See, but you're twisting words around to fit your flawed logic. He didn't say they "let me get away with it", which implies they were assaulted but failed to report it.
His exact words were:
I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
followed by:
Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.
And you are seriously going to tell me that doesn't describe sexual assault?
This whole conversation is fucking retarded to begin with though. It was such an ambiguous conversation that there's nothing specific or concrete to be inferred from it.
Actually, there is, you can easily infer our new president is a fucking creeper. If the man wasn't a famous billionaire and did this, what then?
The only reason we're even still talking about it is because you people are so religious about regurgitating whatever lame talking point the TV tells you.
All I did was point out, correctly, that what he said is the textbook definition of sexual assault. Period.
Considering the length of his career, and his fame; had there been any dirt of any serious description, Clinton's campaign would have been broadcasting it from the rooftops during the Election itself.
Aside from the odd stupid comment there obviously is nothing bad enough to derail his popularity. Like him or not, no one can argue with that.
More than that... wouldn't it have been leaked? They're leaking anything else they can, you'd expect this would be A-Number 1 Top Priority for the globalist "deep state" that wants to ruin Trump.
Appreciated, I didnt think so I have been following closely, just one thing i have learned over the last year is keep an open mind never know when you have had your head in an echo chamber for so long you miss half the story.
Ermahgerd, tax returns! -Am I the only one that doesn't give a fuck about them or think he isn't comparable to past presidents since he has so many business ties? I don't think they're squeeqy clean but they check out well enough for the IRS and he has no incentive to release them and give ammo to his enemies.
Trump could definitely be compromised. In that case the lack of humiliation would mean that he was playing ball with the current elites. Picking a bunch of Goldman Sachs guys for his cabinet isn't a very encouraging sign.
Trump has been working towards this for years, any dirt that could exist doesn't. Picture him like an old school mob boss, every one around him handles the dirty work without a word being said, nothing is ever written down and any loose lips are swimming in the Hudson.
The worst proveable thing he's guilty of is wanting to grab lady liberty by the pussy an making her great again.
The deep state has been perfectly willing to illegally leak phone conversations between Trump and the PM of friggin Australia in its quest to discredit Trump.
The lack of hard "Trump is a Putin puppet" evidence being leaked cannot be explained away as the deep state trying to stay legal. They obviously have zero problems with breaking the law.
Im a woman and i dont even care that he said 'grabbed her by the pussy' 20 or so years ago (i think?). Guys talk like that. It doesnt mean they are all rape happy domestically violent douche bags. Id much prefer to see these things hurting our children stopped. Than whinning about a comment made before i was in highschool. The Irony is straight up disgusting
You know the tape was from 10 years ago? What if one of these gaming people runs for president and a tape comes out later from their gaming days a decade ago?
It's just trash talk. Dig your panties out of your cooch and go find a real cause. Like keeping muslims from stoning gay people or something.
Unless Im mistaken, the law was the same, or relatively close 10 years ago.
What are you talking about? Bragging isn't the same as doing. Do you really think these people saying they shagged my mom really did it? Claiming to do something isn't illegal. BTW, I shot JFK.
Absolutely correct. I never said he did it, not once. Even though there may be some evidence of that. All I did was point out, correctly, that what Trump was saying is by definition, sexual assault.
Theres a slight difference between boasting about sexual conquest vs sexual assault. Trump joked about the latter, not the former.
Sorry to hurt your little fee fees with facts and stuff.
Oh spare me, he joked about TV stars and rich guys getting laid easily
There's a difference between saying I can get laid anytime I want and talking about sexually assaulting a woman. Period. You can make any excuse you'd like, but facts are facts. What he described is the textbook fucking definition of sexual assault.
It was crass and bold talk that was kinda immature but not all that unusual.
So you and you friend often talk about grabbing women by their pussies? Seriously? Would you be OK if some random dude did it to your wife or daughter ... or only if he's a billionaire?
Grow the hell up, he didn't talk about groping some random wife or daughter, he talked about kissing and feeling up gold diggers and actresses and such impressed by fame and wealth.
Like I said, it's crass and emotionally immature, but isn't uncommon. And doing so to women who are in agreement because you're rich/famous isn't sexual assault.
I don't talk like that, neither do the majority of my acquaintances, but I've known many men over the years who did and still do. It's also true that many low women are impressed with or actively seeking wealthy and powerful men and will gladly accept them due to their fame and money.
Grow the hell up, he didn't talk about groping some random wife or daughter, he talked about kissing and feeling up gold diggers and actresses and such impressed by fame and wealth.
LO fucking L, assumes facts not in evidence, [citation needed].
Like I said, it's crass and emotionally immature, but isn't uncommon.
Yes, it is pretty much. Im 50 years old and have NEVER talked like that or been around people that did. Sure, I've talked dirty and nasty, but assaulting someone is something else entirely.
And doing so to women who are in agreement because you're rich/famous isn't sexual assault.
Yes, if you do it against their will, or without their knowledge, it is by DEFINITION sexual assault. Again, if someone performed those actions against your wife or daughter, you'd take the man out. Yet, somehow with Trump it's OK, because he's rich or he's famous.
It's also true that many low women are impressed with or actively seeking wealthy and powerful men and will gladly accept them due to their fame and money.
