILL NOT PUNISH THE GOVERNMENT FOR NOT STOPPING IT.

SolarBaby ago

It's not even necessary to imagine it in one's head as one can just watch the videos from Europe from the last two years.

drj2 ago

Idk if that really determines what the US will do. There’s a lot of mother fuckers that have guns and will be pissed off.

Tallest_Skil ago

determines

Europe and the US are owned by the same people. No one with guns will do anything, ever, at any time, for any reason.

Poopandawater ago

Imagine is one of them fired first tho.... oh my godddd...

Rawrination ago

They ARE TAKING THE ILLEGALS SIDE BY DEFAULT! By doing NOTHING they are taking the illegal alien's side!

fl3x ago

...or the militia, showing their hand and making it clear that the swamp is still there, only the president has changed.

mrfetus ago

Have faith in our president and our men. Donate if you can.

Tallest_Skil ago

oy vey goyim the zionist neoconservative civic nationalist deserves to be treated like a god and never questioned

also give him money

Fuck off.

mrfetus ago

I'm a kike

You first.

Tallest_Skil ago

Thanks for proving me right every single day of your life. You will never fight back. You will never stop this. You will never execute the traitors. You will never depose the false government. You won’t even stop sending in your taxes. ¬

mrfetus ago

trump-says-military-will-secure-southern-border-until-wall-can-be-built.html

@fl3x Trump spoke, said it's handled. Have faith brother, we'll make it through this.

@Tallest_Skil I'm sure you've heard this before, but -- you're a disappointment.

Tallest_Skil ago

Funny how nothing I said was wrong, kiddo. YOU will never fight back. YOU will never stop this. And that “military presence”? Yeah, you just take a gander at how “well” they’re going to do.

mrfetus ago

You don't know me and I don't care what you think. Who would?

Tallest_Skil ago

You don’t know me

I know you’re a jewish shill.

I don’t care what you think.

Thanks for admitting you were wrong, shlomo.

YOU will never fight back. YOU will never stop this. YOU are a coward. YOU are pathetic.

mrfetus ago

You're projecting your feelings of helplessness and impotence upon me. Begone creep.

fl3x ago

Saw that one and the change of tone towards a MUCH more aggressive stance towards invaders. Was stoked to see that. Thanks for the link.

mrfetus ago

It's a pleasure. I've been disenfranchised my whole life and I'm beginning to have faith in our governance.

The man tends to wait for other to speak first, I see the reason and respect it. 14/88

NotHereForPizza ago

While I'm admittedly not privy to the legal side of this, it seems to me like these people will be assumed enemy combatants (think that EO from a couple months back), and can be defended against in the way of saying, "if you cross our border, we shoot. Plain and simple."

Pwning4Ever ago

Whenever one dead Syrian boy showed up on the beach, the media played it on loop to get woman on their side

Rawrination ago

This is why giving women the right to vote is always ALWAYS the death of a civilization.

If we can avoid it by rebuilding ours we will have to remove that, or eventually society WILL be ruled the world over by the men strong enough to not be ruled by their women.

Back-Again ago

Mothers demanded the vote after the senseless deaths in WWI, and many also protested Vietnam demanding their sons be returned. You are lumping all women in with Trigglypuff, and we are not all Trigglypuffs.

Tallest_Skil ago

No, women sat on their asses at home during WWI and gave white feathers to men at home, calling them cowards for not dying in a ditch in France for absolutely no gain to their home country.

You will have your vote taken from you and the world will be made better for it.

Rawrination ago

No. I'm doing nothing but reading and understanding statistics. On the whole. https://youtu.be/UxpVwBzFAkw

Back-Again ago

You need to remember that figures don't lie, but liars figure. It's the first rule of statistics. You guys post all these polling results...do you know anyone who's ever been polled about how they voted? Ask who is asking the question, who they're asking, and WHY. They game all the results to tell the story they want to tell.

xobodox ago

We have unalienable rights. If the govt doesn't protect us, we have the right to sue it. If we protect ourselves, the govt has no rights.

Tallest_Skil ago

Enjoy prison, dipshit. You will never fight back.

mrfetus ago

Fuck off kike.

Tallest_Skil ago

Thanks for proving me right every single day of your life. You will never fight back. You will never stop this. You will never execute the traitors. You will never depose the false government. You won’t even stop sending in your taxes.

Tallest_Skil ago

I love that YOU STILL CAN’T REFUTE A WORD THAT I SAID.

mrfetus ago

Keep it on the boards, I only argue so others can see it.

I truly hope you have a change of heart, I'm here to talk if you do.

HH

Tallest_Skil ago

What the fucking hell are you even saying, dipshit?

