IsaacJan ago

The fact the shills are in this thread en masse show there's something they want "corrected". If nothing else I'm sure they stole it now because of these faggots.

just_browsing ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-establish-vote-fraud-commission-n757796

The judge did not evaluate the claims, he just said he didn't have jurisdiction. The facts in Moore's claim have not been refuted.

So who has jurisdiction?

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/01/why-the-government-classified-elections-as-critical-infrastructure/513122/

Since Obama declared Federal Elections to be Critical Infrastructure in an Executive Order, our elections are now a National Security issue, subject to investigation by the Department of Homeland Security and/or President Trump's Voter Fraud Commission.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-establish-vote-fraud-commission-n757796

The question is, is Roy Moore the guy we really want these tested out on? With everyone retiring or resigning for sexual harassment charges and the headache his campaign has been, I'm not sure he is worth it.

Wildebeest ago

I'm not one of those people that think share blue is behind every leftist argument on voat, but holy shit the mobilization in this post is astounding, and makes me reconsider the idea of paid opposition and wonder why they're so scared by this announcement by Moore

Norseman ago

AL SoS said this morning that at 1pm they are anointing Doug Jones the win anyway. He refused to even take Moore's claims seriously.

literallyoprah ago

Because they aren't serious. Roy Moore is a salty pedophile who lost the election fair and square, and has no legitimate proof of voter fraud. He's just salty he lost and/or needs to maintain plausible deniability so he can go on speaking tours for conservative cucks.

just_browsing ago

https://www.scribd.com/document/367998949/Roy-Moore-Complaint I await your point-by-point disputation, including the part about him having completed a polygraph test denying the allegations you Libs keep spamming.

SChalice ago

you Libs keep spamming

Um, his accusers admit to being GOP

just_browsing ago

How does one prove themselves to be GOP?

Are GOP and Moore synonymous?

What candidate did the GOP want?

Were the accuser's lawyers GOP?

Were the authors of the stories GOP?

Was the accuser herself "spamming"?

Are you GOP?

IiteraIIyoprah ago

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+beat+a+polygraph

Polygraphs aren't scientific proof of deception, they are easy to beat, and Roy probably never took one and will never release the actual results.

Done. Pedophile Roy Moore has throughly cucked you if you actually think bullshit social science is valid, and I won't waste time arguing with someone who is so unable to critically think for themselves that they believe the results of fake social science that EVEN SOCIAL SCIENTISTS have debunked and can be provable faked.

just_browsing ago

If they are so easy to fake, his accuser should take one.

ErrantCognition ago

To be fair they are easy to pass while blatantly lying. Been there, done that. Still the "allegations" were fairly obviously politically motivated slander

just_browsing ago

My understanding is they are easy to disrupt and make "inconclusive", which isn't the same as "passing".

ErrantCognition ago

The results are usually phrased as whether or not it is likely you were "truthful." Often, people commissioning a poly will consider inconclusive a soft-failure, and usually require you to take it again. When I say I've passed I do mean that I was found to have been truthful.

The thing about them, too, that people don't realize is that the polygraphers aren't "out to get you," so to speak. They act under the presumption that you are being truthful and then notify whomever ordered the polygraph if there were indications that you were lying. The interpretation of the measurements are reckoned against the control questions, as well as body language and the impact of each individual question. All you have to do is create an alternate reality in your head, and doublethink yourself into understanding that is the truth, and simply be "honest." Then, as some pro strats, you can convince yourself that you are going to fail during the control questions to bring up your heart rate a little. From the time you walk in the building until the time you leave you need to be calm and know that you are going to pass.

Most of it comes down to being a scare tactic to get people to admit the truth; you can easily fail if you're prone to anxiety despite being completely truthful, but they also obviously know that people get nervous, especially on "important" questions. Everything is kept to a simple yes/no, and the language is very careful, and beforehand you go over all the questions to address all the ambiguity and questions you might have.