Again, just because the GET AWAY with it, doesn't mean a crime is not commited. A child that doesn't report molestation was still molested, just like a woman who doesn't report sexual assault was still assaulted.
I get it, you want the god-emporer to be without fault, but that's just not true. Again, facts are facts, and the only facts, we actually have are Trump talking about sexually assault women. It doesn't matter if they are gold diggers, it doesn't matter if they are actresses with an agenda, it's still sexual assault. What's funny is you won't even admit that much, will you? Will you, at the very least, admit that what he is talking about is sexual assault?
There's this magical thing, it's called "Google", and it will help your ignorant ass find what people who actually want t know things have already seen, a transcript of the conversation and the context within which it occurs.
I get it, you want the god-emporer to be without fault
BWAA-HA-Ha-hahahaha, you people are such entertaining morons. Sure, I voted "Anyone-but-Hillary" and I'm willing to give it a couple of years and see what happens, but I don't really give a shit about Trump any more than I give a shit about you.
a transcript of the conversation and the context within which it occurs.
Please show me the gold digger part, I'll wait.
And no, it isn't "sexual assault", there is no sexual assault with consent you idiot.
Letting you get away with it and consenting to it are two completely different things. Consent infers prior knowledge. Don't believe me, ask your wife or daughter(or a lawyer). So, then you admit, without consent, what he is talking about IS sexual assault, correct?
Go away schmuck, ya bother me. Mainly because intense stupidity bothers me. Lots of things are illegal under very particular and narrow circumstances that are otherwise legal. There is no crime being discussed here, and your mental gymnastics won't make it one.
Go away schmuck, ya bother me. Mainly because intense stupidity bothers me.
So you hate yourself, that explains a lot!
LOL you simply cannot admit it can you. Now that you're backed into a corner, you realize how truly stupid and insipid your argument sounds so you lash out. Too funny, I'll bet if someone did it to your mom, wife or daughter, you'd have a bit of a different take ...
You're a fucking hypocrite plain and simple ... talk about mental gynastics.
I'm not "backed into a corner" you idiot, you're trying to create a crime out of thin air by ignoring the context completely. Nobody is going to do that to my wife or daughter under those circumstances because they're not Hollyweird trash who would be agreeable to such antics, no matter how rich/famous the man was, so people like Trump and Billy Bush wouldn't try it. Read the transcript, duh, the woman is playing right along with them.
I'm not "backed into a corner" you idiot, you're trying to create a crime out of thin air by ignoring the context completely
Yes, you are. Trump exact words were "grab them by the pussy", I said, that describes sexual assault. To which you responded(brilliantly I might add) NOT WITH CONSENT IT ISNT. So then I posited a simple question to you, absent consent, are the actions Trump described sexual assault? And you don't even admit to that, even though it is literally the textbook definition of sexual assault. Denying the facts, doesn't change that they are true and it doesn't change the law.
Nobody is going to do that to my wife or daughter under those circumstances because they're not Hollyweird trash who would be agreeable to such antics, no matter how rich/famous the man was, so people like Trump and Billy Bush wouldn't try it. Read the transcript, duh, the woman is playing right along with them.
So, then what you are saying is that people in a position of power, or rich cannot commit sexual assault as long as the victim doesn't report it. Right, that IS what you are saying?
Except that it doesn't if the female consents to the behavior and consenting females is what he's talking about, it's in the conversation.
So, then what you are saying is that people in a position of power, or rich cannot commit sexual assault as long as the victim doesn't report it. Right, that IS what you are saying?
No, I'm saying that groping someone who is agreeable to the action isn't going to consider that sexual assault, and neither is the law. I'm also saying that the determining factor for whether or not such an action is a crime is not some dipshit on the internet saying it was, it's whether or not the groped person took action or lodged a complaint because that particular type of crime is circumstance dependent and requires non-consent to an otherwise legal action for it to be a crime.
Trump's statements about wealth and power are accurate, under the right circumstances, because there are women, and men as well for that matter, who will do virtually anything for a shot at getting a share of the wealth and power. The ones who willingly use/comply with sexual behavior solely for a shot at the money are commonly known as gold-diggers, by the way.
Except that it doesn't if the female consents to the behavior and consenting females is what he's talking about, it's in the conversation.
No, CONSENT infers prior knowledge, that is NOT what we have here, by Trumps OWN admission:
I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it.
That is not CONSENT. For consent there MUST be prior knowledge. Letting someone get away with it, and consenting to it are two COMPLETELY different things. Again, ask a lawyer.
No, I'm saying that groping someone who is agreeable to the action isn't going to consider that sexual assault, and neither is the law.
“I was angry and shaken,” she continued. “He was pissed. He couldn’t believe a woman would pass up the opportunity.” She added that he seemed to feel “entitled” to kiss her.
and, it continues ... to a witness:
The Guardian heard accounts that matched Heller’s from two other people: Susan Klein, the friend who was emailing with Heller, and a relative seated at the table with Heller that day. The relative, who declined to be named for fear of retaliation, recalled that Heller sat back down with a stunned look on her face.
“I remember she was really freaked out,” said the relative. The relative didn’t see Heller’s entire interaction with Trump, but saw him get “in her face” and saw Heller pull away. “He was very forceful … She really was definitely affected by this man who was very aggressive toward her.”