YOU STILL CAN’T REFUTE A WORD THAT I SAID.

mrfetus ago

Thought it was a PM 😜

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

The use of deadly force is not an inalienable right, it's an exemption to prosecution after committing an act of manslaughter. It has narrowly defined criteria justifying its use.

The parent poster is hoping that the people armed with deadly weapons will understand under what circumstances they're permitted to shoot someone. And the implication is that people illegally crossing a border isn't sufficient grounds to do so. They probably only have the legal right to attempt to detain them, but that's the question: can they threaten or use deadly force to prevent the commission of a crime, even when it doesn't result in an immediate threat of bodily harm?

Tallest_Skil ago

The use of deadly force is not an inalienable right

Kill yourself, shill.

And the implication is that people illegally crossing a border isn't sufficient grounds to do so.

It is, shill.

They probably only have the legal right to attempt to detain them

Nope.

can they threaten or use deadly force to prevent the commission of a crime, even when it doesn't result in an immediate threat of bodily harm?

Yes.

Crexus ago

Easiest way to find the most reasonable response on VOAT? Look for the downvotes.

Tallest_Skil ago

WAAAAAAAAAAAAA APPEAL TO MAJORITY APPEAL TO POPULARITY APPEAL TO EMOTION

/r/suicide

Get out.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

The reactionary idiots don't even know I'm agreeing with them. Not a single one of them actually believes humans have the inalienable right to kill other humans. If someone did that to their family they'd be the first to call it a fundamental transgression against the basic right to be alive.

They read my comment and get confused about the phrasing and downvote away. Nevermind that I've made it clear numerous times that the inalienable right is the right to defend yourself.

Tallest_Skil ago

oy vey i said the exact opposite of what they’re saying that means i agree with them

No one is falling for it, you fucking yid.

stradian ago

Here is the legal justification:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Here is the prescedent: https://infogalactic.com/info/Pancho_Villa

The government has failed in its reason for existance. The People are now going to secure what the government should have.

Dysnomia ago

Lmao.

Good luck. The deep state is probably behind this, so while you're targetting their disposable assets they're prepping teams to raid your home, kill your dog, and toss your dumb violent ass into a FEMA camp.

telleveryoneyouknow ago

You make a good point. Besides... there are more entertaining and legal ways to approach this situation without needing to start mowing down crowds on unarmed people because border patrol have their hands tied in bureaucratic bullshit.

Why can’t someone launch teargas or use non lethal ammunition? Is it possible to simply set up shop and have them form a line. Maybe even pretend to be an agency designed to help them and guide them through a “protected route” that’s leads back into Mexico (after circling them around a few times to confuse them)

Dysnomia ago

Maybe even pretend to be an agency designed to help them and guide them through a “protected route” that’s leads back into Mexico (after circling them around a few times to confuse them)

I love it.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

You don't seem to be replying to my comment. Do you think I'm saying that US citizens don't have the right to use deadly force to defend themselves?

stradian ago

Arguing humans do not have the right to deadly force is arguing that any an animal does not. Fighting is a condition of nature, and deadly force is used to achieve any ends. It is the more then an inalienable right, its a truth of existance we all know. The survival of the fittest.

NoisyCricket ago

We've already confirmed, in another thread, he is mentally retarded.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

Are you clinically retarded, or just moonlighting as a retard?

I'm not arguing that humans don't have the right to use deadly force in certain circumstances, such as self defense. I'm saying that they don't have the right to use deadly force full stop.

How about you actually read what you're replying to?

stradian ago

As you just stated:

I'm not arguing that humans don't have the right to use deadly force in certain circumstances

I'm saying that they don't have the right to use deadly force full stop.

Either Humans have a right to use deadly force or they don't. You admit they do. What you are actually questioning is do humans have an inalienable right to murder, which the answer remains no. You must be a very smart in'duh'vidual to diliberatly utilize the wrong language.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

I'm saying that they don't have the right to use deadly force full stop. That you don't have the right to kill people carte blanche, and the 2nd amendment certainly doesn't give you this right.

 

Do you think I'm saying that US citizens don't have the right to use deadly force to defend themselves? I'm saying they don't have an inalienable right to use deadly force, full stop. I then went on to say under what circumstances it may still be used, but no one has a blank check to use deadly force.

 

The use of deadly force is not an inalienable right, it's an exemption to prosecution after committing an act of manslaughter. It has narrowly defined criteria justifying its use.

I've been very clear from the beginning what I'm describing: the right to use deadly force is limited to a justification for manslaughter. In other words, that you don't have an inalienable right to use deadly force under any given circumstance. That it requires a justified self defense.

It's only through calling you a retard did you even try to describe why you're confused.

Either Humans have a right to use deadly force or they don't. You admit they do.

Is that really how you perceive the world? Black and white? "Well you can hit people with your car sometimes, so therefore you have a right to hit people with your car."