All the bullshit costs you a few hundred bucks, too.

just_browsing ago

upvoted for detail

Food_Stamp ago

Wow shareblue is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Did all of the shills who weren't retarded leave to get real jobs?

Kannibal ago

I think we could say the same about why Moore lost, He lost despite fraud in his favor.

See also the infamous loss of Romney to Obama and why Karl Rove Freaked out.

Both sides try to game the system one way or another.

Republicans try to limit turnout in areas where they are at a disadvantage, making it harder to vote in general compared to their own districts. Less polling stations, for example.

Hillary didn't listen to the advice of Bill or Barack, and paid for it with her loss. They both knew she was in trouble in the firewall states. So her own arrogance did her in.

speedisavirus ago

Uh, there is literally 0 evidence of fraud in favor of Moore however plenty of it for fraud against him and Trump.

SChalice ago

I think the fraudulent evidence is that he was just going to show the little girl a good time and not rape her.

Kannibal ago

because it is totally a coincidence that there are less voting stations in democratic areas in Alabama.

Damn them for showing up and insisting on voting.

Stayedclassy ago

Out of curiosity what is the penalty for voter fraud in the US?

Perhaps Trump should crack down on this a little lot.

speedisavirus ago

Pretty sure it's a felony to coordinate an effort with some 10-20 year sentence. Individual penalties are a couple years in prison and a small fine.

IiteraIIyoprah ago

it's a felony

So is being a salty pedophile like Pedophile Roy.

literallyoprah ago

Salty Pedophile Roy lost the election fair and square, because he is an incompetent child abuser.

All you salty manlets need to stop being cucks, nut up, and stop crying about your hurt fee-fees and imaginary victim status for election fraud that never happened.

just_browsing ago

Roy Moore denied these allegations and passed a polygraph. Did his accuser pass a polygraph test?

And if there was such an indisputable and horrific crime, why didn't she go to police?

IiteraIIyoprah ago

passed a polygraph

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+beat+a+polygraph

LOL holy shit you're an easily manipulated cuck. Polygraphs are Fake Science invented by bullshit social scientists with less scientific validity than gender theory you confirmed virgin.

why didn't she go to police?

Because police are rapist apologists, especially for white men who rape little girls.

just_browsing ago

If it is so easy to fake, why didn't his accuser take one? Your other answer shows you are just an irrational SJW.

IiteraIIyoprah ago

why didn't his accuser take one

Because it's not court admissable evidence. IT doesn't matter what the result is, you can't draw a scientifically valid conclusion from the results and it doesn't change the status quo. You can draw a false positive or fake it out completely.

just_browsing ago

Then why do the alphabet agencies use them to screen applicants if they are of no value?

Are the "intelligence" agencies "so unable to critically think for themselves that they believe the results of fake social science that EVEN SOCIAL SCIENTISTS have debunked and can be provable faked"?

Your dismissive arguments still don't account for the fact: he took one and his accuser didn't, most likely because she made up the whole thing and was compensated for it.

And don't think I forgot you are an irrational SJW.

Also, unironically using "social scientist" further proves you are an SJW. I wonder what the reproducibility of "Social Science" is? 30%? Less?

asg101 ago

Moore just came in a little behind, you would think he would be happy.

SChalice ago

lol have an upgoat

Kannibal ago

The same argument could be used to argue that trump won through voter fraud and should be removed.

We cant have that kind of thinking.

Wildebeest ago

If Trump committed voter fraud then why is there such resistance to his investigation of voter fraud?

Kannibal ago

because he doesn't want people investigating his own voter fraud,

Climhazzard ago

Oh shit that is almost as bad as the policy (what policy? exactly)

isn't it better to have people arguing about things that are non-policy? Get with the program.

p0ssumsAlt ago

So then the strictest Voter ID law in the nation is useless against fraud .... things that make you go hmmm. Perhaps we should scrap all voter ID laws if they don't stop fraud.

This man, like you folks, appears to be a sore loser.

edistojim ago

Between the smear campaign and the democrat voter fraud Moore never stood a chance.