And she isn't the only one. And this is another story with another independent witness, while not of the situation, she did tell others about it when it happened and it's been corroborated. Heres another one, again, with an witness she told about the encounter BEFORE Trump ran for president.
Now, please show me how these gold diggers consented to his behavior. Not reporting it, and CONSENTING to it are different, you would agree?
Wow, Gloria Allred? All she does these days is hold press conferences and talk smack, right?
Gee, whatever happened to these cases? I mean, this all disappeared just like the accusations against Herman Cain did, except this time nobody backed down from her media circus.
Here, go learn what "consent" is, because you have no friggin' clue:
LOL, and I spent all that money to go to Georgetown and get a law degree, damn, what a waste of money.
THIS contains the US Code for Sexual Assault which states:
The term “consent” means a freely given agreement to the conduct at issue by a competent person. An expression of lack of consent through words or conduct means there is no consent. Lack of verbal or physical resistance or submission resulting from the use of force, threat of force, or placing another person in fear does not constitute consent. A current or previous dating or social or sexual relationship by itself or the manner of dress of the person involved with the accused in the conduct at issue shall not constitute consent.
Fear of career reprisals has been held as proof of coercion. Coercion != consent.
You can pull any mental gymnatics you like, according to the law, and the stories that we have, it is clearly sexual assault. I will not say that they are true, that is not the point, my point from the very start is that what Trump describes is sexual assault. That statement is just as correct now, as it was when we started this conversation, and all your bluster, bullshit and inability to accept reality don't change the facts. If you don't believe me, go ahead and try the behavior Trump describes at the mall, any mall you like. What do you think will happen?
Umm, dumbass? The woman who Billy Bush and Trump were meeting when they had that conversation consented by your own definition.
Fear of career reprisals has been held as proof of coercion.
There was no fear of career reprisals in this conversation/situation, go read the fucking transcript you moron.
The only bullshit here is yours, you don't have a Georgetown law degree and you're not a lawyer, if you were you wouldn't be arguing this stupid shit, you're just some schmuck posting from your mom's basement.
The woman who Billy Bush and Trump were meeting when they had that conversation consented by your own definition.
What the fuck do you mean? Please for the love of everything holy, please please please explain to me how she consented. I REALLY want to hear this one, I love a good fairy tale.
There was no fear of career reprisals in this conversation/situation, go read the fucking transcript you moron.
I've read the transcript and I never ONCE said anything specifically about the woman IN the conversation. And that doesn't matter. the behavior he describes is STILL sexual assault even IF you don't believe it. Crazy, I know. Also, I notice how you conviently ignore ALL the other instances I posted about, why is that? Ignoring the evideence doesn't make you right, it makes you stupid. Again, don't believe me, try it yourself and let me know know long your sentence is.
The only bullshit here is yours, you don't have a Georgetown law degree and you're not a lawyer, if
I never said I was a lawyer, did I? Because I am not a lawyer, but i DO in fact, hold a law degree. I just figued out that trying to explain to the law, to idiots clients like yourself was more than I could handle, so I minored in IT.
If you were you wouldn't be arguing this stupid shit, you're just some schmuck posting from your mom's basement
LOL, son, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Your stupid surrounds you like a fog and protects you from reality like you own little super hero.
And a bit of friendly advice, don't EVER act as your own lawyer, you'll end up in the chair, regardless of the offense.
Were done here son, there's no fixing your kind of stupid.
Were done here son, there's no fixing your kind of stupid.
No, we were done when I mistakenly answered your first post and I've just been killing time chatting with stupid ever since.
I'm not your son, you haven't schooled me, and you're just as wrong as you were when we started.
Ignoring the evideence doesn't make you right, it makes you stupid
I see your "Georgetown law degree" didn't teach you how to proof read or spell, it also appears to have not taught you what "evidence" is either.
You'll never learn anything by ducking reality like you do when you dodged the issues with Gloria Allred or the fact that Trump has sued/been sued thousands of times over all sorts of things, settling most, winning many, and losing a few, and yet he has never been successfully sued for any shit like this. Probably because there's been no actual evidence, just another media ploy by Gloria Allred, who shames and settles far more clients than she ever actually takes to court. I'll bet you bought her Herman Cain bullshit too, didn't you? Because guys like you never question anything that fits you narrative.
Sure, Trump is kinda sleazy, but that has little bearing on being President. LBJ whipped his dick out in front of some reporters, Bill Clinton played hide the cigar with Monica Lewinsky in the oval office, so some high-school-locker-room type sexual trash talk is really pretty minor.
Still doesn't mean it's not sexual assault. They don't let them do it because they want it, they let them do it because the alternative would likely be ruin for them. Ask a lawyer. This is pretty simple stuff. Prove me wrong.
“I was angry and shaken,” she continued. “He was pissed. He couldn’t believe a woman would pass up the opportunity.” She added that he seemed to feel “entitled” to kiss her.
and, it continues ... to a witness:
The Guardian heard accounts that matched Heller’s from two other people: Susan Klein, the friend who was emailing with Heller, and a relative seated at the table with Heller that day. The relative, who declined to be named for fear of retaliation, recalled that Heller sat back down with a stunned look on her face.
“I remember she was really freaked out,” said the relative. The relative didn’t see Heller’s entire interaction with Trump, but saw him get “in her face” and saw Heller pull away. “He was very forceful … She really was definitely affected by this man who was very aggressive toward her.”