Look up the word "nuance" and then give the dictionary back to your homeroom teacher.

uniques ago

Who said anything about deadly force. Its observe, hold and report - aiding and working with border patrol. Citizens have been doing this on the southern border for years, its built in to the whole minutemen thing.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

.Who said anything about deadly force.

The parent poster literally asked if the militia can shoot them

Tallest_Skil ago

And you admitted that they can. Kill yourself, kike traitor.

NoisyCricket ago

The use of deadly force is not an inalienable right,

This is as factually incorrect as can be. That's literally exactly what the Second Amendment allows for. Deadly force IS an inalienable human right. The question isn't if it's a right, but if use of the right is justified. Which is a different question and a different statement.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

No, the second amendment does not say that using deadly force is an inalienable human right. I advise you to never pick up a gun, though thankfully I'm sure you don't actually believe what you just claimed to believe.

You have the inalienable right to defend yourself and form militias to defend against tyranny. That's not the same thing as the right to kill people. You may kill people as you defend yourself or your country, but that's not the same thing as saying humans have the right to kill.

Tallest_Skil ago

No, the second amendment does not say that using deadly force is an inalienable human right.

PAID SHILL CONFIRMED.

Reported.

You have the inalienable right to defend yourself and form militias to defend against tyranny.

We’re doing that. Thanks for admitting that killing all invaders is legal.

That's not the same thing as the right to kill people.

No one said it was, YOU YIDDISH MOTHERFUCKER.

You may kill people as you defend yourself or your country

THANKS FOR ADMITTING YOU WERE WRONG.

telleveryoneyouknow ago

Actually, we have the right to whatever the fuck we please. Not all actions may be legal however. Freedom is a double edged sword. The rule of law is how society governs themselves. Not that we “can and can’t” do things.

All things are on the table. All is fair in love and war.

Dysnomia ago

These "patriots" are cowards. They just want to shoot people. There's no logic to it. If they were brave or intelligent they'd aim their guns upwards instead of down. Target the established domestic despots instead of unarmed and destitute migrants.

It's laughable because they'd never pull the trigger either way, the cucks.

NoisyCricket ago

Honestly, not sure if you're retarded or trolling. To believe your false interpretation is accurate in any way requires that ARMS only ever be decorative. But, anyone who isn't mentally retarded understands that it is FACTUALLY and INESCAPABLY true that the entire purpose of the Second Amendment is fucking kill people. If you disagree, you're only confirming you are mentally retarded. Which is by definition a human right to kill people. Period.

At which point, the only valid question is when is such a right legally and morally justified. Which is precisely what you were told above.

Obviously I can't force you to not be retarded. But we have nothing to discuss so long as you maintain lies and shelter your mental retardation.

Dysnomia ago

How is killing unarmed migrants more in line with the 2nd amendment than killing armed domestic tyrants?

Tallest_Skil ago

Blow your brains out, you genocidal fuck.

Dysnomia ago

You were a victim of genocide long before I showed up to remind you about it.

NoisyCricket ago

  1. Please provide proof they are unarmed.

  2. Stop making false equivalence.

  3. Explain how the Second Amendment does not apply to foreign invasion when it's literally one of the reasons it exists.

Dysnomia ago

  1. Not an iota of evidence suggests otherwise.

  2. Make me, faggot

  3. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

NoisyCricket ago

  1. That's your assertion. Prove it.

  2. Doubling down admitting you're wrong. Works for me.

  3. Failure.

I'll accept that you are admitting you're completely wrong but trying to save face.

Notice you avoided answer anything. Even angry that someone dared to demand you justify your position. Failure.

Dysnomia ago

  1. Y'all made the claim of an invasion without evidence. Consider it rightfully dismissed until you produce some.

  2. Wha?

  3. Huh?

No you're just a weaboo who's too stupid to realize who's really harming you. Hint, it's the ones who'll kill ya over not having a license.

NoisyCricket ago

  1. The OP is literally evidence. You shouldn't use words you don't understand.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

To believe your false interpretation is accurate in any way requires that ARMS only ever be decorative.

You're missing the point entirely. In fact, I'm pretty sure you didn't even read my whole comment, as I explicitly say that arms can be used to kill people.

Given your immediate downvotes and triggered language, I'd say you probably didn't. You're just flying off the handle because you don't understand what nuance is

kasthegikes ago

Your day is coming schlomo

Diggernicks ago

Empty threats on the internet are extremely homosexual.

kasthegikes ago

Hello, jacob.

You must make a shit ton of empty threats then.

YugeDick ago

people illegally crossing a border isn't sufficient grounds

If I illegally cross the threshold of your home, you have every legal right to shoot me dead. It's defense of private property.