Dark_Shroud ago

He actually did pretty good when you consider how much money they spent smearing him and then busing people in.

sguevar ago

I hope he gets it and that Jones is removed.

literallyoprah ago

Salty Pedophile Roy lost the election.

Get over it you soy-boi crybaby.

Mjazz ago

What's with the salty bit? You keep repeating that.

IiteraIIyoprah ago

It's funny because it triggers snowflake autists who's pedophile candidates lost in an Embarrassingly humiliating defeat to Republicans.

sguevar ago

No need to debate with a lefty tranny. All the claims have been debunked and there is more than enough evidence that fraud took place. If he still has a chance to fight it I will pray for him to get it.

literallyoprah ago

Aww, is the poor little soy-boi cuck sad his pedophile candidate lost the election in a humiliating defeat? Stop crying, faggot. Roy Moore lost. Get ready to ride the blue wave! If you cucks can't even hold Alabama, you're fucked for anything even remotely competitive, lol. Say Bye-bye to any meaningful legislative victories now that Trump has been thoroughly cucked by Blacks

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH salty faggot!

sguevar ago

Wow you are so eloquent when you write. You are so clearly balanced by your hormone treatment. I am so roasted here by all you write. I simply have no comebacks to give... Oh wait yes I do: the GOYIM KNOW that you are a tool of the zionists. The GOYIM KNOW that you are here to shill because you are paid so little to do your work's worth... That is nothing. And you will have the pleasure of not suffering censorship despite your shilly nature here. That bothers you. That burns your guts. The GOYIM KNOW it will be a long 8 years for you. Buh-bye tranny boy. Oh and BTW, there are only 2 genders. ^_^

IiteraIIyoprah ago

Boo-hoo WAHHHHHHHHHHH Salty satly boo-hoo

Cry more salty soy-boi! Your tears, they are delicious! Lol

Dark_Shroud ago

It's always nice to know how much our labels bother you lefty faggots.

Trying to call any of us soy-boys isn't going to cut is to the emotional core as it does you & yours.

sguevar ago

hahahaha told you guys he is laughable :)

RoBatten ago

We will see. Are you afraid of what the results of verifying the vote count will be?

literallyoprah ago

I'm afraid that Roy Moore will get a speaking deal out of this and tour across America dehydrating people with his salt and raping teenagers.

DrPenguin ago

Me too. Either way I want the honest results and to know if any fuckery was afoot.

BlackSheepBrouhaha ago

Has Q ever come true?

guinness2 ago

Many times, although some predictions aren't verifiable at this time.

Feel free to do some homework if you are sincerely interested.

Here's a fairly up to date list of every QAnon post...

...You'll need to keep a close eye on political news to understand which posts have been validated because often random comments turn out to be exact copies of things that President Trump tweets a few mins later and seemingly random codes turn out to be flight numbers etc.

QAnon deliberately keeps his posts cryptic because he can't use the specific names of politicians and business people and military code-names because CIA artificial intelligence will pick that up too fast.

I recommend the Destroying The Illusion YouTube channel and watching a number of videos that discuss Q.

BlackSheepBrouhaha ago

I watched Alex Jones's video on Q. He's someone with the same information as Alex's source, Andrew, but not him. Either Secret Service or White House Staffer who travels with the president on Air Force One. Too much detail for me to think it's second hand information.

I'm just ready for the Storm.

guinness2 ago

Yes, there is way too much info, yet I'm addicted. I'm currently watching a series of flights that were turned back to USA because passengers were hiding on board the wrong flights... to be arrested by police. Also there has been a YUGE amount of flights landing in Guantanamo Bay... days after Mattis did his first inspection there. President Trump was asking in an interview during the week "Has anyone seen Podesta recently?". These are all still unconfirmed and possibly unrelated events, but it's been so much fun to watch ALL of the other events transpire WHILE they were happening.