And she isn't the only one. And this is another story with another independent witness, while not of the situation, she did tell others about it when it happened and it's been corroborated. Heres another one, again, with an witness she told about the encounter BEFORE Trump ran for president.
But I know you are impervious to facts ... so there isn't much I can do, except prove you wrong. However, Im sure this is insufficient evidence for you...
Can you search through these articles and show me when and how these women, asked or consented to his behavior?
Them came out BECAUSE he said what he said. Thats a perfect catalyst to come out, especially if they told someone else about it. It makes perfect sense. Read the article so you can at least know what it is you're going to ignore.
you haven't done a thing to prove me wrong ... on anything. Calling me a shill, while ignoring the evidence only serves to makes you look ignorant. Which is exactly what I expected and predicted. Thank for being so predictable. We're done here.
Hillary Clinton is behind several child trafficking rings. She illegally colluded with the media to gain the DNC nomination. She robbed the people of Haiti and raped a 12 year old girl.
They aren't looking for legit problems, just shit they can MAKE look bad. They don't give a shit if he could end world hunger and bring peace to all. MSM puts its agenda before the country, the people, and the good of the world.
Can't remember which interview but just a couple days ago, they were saying that it is a fact Trump messed with things in Russia during the election. Their words were something like 'He did this because ALL of the agencies believe that's what happened'. It seems to be a common denominator in this. Trump keeps getting condemned because of what so called authorities 'believe'. I have yet to see evidence such as that which actually proves Hillary and John P. were involved in a money laundering scheme with Russia. They keep showing us evidence for the democrats that prove things and quoting rumors against Trump. Each day I am more amazed at peoples stupidity in believing rumors and ignoring facts.
I was always taught that silence is agreement. While republicans have been quiet in a mature and intelligent way as democrats have thrown their long drawn out temper tantrum, it seems it is time for republicans to get LOUD! President Trump deserves our support.
For you. Unfortunately, that does nothing to show support. It just shows a lack of courage. Being loud and being out of line are two different things and easily distinguished by said adults.
Yes! This has been one of my points brought up into conversation, constantly, since his campaigning.
'If there's something out there on him, we'll know before primaries. Okay, before the election day for sure. Any day now. Any time. No? Before Inauguration, most definitely. No? Hmm.'
I think that's something that is pissing people off more than anything. There isn't a definable "here, look at this"" moment that he's left behind for people to unravel.
Gincrich himself said Trump was not part of the establishment, hasn't gone through the "initiation rites" In other words no pictures of him with kids for blackmail.
https://youtu.be/JgnAWY0RoeE
wikileaks said they got into his emails. said it was no worse than anything he's said publicly. aka the worst thing trump has done is boast about getting pussy
Yup, all he said is they would LET you grab them by the pussy if you want. He pointed out that star struck bimbos like to have sex with famous people, and the media had a heart attack because HRC told them to. Meanwhile Anderson Cooper is up in NYC fucking 18 year old boys and no one gives a fuck.
I think you should begin to look at those agencies I listed and the MSM as the root of our problems. Protesters, especially the violent ones, are on the payroll, the narrative is controlled in the media and rightfully frustrated people like yourself are being deflected towards an arbitrary and vague entity known as THE LEFT. It's perfect crowd control. The enemy isn't a bunch of weak and emotional 'cucks'. It's ruthless and powerful people.
I have a lot of friends and family in the NSA, and I used to teach a class that trained them to build their first radio. So I've spend a lot of time with hundreds of current NSA members. What you say about the NSA taking orders from oligarchs is not true. How many NSA members do you know?
I agree. A "cuck" is someone who thinks it's great to watch their wife fuck another guy. If you think that will make your wife love you more, you are a mistaken fool, or cuck. The same could be said for people who vote for a "drain the swamp" candidate who puts billionaires on his cabinet and foxes in charge of the hen houses. The same could be said for people promised a trillion dollars of infrastructure that wasn't in the budget. They don't care that if the benefits of administration pass to another. They think it's great to watch their own government be destroyed, to watch their own environment be poisoned (by undisputed poisons not just CO2). Those people are, by definition, cucks.
p0ssum ago
Yes, I hate when people use facts and stuff to point out that Im full of shit .....
Have a blessed day of ignorance.
p0ssum ago
His exact words were:
followed by:
And you are seriously going to tell me that doesn't describe sexual assault?
Actually, there is, you can easily infer our new president is a fucking creeper. If the man wasn't a famous billionaire and did this, what then?
All I did was point out, correctly, that what he said is the textbook definition of sexual assault. Period.
Kannibal ago
The MSM hasn't done a lot of real digging because he was mostly a local NYC celebrity for a long time.
however, this is changing, people are really starting to dig, and it is getting interesting.
see for example, this long read
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/06/trump-putin-and-the-new-cold-war
aria_taint ago
This is why liberal heads were exploding during the election.
me_buttare_via ago
Considering the length of his career, and his fame; had there been any dirt of any serious description, Clinton's campaign would have been broadcasting it from the rooftops during the Election itself.
Aside from the odd stupid comment there obviously is nothing bad enough to derail his popularity. Like him or not, no one can argue with that.
epsilona01 ago
More than that... wouldn't it have been leaked? They're leaking anything else they can, you'd expect this would be A-Number 1 Top Priority for the globalist "deep state" that wants to ruin Trump.