I see no difference here.

Dysnomia ago

It's not your house dumbass

YugeDick ago

Who's house is it then, commie faggot? The beaner's?

Dysnomia ago

It isn't a house at all you bootlicker. Wash the delusion out of your eyes and realize how stupid you sound.

YugeDick ago

It's an example of private property. Stop being a retarded faggot commie and realize that invaders are forcing their entrance into a sovreign nation against the will of its citizens.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

Considering you had to use different words to describe the situations, I'd say the differences are encoded even in the language you can't help but use.

Tallest_Skil ago

Nope, your kike weasel words won’t save you here. Nothing changed.

YugeDick ago

I was trying to make the point more poignant. But if an intruder we're even across a marked boundry of land the owner would still have every right to shoot.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

In Texas you're probably right, but does a militia have the right to do so? Especially since their stated purpose isn't to defend the landowner's land, but to prevent the people from becoming illegal aliens in the US.

BaneGhostiSwear ago

scr yugedick isn't a legit user. read the previous comment. "But if an intruder we're even across..."

this nigger is giving the shill spelling error sign.

YugeDick ago

I would say it's a very small legal leap to argue that a militia defending a sovreign nation's borders from an invading force isn't any less legal than a landowner defending his private land from tresspassers.

DeadFox ago

How does a community not have the right to defend themselves from a literal invasion such as this?

Dysnomia ago

How is a community terrified of a rabble of unarmed migrants when domestic tyranny is already well established?

Tallest_Skil ago

Slurp chodes, kike shill. No one is falling for your mental illness.

Dysnomia ago

You wish I was a shill.

Tallest_Skil ago

You’re a proven shill.

Dysnomia ago

You're a proven cuck.

DeadFox ago

We're only allowed to care about one thing? The corrupt government will also be dealt with, but I'm not intent on allowing invaders into my lands because my government isnt good.

Dysnomia ago

Idiocy

telleveryoneyouknow ago

The corrupt government domestic tyranny goes hand in hand with deliberate immigration tactics, destabilization, civil unrest etc.

Can’t separate the two issues.

Dysnomia ago

Surely you could prioritize them.

DeadFox ago

Hey retard. A 2000+ horde of non-white scum is a hell of a bigger threat then being taxed a little bit to much.

Dysnomia ago

Hey fuckwit. It wasn't migrants who threw me in a concrete box and shook me down for $500 today. Luckily I could afford their extortion this time.

Tallest_Skil ago

And thus we’re going to kill you and all your invader friends. First.

Dysnomia ago

Trembling

Tallest_Skil ago

We don’t need a play by play of your bodily functions, shlomo.

Dysnomia ago

How's it feel?

Being powerless, I mean?

Tallest_Skil ago

I wouldn’t know; I’m not you.

SuperConductiveRabbi ago

Because there's a difference between defending yourself, defending yourself using lethal force, and defending your borders (AKA, intervening to stop the commission of a crime). What I called into question is the implied claim that they should open fire on anyone crossing the border. I'm saying this is probably not legally justified. Even brandishing a weapon might not be justified, though if it happens in Texas, it probably is.

IANAL, but I think most people would agree that the militia is legally and ethnically justified in chasing down the border-jumpers and physically detaining them. I wouldn't say they'd even be liable for bodily injury to the suspects if they did so, as long as it can't be proven that they acted with deliberate intent to cause undue harm. But pointing a rifle at people coming across the border and opening fire? I'm sure even in Texas they can't do that.

They better go to lengths to document their actions to prove they were acting properly. Especially if they don't want this to blow up into a liberal circle-jilling over how we need to ban guns.

Tallest_Skil ago

Because there's a difference between defending yourself, defending yourself using lethal force, and defending your borders

No, there is no difference.

I'm saying this is probably not legally justified.

You are wrong.

IANAL,

Yes, you anal.

I think most people would agree that the militia is legally and ethnically justified in chasing down the border-jumpers and physically detaining them.

And ethnically cleansing them.

But pointing a rifle at people coming across the border and opening fire? I'm sure even in Texas they can't do that.

Enjoy your genocide, traitor.

DeadFox ago

"Legally justified" is what is going to allow these invaders to just waltz in to replace, rob and rape.

Trumpocrat2020 ago

What if this all happens right on the border, as in - shot was fired in Texas but hit it's target in Mexico.

Trumpocrat2020 ago

These people are from Honduras, would Mexico even seek extradition?

weezkitty ago

Because unless they are on your property, it is not a direct threat to your life and property

Tallest_Skil ago

Totally false, kike. Nothing you said is true.

weezkitty ago

When was the last time the law sided with a militia?

Tallest_Skil ago

Fine, enjoy your genocide. Never fight back. Never do anything. That’s on you.