Oh_Well_ian ago

that's AL_ANON on the first link

don't know who that is

the_magic_man ago

A 4chan screenshot. All the evidence. If you're an idiot

guinness2 ago

No, QAnon posts evidence every day, including predicting exact phrases that President Trump tweets a few minutes later.

I'm sorry you are so ignorant, but I have to admit it is funny! 'Like poking a pig with a stick to hear is squeal.

Also, can you give us an update on when "Mueller time" will happen?

Ha ha ha!

Cry harder, faggot.

captainstrange ago

I used to think the Q Anon poster was legit too--until I saw a post where he posted 'before' the president--but it turns out the timezone meant Q Anon's post actually came after the president's.

That post basically destroyed any doubt that Q Anon is some larper.

guinness2 ago

Fair enough, but for me, the ability for QAnon to name the airport that would be shut down and the nationality of the failed pipebomb terrorist and the train derailment and other Trump tweets before he sent 'em... makes me keep an open mind...

captainstrange ago

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Wasn't aware he predicted the airport shutdown. What happened with that? When did he predict it? Did he predict the exact airport? How far before hand? Did he make the prediction after the training drill the week prior to the incident?

What about the pipebomb attempt?

Or the train derailment?

I'd like to know.

0rion ago

This response right here is the reason nobody takes this Q LARP seriously anymore...you all act like 12 year olds.

Dark_Shroud ago

Well you can spend the time to watch this:

"Exclusive: The Secrets of QAnon, The Storm, and The Deep State Counterstike" - infowars.com

0rion ago

InfoWars? Really? Now I know it's a LARP. Be very wary of information that comes from (((Alex Jones))).

guinness2 ago

Nah, I just don't take @the_magic_man, who is a Shareblue posting cunt, seriously.

That said, you too are free to ignore QAnon... If you expect me to be responsible for your intellectual development, then I'm happy for you to stay ignorant... or you could ask a productive question if you are sincerely interested in learning something.

It's up to you, not me...

Just don't blame me for your ignorance.

0rion ago

He's definitely an idiot shill. But he makes a good point in this case.

When the Swamp gets drained, I'll come back and admit I was wrong. But until then, I consider this to be a bullshit LARP. Just my opinion, you're free to believe whatever you'd like. There's no need for you to get triggered and hurl insults over a difference of opinion.

But since you're so into asking questions, here's one for you: do you truly believe that if this info leaked, it would be on 4chan, in a series of posts spread out over 2 months with an ever shifting narrative?

guinness2 ago

There's no need for you to get triggered and hurl insults.

Incorrect: I can express myself freely and you have my permission to do the same.

do you truly believe that if this info leaked, it would be on 4chan, in a series of posts spread out over 2 months with an ever shifting narrative?

Sure.

4 Channel and 8 Channel are perfectly for anonymous discussions.

That is precisely what they were deigned to do: to use tripcodes to completely conceal the identity of posters.

That said, the chans are also considered to be groups of Autistic geniuses - the types of people who find the "He Will Not Divide Us" flag based on the shapes of clouds in the sky of photos.

QAnon explained that he intentionally obscures his posts as a series of cryptic questions for two reasons: to complicate the efforts of the CIA AIs that scan for posts containing key words such as the names of prominent senators... and because he can use future posts to unlock the full meaning of past posts... to possibly avoid being tried for leaking classified info.

heygeorge ago

types of people who find the "He Will Not Divide Us" flag based on the shapes of clouds in the sky of photos.

The flag was found due to a location stamped Facebook post, not because of clouds in the sky. (I'm not slagging your larger point.)

heygeorge ago

I'll have to check that out. Thanks, guin! Saved for later.

0rion ago

So let's assume all that is 100% true for the sake of the argument. The question then becomes: why? What is the end game? What will this ultimately accomplish?

guinness2 ago

QAnon is leaking because President Trump needs to let his "believers" know to have faith... in the same way that President Trump uses Twitter to undermine the globalist fake news narrative.