Bitchybadger ago
If there was "dirt" on President Trump the media would be dry humping the shit out of it.
prairie ago
They have to create the script first. This takes time.
LostandFound ago
Appreciated, I didnt think so I have been following closely, just one thing i have learned over the last year is keep an open mind never know when you have had your head in an echo chamber for so long you miss half the story.
MelissaAssange ago
There is no proof-no evidence that Russia hacked the DNC. We know Wiki leaks was given the Hilary E mails by a DNC insider.
Kannibal ago
well how long did it take to dig up the dirt on Hillary?
And with 30+ investigations, no charges were ever filed. Just a lot of noise and thunder to no effect.
remedy4reality ago
lol oh boy..
You are in for a rude awakening.
Kannibal ago
Trump has changed everything, and has quashed the prosecution of Clinton.
The magic 8 Ball is more reliable in predicting the future
Aniabub ago
They would have used it to win the election
Onlio ago
Don't forget about the army of reporters who were hired full-time just to dig up dirt on Trump.i don't think they found what they wanted
greyhunter4 ago
Ermahgerd, tax returns! -Am I the only one that doesn't give a fuck about them or think he isn't comparable to past presidents since he has so many business ties? I don't think they're squeeqy clean but they check out well enough for the IRS and he has no incentive to release them and give ammo to his enemies.
common_sense ago
Not necessarily, if I was an elite with some dirt on him I would hold it over him as blackmail.
remedy4reality ago
he's unraveling the NWO and everything they've built over the last 30 years
-- just in case you were not aware it
common_sense ago
Or that's what they're making it seem to be.
remedy4reality ago
please.. there is no way they would they hang out everything that is PIZZAGATE
It's completely exposed them and it's spreading like virus over their dominion.
doubleherpes ago
Trump could definitely be compromised. In that case the lack of humiliation would mean that he was playing ball with the current elites. Picking a bunch of Goldman Sachs guys for his cabinet isn't a very encouraging sign.
remedy4reality ago
they had an equally difficult time finding a single person in Haiti who the Clinton Foundation benefited
Mr_Wolf ago
Trump has been working towards this for years, any dirt that could exist doesn't. Picture him like an old school mob boss, every one around him handles the dirty work without a word being said, nothing is ever written down and any loose lips are swimming in the Hudson.
The worst proveable thing he's guilty of is wanting to grab lady liberty by the pussy an making her great again.
HoocOtt ago
To add to this premise:
The deep state has been perfectly willing to illegally leak phone conversations between Trump and the PM of friggin Australia in its quest to discredit Trump.
The lack of hard "Trump is a Putin puppet" evidence being leaked cannot be explained away as the deep state trying to stay legal. They obviously have zero problems with breaking the law.
123_456 ago
Oh, the irony of the liberals picking on Trump for being sexual. They're the ones pushing for pedophilia, yet him making a joke about pussy is wrong.
Aniabub ago
Im a woman and i dont even care that he said 'grabbed her by the pussy' 20 or so years ago (i think?). Guys talk like that. It doesnt mean they are all rape happy domestically violent douche bags. Id much prefer to see these things hurting our children stopped. Than whinning about a comment made before i was in highschool. The Irony is straight up disgusting
123_456 ago
Yup. The worst thing he did was make a joke about grabbing a pussy.
p0ssum ago
Theres a slight difference between boasting about sexual conquest vs sexual assault. Trump joked about the latter, not the former.
Mylon ago
And people boast about sexually assaulting my mom every night in the gaming arena. It's not a big deal.
p0ssum ago
Those xboxers aren't President of the United States, so yeah, it matters.
Mylon ago
You know the tape was from 10 years ago? What if one of these gaming people runs for president and a tape comes out later from their gaming days a decade ago?
It's just trash talk. Dig your panties out of your cooch and go find a real cause. Like keeping muslims from stoning gay people or something.
p0ssum ago
Unless Im mistaken, the law was the same, or relatively close 10 years ago.
Then it comes out and they'll deal with the consequences? What the fuck point are you trying to make here?
Yeah, I know, people that point out facts are SO annoying.
Mylon ago
What are you talking about? Bragging isn't the same as doing. Do you really think these people saying they shagged my mom really did it? Claiming to do something isn't illegal. BTW, I shot JFK.
p0ssum ago
Absolutely correct. I never said he did it, not once. Even though there may be some evidence of that. All I did was point out, correctly, that what Trump was saying is by definition, sexual assault.
Sorry to hurt your little fee fees with facts and stuff.
ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
Oh spare me, he joked about TV stars and rich guys getting laid easily. It was crass and bold talk that was kinda immature but not all that unusual.
p0ssum ago
There's a difference between saying I can get laid anytime I want and talking about sexually assaulting a woman. Period. You can make any excuse you'd like, but facts are facts. What he described is the textbook fucking definition of sexual assault.
So you and you friend often talk about grabbing women by their pussies? Seriously? Would you be OK if some random dude did it to your wife or daughter ... or only if he's a billionaire?
ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
Grow the hell up, he didn't talk about groping some random wife or daughter, he talked about kissing and feeling up gold diggers and actresses and such impressed by fame and wealth.