DeadFox ago

I'm more then an individual. I make up a part of my nation, and my nation is me. It is in my interests that my nation is protected.

BlowjaySimpson ago

So it'd be illegal to shoot an invading army unless they started to use guns against us?

NoisyCricket ago

[Sarcasm alert] Yes. Very clearly that if an invading army simply comes in and demands your property, land, and country, it is illegal to protect yourself and your nation because some people might cry.

obsessedcrf ago

A military force? No. But in this case, very likely, yes. I know that isn't popular here because it isn't what people want to hear. But practical law doesn't take sides of people who "take things into their own hands"

Tallest_Skil ago

This is a military force, fuckface. It’s an invasion with the purpose of genocide.

NoisyCricket ago

Yes. Very clearly that if an invading army simply comes in and demands your property, land, and country, it is illegal to protect yourself and your nation because some people might cry.

LDIP ago

Welcome to the new America

weezkitty ago

If the law doesn't recognize as an invading army, yes. I'm not saying that it isn't but how it is seen by the legal authorities are what determine your fate.

Tallest_Skil ago

oy vey the ✡law✡ doesn’t say it therefore it’s wrong

ha ha ignore that the law isn’t what the constitution says

also ignore that the law isn’t what natural law says

Enjoy your lamppost.

weezkitty ago

I didn't say it's wrong. I am just saying it will almost certainly land you in prison

NoisyCricket ago

Because unless they are on your property, it is not a direct threat to your life and property

This is incorrect. An invaders need not necessarily fire at you to justify a direct threat of life or property. This is in fact established law. Does this specific situation measure up? I'm not sure. But it doesn't change that your premise is already settled law and your statement is false.

The real question is, do these people constitute a threat a threat to self or the nation? Given that they have been illegally voting, that answer appears to be a resounding yes. Does that hold legal water? I dunno. But it's not without precedent.

weezkitty ago

Does that hold legal water?

Extremely doubtful. Especially because the national guard hasn't even been deployed (as far as I know)

NoisyCricket ago

The national guard isn't a useful metric.

dv1155 ago

Could a "citizen's arrest" apply to this? Are there any provisions in texas law for using violence to stop a crime in progress? Civilians are allowed to detain shoplifters on such a criteria. Might be worth paying a couple hundred bucks to a TX criminal attorney to get a definite answer on what texas law does and does not allow.

Pawn ago

oy vey, right into the trap. Clearly the shlomos set this up to get some of the most active milita leaders together.

KEKjudo ago

Oy vey, do nothing goys.

Tallest_Skil ago

Oy vey, I’m totally not the FBI, goys. Go blow up that building and kill people.

KEKjudo ago

Oy vey, no you're definitely not goy.

KEKjudo ago

Hahaha exactly how I feel pretty much all the time.

NotHereForPizza ago

The constitution literally insists a militia be formed, well regulated, and we'll armed.

This is literally the thing our founding fathers had in mind.

Dysnomia ago

Pretty sure the FF were talking about tyranny and not immigration.

NotHereForPizza ago

Why should its use be limited? Why not have a militia in place for a variety of reasons, like... say... Switzerland, for example.

Dysnomia ago

Ask your precious FF

Tallest_Skil ago

Enjoy being executed by the government.

markrod420 ago

oh look you arent encouraging violence when it wouldnt result in lone wolf actors that are easily executed and then used for the anti white narrative. more and more i think i was right. you are perfectly happy to incite individuals into committing mass shootings. but when the countrys citizens try to rise up TOGETHER to defend themselves well then suddenly you are oposed. because the last thing you want is a unified and armed front of citizens. thats what you are trying to do away with.

Tallest_Skil ago

oy vey more strawmen if i say it a lot that makes it become true

Yawn.

markrod420 ago

lol this is fun. you are much easier to understand now.

Tallest_Skil ago

I took a remedial English language course

you are easier to understand now

Yeah, that’s how it works. If you had been literate from the start, paid shill, you wouldn’t have had this problem.

markrod420 ago

lol its always been fun disecting your retarded ramblings. its just getting more fun.

The_Prophets_Profit ago

Tell Tyrone I said hey when he finally gets off your wife.

Tallest_Skil ago

Not an argument. Enjoy being executed by the government. You’re too fucking retarded to exert your legal rights over things that matter, so you have absolutely no power to stop them.

markrod420 ago

"only commit violence when i tell you to and only in small unorganized individual acts. also ill tell you when something matters and an invading army of illegals does not matter"

you because you are a lone wolf violence inciting shill.

KEKjudo ago

Yes.

AvariciousNose ago

Never forget The Alamo

poloport ago

Didn't you all lose at the Alamo?