I expect it's strategic... to keep people engaged rather than thinking that AG Sessions and FBI Director Wray have literally been sleeping all year.

bourbonexpert ago

can you imagine?

the screeching and trashcans tipped over if they gave it to moore? msnbc? that racist joy reid? oh it would be so glorious to watch!!!

PaulBSmith ago

Yes, subverting democracy is fine as long as you get to upset the liberals. This type of rhetoric is why Donald Trump only has a 29% approval rating, and lost the title of most admired man in America to Barack Obama, who is sadly no longer president.

SJWs_R_FAAAGS ago

What's it like to walk around with the ex nigger presidents cock in your mouth?

speedisavirus ago

It's almost like subverting democracy would actually be the voter fraud idiot liberals admitted to committing already

Jimbonez_Jonez ago

Sadly? The man had two full terms. If you're hoping he got more time, you're fundamentally anti-american. Possibly anti-semetic as well....

Reported for anti-semetism. You'll hear from the SPLC soon.

HarlandKornfeld14 ago

"when they speak democracy, they don't mean government by the people...they mean financial democracy, in which money counts and nothing but money."-Oswald Mosley

This is the neoliberal system you are defending. This is the 'democracy' you speak of, rather you realize it or not.

bourbonexpert ago

damn...i thought i blocked you...oh well, geus ill double check.

SChalice ago

your echo chamber is broken

bourbonexpert ago

I don’t have an echo chamber faggot, I just hate liberals.

DrPenguin ago

Are you more worried about election fraud or your candidate getting in office? If he has evidence, let him present it IMO. Keep believing those polls tho. It worked out well in '16...

captainstrange ago

most admired man in America to Barack Obama, who is sadly no longer president.

that line killed me. Paul, I don't know how you typed that with a straight face.

Wildebeest ago

He is actually right, there was a Gallop poll released yesterday, 17% Obama 14% Trump. What I though was interesting is Hillary's big drop this year.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/224672/barack-obama-hillary-clinton-retain-admired-titles.aspx

captainstrange ago

And you trust gallup over your gut?

Better idea, go ask ten people you know--even though the sample size is below the margin of error, you'll still get a more accurate answer--because the bigger poll is horseshit.

Wildebeest ago

I don't trust Gallup to poll themselves on what they had for breakfast and get it right without being told what it was, I was just pointing out what he was referring to.

captainstrange ago

I don't trust Gallup to poll themselves on what they had for breakfast

This is bumper-sticker worthy.

HarlandKornfeld14 ago

I want to believe.

IiteraIIyoprah ago

Too bad, Roy Moore is a pedophile and Doug Jones got confirmed. Game over salty crybaby.

LDIP ago

Proof or kys

mightnotbearobot ago

Imagine his shock to find out that the people of Alabama didn't actually want to elect a paedo and it wasn't fraud.

speedisavirus ago

There is the fact he isn't a a pedophile, so there is that.

mightnotbearobot ago

What is your opinion of the current Hollywood sexual assault accusations?

Wildebeest ago

That they have nothing to do with the allegations against Moore

mightnotbearobot ago

So you believe or dismiss allegations depending on who it is aimed at? You are part of the problem.

Wildebeest ago

I didn't say anything remotely close to that and you know it.

mightnotbearobot ago

You don't find it funny that the same people defending Moore and Trump from allegations of noncing and rape are the same people who will believe a random accusation from whomever as long as it is against a "LIBERURAHLL?"

You must think PizzaGate is bullshit because it is all based on conjecture, right? Right?!

Wildebeest ago

I started to write a response, but this is the second time that you put words in my mouth, so I'm going to choose not to engage with you anymore. Have a wonderful day.

mightnotbearobot ago

Oh, go on, do please. I promise I won't reply.

SChalice ago

Intelligent sociopaths can do great work when unhindered by things like morals.

Wildebeest ago

I don't like Moore for other reasons, but the timing of these allegations is more than suspicious, come back to me when there's something other than he said/she said decades late and a forged yearbook.