Like I said, it's crass and emotionally immature, but isn't uncommon. And doing so to women who are in agreement because you're rich/famous isn't sexual assault.
I don't talk like that, neither do the majority of my acquaintances, but I've known many men over the years who did and still do. It's also true that many low women are impressed with or actively seeking wealthy and powerful men and will gladly accept them due to their fame and money.
p0ssum ago
LO fucking L, assumes facts not in evidence, [citation needed].
Yes, it is pretty much. Im 50 years old and have NEVER talked like that or been around people that did. Sure, I've talked dirty and nasty, but assaulting someone is something else entirely.
Yes, if you do it against their will, or without their knowledge, it is by DEFINITION sexual assault. Again, if someone performed those actions against your wife or daughter, you'd take the man out. Yet, somehow with Trump it's OK, because he's rich or he's famous.
Again, just because the GET AWAY with it, doesn't mean a crime is not commited. A child that doesn't report molestation was still molested, just like a woman who doesn't report sexual assault was still assaulted.
I get it, you want the god-emporer to be without fault, but that's just not true. Again, facts are facts, and the only facts, we actually have are Trump talking about sexually assault women. It doesn't matter if they are gold diggers, it doesn't matter if they are actresses with an agenda, it's still sexual assault. What's funny is you won't even admit that much, will you? Will you, at the very least, admit that what he is talking about is sexual assault?
ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
There's this magical thing, it's called "Google", and it will help your ignorant ass find what people who actually want t know things have already seen, a transcript of the conversation and the context within which it occurs.
BWAA-HA-Ha-hahahaha, you people are such entertaining morons. Sure, I voted "Anyone-but-Hillary" and I'm willing to give it a couple of years and see what happens, but I don't really give a shit about Trump any more than I give a shit about you.
I mean, here's a transcript of the thing, its just typical Hollywood/rich guy sleaze:
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-bush-transcript-20161007-snap-htmlstory.html
And no, it isn't "sexual assault", there is no sexual assault with consent you idiot.
kneo24 ago
I applaud your effort at explaining context, but this person is an obvious shill.
I guess I could buy that there are people this fucking stupid, but chances are they're just a shill.
ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
Yeah, the stupid is strong in that one, shill or not.
p0ssum ago
Please show me the gold digger part, I'll wait.
Letting you get away with it and consenting to it are two completely different things. Consent infers prior knowledge. Don't believe me, ask your wife or daughter(or a lawyer). So, then you admit, without consent, what he is talking about IS sexual assault, correct?
ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
Go away schmuck, ya bother me. Mainly because intense stupidity bothers me. Lots of things are illegal under very particular and narrow circumstances that are otherwise legal. There is no crime being discussed here, and your mental gymnastics won't make it one.
p0ssum ago
So you hate yourself, that explains a lot!
LOL you simply cannot admit it can you. Now that you're backed into a corner, you realize how truly stupid and insipid your argument sounds so you lash out. Too funny, I'll bet if someone did it to your mom, wife or daughter, you'd have a bit of a different take ...
You're a fucking hypocrite plain and simple ... talk about mental gynastics.
ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
I'm not "backed into a corner" you idiot, you're trying to create a crime out of thin air by ignoring the context completely. Nobody is going to do that to my wife or daughter under those circumstances because they're not Hollyweird trash who would be agreeable to such antics, no matter how rich/famous the man was, so people like Trump and Billy Bush wouldn't try it. Read the transcript, duh, the woman is playing right along with them.
p0ssum ago
Yes, you are. Trump exact words were "grab them by the pussy", I said, that describes sexual assault. To which you responded(brilliantly I might add) NOT WITH CONSENT IT ISNT. So then I posited a simple question to you, absent consent, are the actions Trump described sexual assault? And you don't even admit to that, even though it is literally the textbook definition of sexual assault. Denying the facts, doesn't change that they are true and it doesn't change the law.
So, then what you are saying is that people in a position of power, or rich cannot commit sexual assault as long as the victim doesn't report it. Right, that IS what you are saying?
ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
Except that it doesn't if the female consents to the behavior and consenting females is what he's talking about, it's in the conversation.
No, I'm saying that groping someone who is agreeable to the action isn't going to consider that sexual assault, and neither is the law. I'm also saying that the determining factor for whether or not such an action is a crime is not some dipshit on the internet saying it was, it's whether or not the groped person took action or lodged a complaint because that particular type of crime is circumstance dependent and requires non-consent to an otherwise legal action for it to be a crime.
Trump's statements about wealth and power are accurate, under the right circumstances, because there are women, and men as well for that matter, who will do virtually anything for a shot at getting a share of the wealth and power. The ones who willingly use/comply with sexual behavior solely for a shot at the money are commonly known as gold-diggers, by the way.
p0ssum ago
No, CONSENT infers prior knowledge, that is NOT what we have here, by Trumps OWN admission:
That is not CONSENT. For consent there MUST be prior knowledge. Letting someone get away with it, and consenting to it are two COMPLETELY different things. Again, ask a lawyer.
So then all these women were agreeable to it?
Summer Zervos(ex-Apprentice alum) is suing Trump.
How about the other women that came forward:
and, it continues ... to a witness:
And she isn't the only one. And this is another story with another independent witness, while not of the situation, she did tell others about it when it happened and it's been corroborated. Heres another one, again, with an witness she told about the encounter BEFORE Trump ran for president.