Rawrination ago

It was a shitty place to hold up. That's not what its about. Its about remembering the American spirit of defiance in the face of any and all comers. It also was the thing that sparked a war that America won. Like in the movie 300, sometimes the best thing to do is die in the act of inspiring others to actually fucking fight.

mrfetus ago

Please don't talk to the kikes.

Dysnomia ago

Lmao.

If any of these unarmed and desritute migrants so much as harm a hair on an American head, I'll eat my shorts.

Rawrination ago

The combined impact of all their previous Illegal aliens has already been catastrophic. Not to mention the MASSIVE amount of crime, including and especially violent crime, that always comes in the wake of this. Not to mention the fucking population replacement with the government subsidizing their births and penalizing native born from reproducing. The womb is mightier than than the sword. Anyone who doesn't realize this in a democracy where 1 person is 1 vote is a fool.

Just because they are going to be unarmed or lightly armed doesn't make it less of an invasion. They are using the weapons of useful idiots like you and bleeding hearts and the media.

Most importantly THEY THEMSELVES consider it an invasion.

Dysnomia ago

Oh shit. I didn't realize you were an indigenous bro. You're totally right. Governments that import migrants are truly evil. Let's kill all the migrants! Starting with the Europeans because it was their model of government in the first place.

Let's ingore the government tho. Let's target their pawns. That's how chess works, right? Kill all the pawns and we win! Yaaayys! I

Tallest_Skil ago

oy vey can’t read words ha ha

oy vey whites weren’t the first in the Americas

Get out. No one believes you.

Dysnomia ago

Aw geeze

Rawrination ago

Had the Natives practiced extreme vetting they would have not been almost totally wiped out by disease.

However the invading Europeans where better armed and conquered the continent.

The things that where done during that where horrible. But the land is not going to get given back, no matter how hard La Raza wants it to.

This is war. A new kind of war, but on an old battlefield with old enemies.

Thisismyvoatusername ago

Remember Goliad!

Gringojones ago

Caravan of criminals? They aren't criminals yet. Don't be like the sensational media.

Tallest_Skil ago

Blow your brains out.

Gringojones ago

Then I could be as smart as you.

KEKjudo ago

At the least they are criminals. At the most, they are enemy combatants, launching a coordinated invasion into a sovereign nation. This should be a shoot on site scenario.

Gringojones ago

You should run for president. Of south africa.

NoPatience4UrShit ago

ILLEGALLY crossing Mexico to ILLEGALLY enter the United States. Illegal means against the law dumb fuck, doing something against the law makes you a criminal hence these assholes are CRIMINALS. Can't dumb this down any more than that

Gringojones ago

Sorry Rachel Maddow but facts are facts and until you can provide proof to those facts what you are saying is rumors. But then again rumors are enough to start wars for you morons.

EvilSeagull ago

So I suppose the other 30 fucking million illegals already here are also rumors. You moron.

NoPatience4UrShit ago

That you'd even reference Madcow says you've watched her show enough to ASSume & shows me the extent of your intelligence. The articles being written along with the pictures, interviews & footage shot of this caravans intent to storm our borders is proof enough for me, wars have been started with less. We're fuckin sick of every third world skip skop & scallywag thinking they have the right to be here & that our immigration laws don't apply. US patriots are ready to defend our borders & country. Apologists like you will be responsible for creating the false reality for these people that'll get them killed. We've had enough of being taken advantage of & see this as an act of war & are preparing to act as such

P8rtsUnkn0wn ago

Isn't "intent" to commit a crime a crime in of itself?

Gringojones ago

Isn't proof of intent, not a rumor from a media source, required to classify a crime?

P8rtsUnkn0wn ago

It's not a rumor. Here's the website for Pueblo Sin Fronteras, the group organizing the march. According to them, they do this march yearly.

Here's a group in California organizing support for the migrants

Here's a non-buzzfeed article from Monday

Here's another

Gringojones ago

Thank you. You are the only person to respond with evidence. Everyone else has been gossiping.

Hey @tallest_skil. Take note. This is how someone older than 13 answers a question.

Tallest_Skil ago

Number one, cry harder. Number two, YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG, YOU FUCKING FAGGOT. Number three, we’re not your mother. We’re not here to hold your hand. Either shut the fuck up and do your own research or quit crying when you get smacked down for being a lazy dipshit. Your laziness is how the jews have caused this shit to happen. YOUR FAULT, not ours.

Number four, you’re extremely insecure. Fix that.

Gringojones ago

Lol. Proven wrong on what? That you only know how to spread gossip?

Clairvoyance is the next trick you pull out of your hat?

Your initials don't happen to be JD, do they?

Tallest_Skil ago

Proven wrong on what?

Your only claim, you illiterate fuck.

Clairvoyance

This is you.

Your initials don’t happen to be JD, do they?