Wildebeest ago

I was referring to evidence of your paedo claim and you know it.

literallyoprah ago

forged yearbook.

If a rapist signed my yearbook after he raped me, I would also annotate his rapist signature with the date.

Wildebeest ago

If that was the case then why did they take so long for her to fess up to her "annotation"?

Dark_Shroud ago

Why wouldn't you go to the Police if you were raped?

SChalice ago

He was the police at the time.

CujoQuarrel ago

He was a horrible candidate.

porkings ago

Embarrassment to the GOP.

CujoQuarrel ago

He's just a self promoting asshole.

Still voted for him

SChalice ago

This may be the single biggest reason why the government is so fucked up. People, like you, willingly voting for assholes.

CujoQuarrel ago

Did you see the alternative?

CujoQuarrel ago

The other choice was worse.

mightnotbearobot ago

Trump supported him until he lost.

CujoQuarrel ago

Only because he had to. Any other republican would have won easily.

SChalice ago

Because Trump is so loyal to Republicans?

Suggesting that Trump has to DO ANYTHING goes against most Voater's ideas about him.

CujoQuarrel ago

The Repubs have a very very thin margin. If 'Bama had just picked a normal candidate they'd have won easily. Moore has too much baggage.

HarlandKornfeld14 ago

Charnin, who says he has three degrees in applied mathematics, is a prominent figure among believers that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy was the result of a conspiracy. He has also argued that the Republicans stole the 2004 presidential election and that Hillary Clinton stole the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination.

I'm not so sure about 2004. But as far as the other two I'm like "where's the lie tho"?

Apathy ago

Maybe they meant 2000 and that whole Florida fiasco.

Dereliction ago

Yeah, I read that and think, "So this guy is totally legit." For that matter, he might be right on 2004 as well.

HarlandKornfeld14 ago

I curious how your figure the election 2004 was stolen. We've all heard stuff about 2000, but not really 2004.

Dereliction ago

On the afternoon of election day 2004, the world was abuzz with the news: exit polls indicated that John Kerry would decisively win the election and become the next president of the United States. That proved not to be the case.

According to the official count—the number of votes tallied, not necessarily the number of votes cast—George W. Bush beat Kerry by a margin of three million votes. The exit polls, however, had predicted a margin of victory for Kerry of five million votes. Occurrences of vote manipulation, vote suppression, and outright election fraud were alleged at the local level in many precincts throughout Ohio and other "battleground" states.

Source: Was the 2004 Presidential Election Stolen?: Exit Polls, Election Fraud, and the Official Count

aGameCalledCountries ago

I think Democrats will always lie about whose leading the (((polls))).

Dereliction ago

Republicans, especially Bush/Cheney, are no strangers to lies.

just_browsing ago

The ABC version of the article also talked about how he blogged about Seth Rich. Sounds to me like he is someone who is actually paying attention.

lexsird ago

You go Roy.

literallyoprah ago

The state of Alabama will never have to buy salt again, with all the salty tears Pedophile Roy is crying XD.

You salty soy-bois need to get over the fact that your Pedophile candidate lost humiliatingly and embarrassingly to a Democrat

slevin_kelevra ago

The only thing you have right here is capitalizing Pedo and Democrat. One in the same.

KEKjudo ago

Who the fuck are these assholes and why are they on Voat

WhoshKaPow ago

((they)) are upset about the state of their lives and are trying to drag people down to their sad sad level.. just be nice (if you can) or ignore them.. that’s what really gets to them.. being ignored in a conversation about politics, pizzagate, president Trump ect

the_magic_man ago

The truth hurts

KEKjudo ago

Does it? Or are you just being a little bitch again?

the_magic_man ago

Your the one crying because the pedo you love lost.

KEKjudo ago

Awe is someone projecting again? How cute.

SChalice ago

People who openly support pedophiles are sick individuals

Landrictree ago

Hi, Shareblue friend!

IiteraIIyoprah ago

Hi Salty incel!