Now, please show me how these gold diggers consented to his behavior. Not reporting it, and CONSENTING to it are different, you would agree?
ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
Wow, Gloria Allred? All she does these days is hold press conferences and talk smack, right?
Gee, whatever happened to these cases? I mean, this all disappeared just like the accusations against Herman Cain did, except this time nobody backed down from her media circus.
Here, go learn what "consent" is, because you have no friggin' clue:
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Consent
p0ssum ago
LOL, and I spent all that money to go to Georgetown and get a law degree, damn, what a waste of money.
THIS contains the US Code for Sexual Assault which states:
Fear of career reprisals has been held as proof of coercion. Coercion != consent.
You can pull any mental gymnatics you like, according to the law, and the stories that we have, it is clearly sexual assault. I will not say that they are true, that is not the point, my point from the very start is that what Trump describes is sexual assault. That statement is just as correct now, as it was when we started this conversation, and all your bluster, bullshit and inability to accept reality don't change the facts. If you don't believe me, go ahead and try the behavior Trump describes at the mall, any mall you like. What do you think will happen?
ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
Umm, dumbass? The woman who Billy Bush and Trump were meeting when they had that conversation consented by your own definition.
There was no fear of career reprisals in this conversation/situation, go read the fucking transcript you moron.
The only bullshit here is yours, you don't have a Georgetown law degree and you're not a lawyer, if you were you wouldn't be arguing this stupid shit, you're just some schmuck posting from your mom's basement.
p0ssum ago
What the fuck do you mean? Please for the love of everything holy, please please please explain to me how she consented. I REALLY want to hear this one, I love a good fairy tale.
I've read the transcript and I never ONCE said anything specifically about the woman IN the conversation. And that doesn't matter. the behavior he describes is STILL sexual assault even IF you don't believe it. Crazy, I know. Also, I notice how you conviently ignore ALL the other instances I posted about, why is that? Ignoring the evideence doesn't make you right, it makes you stupid. Again, don't believe me, try it yourself and let me know know long your sentence is.
I never said I was a lawyer, did I? Because I am not a lawyer, but i DO in fact, hold a law degree. I just figued out that trying to explain to the law, to
idiotsclients like yourself was more than I could handle, so I minored in IT.LOL, son, you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Your stupid surrounds you like a fog and protects you from reality like you own little super hero.
And a bit of friendly advice, don't EVER act as your own lawyer, you'll end up in the chair, regardless of the offense.
Were done here son, there's no fixing your kind of stupid.
ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
No, we were done when I mistakenly answered your first post and I've just been killing time chatting with stupid ever since.
I'm not your son, you haven't schooled me, and you're just as wrong as you were when we started.
I see your "Georgetown law degree" didn't teach you how to proof read or spell, it also appears to have not taught you what "evidence" is either.
You'll never learn anything by ducking reality like you do when you dodged the issues with Gloria Allred or the fact that Trump has sued/been sued thousands of times over all sorts of things, settling most, winning many, and losing a few, and yet he has never been successfully sued for any shit like this. Probably because there's been no actual evidence, just another media ploy by Gloria Allred, who shames and settles far more clients than she ever actually takes to court. I'll bet you bought her Herman Cain bullshit too, didn't you? Because guys like you never question anything that fits you narrative.
Sure, Trump is kinda sleazy, but that has little bearing on being President. LBJ whipped his dick out in front of some reporters, Bill Clinton played hide the cigar with Monica Lewinsky in the oval office, so some high-school-locker-room type sexual trash talk is really pretty minor.
p0ssum ago
done.here
ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago
Wow, you even lie to yourself, it's no wonder you don't actually understand what's going on and couldn't hack law school.
dontdoxxmefaggots ago
https://youtu.be/l8U0IaMsRf4?t=1m11s
"And when you're a star they let you do it."
p0ssum ago
Still doesn't mean it's not sexual assault. They don't let them do it because they want it, they let them do it because the alternative would likely be ruin for them. Ask a lawyer. This is pretty simple stuff. Prove me wrong.
dontdoxxmefaggots ago
You're asking me to prove a negative. There's 0 people suing Trump for sexual assault.
What kind of white knight faggots thinks those girls didn't want it?
p0ssum ago
BZZZT. WRONG ANSWER!!1! FAKE NEWS!!1!!
Summer Zervos(ex-Apprentice alum) is suing Trump.
How about the women themselves:
and, it continues ... to a witness:
And she isn't the only one. And this is another story with another independent witness, while not of the situation, she did tell others about it when it happened and it's been corroborated. Heres another one, again, with an witness she told about the encounter BEFORE Trump ran for president.
But I know you are impervious to facts ... so there isn't much I can do, except prove you wrong. However, Im sure this is insufficient evidence for you...
Can you search through these articles and show me when and how these women, asked or consented to his behavior?
dontdoxxmefaggots ago
Amazing how none of this came out in the past 20 years and only surfaced when Trump was about to shit all over clinton
p0ssum ago
Them came out BECAUSE he said what he said. Thats a perfect catalyst to come out, especially if they told someone else about it. It makes perfect sense. Read the article so you can at least know what it is you're going to ignore.
dontdoxxmefaggots ago
saying something wrong over and over again doesn't make you right, shill
p0ssum ago
you haven't done a thing to prove me wrong ... on anything. Calling me a shill, while ignoring the evidence only serves to makes you look ignorant. Which is exactly what I expected and predicted. Thank for being so predictable. We're done here.
dontdoxxmefaggots ago
Hillary Clinton is behind several child trafficking rings. She illegally colluded with the media to gain the DNC nomination. She robbed the people of Haiti and raped a 12 year old girl.