The only J I care about is followed by a Q.

Gringojones ago

You remind me of someone I used to argue with at work.

His thinking, much like yours seems to be, is that whoever is loudest wins. Never cared. Same as I don't about you.

Reported.

Tallest_Skil ago

lol wow strawman i can’t reply now i win lol ha ha

Reported for admitting to it.

Gringojones ago

Lol.. Tallest shill accusing anyone of straw man is the funniest thing I've heard all day.

Tallest_Skil ago

oy vey still can’t prove any of my claims

oy vey still can’t prove you wrong

oy vey still replying, thereby proving you right

Keep it up, moishe.

Gringojones ago

Awww Moesha, someday your opinion will matter in your mom's eyes. But you'll have to come out of the basement for that to happen.

Tallest_Skil ago

Every post you make proves me right. ª

Gringojones ago

Dance monkey!

Tallest_Skil ago

Yeah, we have proof. Kill yourself immediately.

Gringojones ago

Lol moron

YugeDick ago

They certainly have declared intent. They are on their way to invade a foreign country by force. With no exaggeration that is an act of war.

Gringojones ago

You have heard them declare intent? Or you heard the media declare that they declared intent?

Do they have weapons? Or you know, that thing that qualifies your "by force" statement.

I'm not saying being prepared to meet them is wrong. I'm saying that you are being as sensational as the leftist media by lying about the situation to persuade people to your side.

Nana66 ago

They have a Facebook and a Twitter page FULL of intent, including memes about taking back states that used to be part of Mexico.

YugeDick ago

A parade of people crossing multiple nation's borders already and traveling in a direct path to another and you wish to claim they do not intend to cross that next border the same as they've crossed previous borders?

If I walk up in your house without your permission, I would be doing so by force. It wouldn't be by invitation. I could shut you up with my fist to your face and that would be by force. A weapon is not necessary to define an act as done by force.

Why do you commies always play these word games to justify immoral actions?

KEKjudo ago

They have. It's on their Facebook page.

Kregan ago

What is so sensational about being upset that people are openly gathering in large numbers to cross a countries borders illegally. The National Guard should be deployed for such threats. To be clear the threat is on both sides. To the American people and the Mexican people. Many men women and children are exploited through human trafficking and sex slavery as well as outright slave labor. To be even more clear, the threat is not just from the south. The border between Canada and USA at the Detroit Michigan area is a disaster and will get even worse with Canada importing 3rd world migrants at alarming numbers. America has 7500 miles of borders both north and south and we need them guarded vigilantly for the betterment of Canada, Mexico and America. That's just the truth, there's no way to dance around that clear and concise statement.

Gringojones ago

There's nothing sensational about being upset. It is sensational to make claims while providing zero evidence. It is sensational to use buzzwords without providing facts.

Nana66 ago

I am no longer ignorant about how Dearbornistan happened, Thanks.

Kregan ago

You are welcome my friend.

wgtt911 ago

, they are in mexico illegally,,that makes them criminals. Go bakc and shill elsewhere

Nana66 ago

Could you imagine if we let caravans of Americans that are living in California tent cities flood into Mexico...

El_oso_mugroso14 ago

“Go back and shill somewhere else FAGGOT!” FTFY

Gringojones ago

Shilling? Is that what you call defining things by their proper terms? Show proof that the Mexican government has declared them illegal. Then show proof that a violation of Mexican law is a violation of US law.

If these people walk up to the border, sit there for awhile, and then turn around are they still criminals?

You are as stupid as Maxine Waters claiming that trump will be impeached without even knowing the definition of impeachment.

Being prepared for an event is great. Being a sensational idiot in an attempt fool others into agreeing with you is the medias job.

Tallest_Skil ago

They violated Mexican law by being in Mexico. They are criminals. Kill yourself.

Kregan ago

I second that one Tallest

Gringojones ago

Lol, show proof faggot.

Tallest_Skil ago

Already shown, moishe.

Gringojones ago

Lol Moisha

BigMatteson ago

They're marching through Mexico without authorization intent on entering the US illegally. That sounds like criminal intent to me. Or do laws not matter anymore?

Gringojones ago

Has the Mexican government declared them criminals? If so, when does breaking a Mexican law equate to being a criminal in the US?

Until they actually make the attempt to cross out border illegally, they are not criminals here.

Use proper definitions or have the same credibility as the leftist media.

YugeDick ago

So if a rapist goes to another country he hasn't yet raped in, does that make him no longer a rapist?

Octoclops ago

Has the Mexican government declared them criminals

This is not how laws work. In the U.S. or Mexico. The Mexican government has no obligation to declare every individual criminal to be one. They're in Mexico illegally and whether or not people in the Mexican government decide to enforce the law, they still broke it. They are criminals and you are a retard.

Gringojones ago

Lol. The government is the decider of law and no one is a criminal until charged with a crime. Try again.

Octoclops ago

The government is the decider of law

Yes and they've already decided the laws these people are breaking.

no one is a criminal until charged with a crime

So if you kill your husband and leave the country before anyone notices, then you aren't a criminal? And I guess the country you flee to should just welcome you with open arms right? Not that any of this matters since these parasites have been pretty up front about their intent to break our laws.

Gringojones ago

Yes. You are not a criminal until labeled by the system that decides.

It's the same reason that OJ is not a murderer. Because they couldn't "prove" that he was. Do I think he did it? Absolutely. Can I shoot him because I believe he is a murderer? I could, but in the eyes of the system, I would now be the murderer and not him.

It may have been you or someone else who claims I am arguing semantics here. And I am. But the original question I asked was, where is the evidence of OPs claims. Only a single answer out of 18, scratch that- make it about 13 because tallest_shil is a moron, only a single person responded with a real answer.

It wasn't you.

Octoclops ago

You wouldn't be allowed to shoot OJ even if he was convicted of murder so I don't see the relevance of that. Of course if he went on facebook and said you're a dirtbag and deserve to be murdered, then got in a white bronco and started driving straight to your house, you probably could.

You admit you're arguing semantics so I don't really get what you're even trying to accomplish here. Other than making an ass of yourself. By your own logic, drug cartel enforcers in Mexico aren't criminals and suicide bombers can't be terrorists at all, since they aren't alive to be charged with anything. Your autistic word games render it pointless to defend these people as non-criminals anyway.

You can call them undocumented royalty or whatever pc gibberish you idiots are using now. You'll still just be some fag on the internet so nobody cares about the contents of your special personal dictionary.

Kregan ago

You are arguing semantics at this point and you really shouldn't be. The point is they are trying to enter a country illegally. Whether is the US, Canada, Mexico or Liberia it's illegal and should not be tolerated by anyone including yourself.

Gringojones ago

Perhaps I should allow you to use the tactics of the left. Carry on.

Kregan ago

What is the point of your response? I made a valid point based in reason and with common sense and respectfully also. Your response does not explain yourself nor does it refute my points. In no way did I use leftists progressives tactics when attempting to engage you. If you wish to explain yourself and have a respectable dialogue I am down. Otherwise take care and be easy.

Tallest_Skil ago

oy vey don’t stop that nigger from raping your wife. You can’t stop him UNTIL he is already doing it!

This is you. Commit suicide.

Gringojones ago

As always, your reading comprehension is a prime example of a common core edication.

Tallest_Skil ago

oy vey i was proven wrong let’s pretend you didn’t read it ha ha now you’re wrong

YOU are using common core, not ME

Typical tricks.

Gringojones ago

Reported for shilling and not killing yourself

Tallest_Skil ago

lol cry more, shlomo

IGiveZeroFucks ago

Found the kike.

Gringojones ago

Lol cry harder faggot.

Your mom has extra tissues for you upstairs.

Tallest_Skil ago

I refuse to shoot a nigger until he’s already raping my wife! – Gringojones

lol cuck

Gringojones ago

I love watching you try to be an armchair psychologist.

Did your mom make you oatmeal or cold cereal this morning? I hope she didn't trip coming down the stairs.

Tallest_Skil ago

You prove me right with every post you make. Know how to prove me wrong? Stop posting.

Gringojones ago

Prove you wrong? There's no need. Your voice is inconsequential. Youre an idiot on an online forum who thinks their opinion matters.

Tallest_Skil ago

Every post you make proves me right. •

Gringojones ago

Dance monkey

BigMatteson ago

If Mexico is not stopping them, they are allowing them. That makes Mexico culpable in housing a foreign army intent on invading the US. Breaking Mexico's border laws lets me know just how serious they are about invading my country illegally. Cry about semantics all you want but they are a criminal foreign army intent on invading.

Gringojones ago

That should look good on your resume for CNN.

Tallest_Skil ago

CNN doesn’t hire people who tell the truth, paid shill.

Gringojones ago

Exactly why you are a prime candidate.

DamoclesofBenghazi ago

The wall needs to be built before the super volcano erupts in the gulf of mexico

Shilly_Mc_Shillface ago

Do you think a wall would stop me from fleeing a volcano? Maybe something like the Maginot line?

DamoclesofBenghazi ago

I think it would give me 5 seconds to draw a bead Shlomo

lexsird ago

wut?

preheat_ovens ago

The wall needs to be built before tons of brown people start swarming in shamelessly, as more hordes will come if this one succeeds

lexsird ago

Well, that's going to take time to build, in the meantime we've got a "Once more to the breach dear friends." situation.