Prove me wrong.
p0ssum ago
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/58/12/00/5812007ab9fece3a5d1e4fd9bf99582d.jpg
dontdoxxmefaggots ago
p0ssum ago
Done.Here
jonnythaiwongy9 ago
He said, when ur famous they LET you do anything, you can grab em by the pussy.
p0ssum ago
Which is sexual assault:
Just because they LET him get away with it(he could likely destroy any career they might have, if they don't), doesn't mean it wasn't assault.
MONKEYBUSINESS ago
I hope you get raped so you have a real concern in your life.
p0ssum ago
Go fist your mum some more...
jonnythaiwongy9 ago
True, I spose it depends how it actually goes down
TrollMagnet ago
They aren't looking for legit problems, just shit they can MAKE look bad. They don't give a shit if he could end world hunger and bring peace to all. MSM puts its agenda before the country, the people, and the good of the world.
HeavyBeefCurtain ago
Remember the super rape accusations? They buried that one too.
remedy4reality ago
yes... affairs and homosexuality don't carry the same leverage that they used to, hence the switch to child rape and murder as a blackmail device
rodental ago
There's likely dirt on him, just nothing that isn't fairly banal. He's not a pedocannibal like John Podesta.
Z11Mama ago
Can't remember which interview but just a couple days ago, they were saying that it is a fact Trump messed with things in Russia during the election. Their words were something like 'He did this because ALL of the agencies believe that's what happened'. It seems to be a common denominator in this. Trump keeps getting condemned because of what so called authorities 'believe'. I have yet to see evidence such as that which actually proves Hillary and John P. were involved in a money laundering scheme with Russia. They keep showing us evidence for the democrats that prove things and quoting rumors against Trump. Each day I am more amazed at peoples stupidity in believing rumors and ignoring facts.
remedy4reality ago
It's all baseless propaganda intended to undermine him and set the stage for impeachment or worse.
Z11Mama ago
I was always taught that silence is agreement. While republicans have been quiet in a mature and intelligent way as democrats have thrown their long drawn out temper tantrum, it seems it is time for republicans to get LOUD! President Trump deserves our support.
Approved ago
Quietly going about your business like an adult, while the left rolls around on the floor screaming "Noooooooo!!" is the correct response.
Z11Mama ago
For you. Unfortunately, that does nothing to show support. It just shows a lack of courage. Being loud and being out of line are two different things and easily distinguished by said adults.
goatsandbros ago
Well, OP, you see, the RUSSIANS....
Yeah, you're right.
DabbaDan ago
Compared to fucking kids, murdering people and performing weird and rather unmentionable rituals - dude's practically Amish.
DabbaDan ago
He made two mistakes. Being white, and being a male.
kneo24 ago
A FUCKING WHITE MALE
lucifirius ago
And running against Hillary.
remedy4reality ago
nahhh... the Establishment would have been happy with Mitt Romney or Jeb Bush
His mistake was not being blackmailed and compromised.
Aniabub ago
Thats a good point.
superAIDS ago
Rookie mistake.
DabbaDan ago
Yes! This has been one of my points brought up into conversation, constantly, since his campaigning.
'If there's something out there on him, we'll know before primaries. Okay, before the election day for sure. Any day now. Any time. No? Before Inauguration, most definitely. No? Hmm.'
I think that's something that is pissing people off more than anything. There isn't a definable "here, look at this"" moment that he's left behind for people to unravel.
Mr_Quagmire ago
MSM... dig? I think you mean spoonfed by "sources."
MadWorld ago
He wasn't initiated to the ring of clusterfuck. So (((they))) cannot blackmail him.
remedy4reality ago
it's clear as day / It's time to get behind this President shut this shitstorm down
Sinsimel ago
Gincrich himself said Trump was not part of the establishment, hasn't gone through the "initiation rites" In other words no pictures of him with kids for blackmail. https://youtu.be/JgnAWY0RoeE
EarlPoncho ago
wikileaks said they got into his emails. said it was no worse than anything he's said publicly. aka the worst thing trump has done is boast about getting pussy
common_sense ago
They should release them anyway.
TrollMagnet ago
Yup, all he said is they would LET you grab them by the pussy if you want. He pointed out that star struck bimbos like to have sex with famous people, and the media had a heart attack because HRC told them to. Meanwhile Anderson Cooper is up in NYC fucking 18 year old boys and no one gives a fuck.
LostandFound ago
When did wikileaks say that, i was not aware of this. Seems like double standard of that's the case
EarlPoncho ago
assange said it on hannity's radio show before i know
Shekelstein6M ago
Trump doesn't use email...
Ciscogeek ago
It's enough fuel to anger cucks.
remedy4reality ago
I think you should begin to look at those agencies I listed and the MSM as the root of our problems. Protesters, especially the violent ones, are on the payroll, the narrative is controlled in the media and rightfully frustrated people like yourself are being deflected towards an arbitrary and vague entity known as THE LEFT. It's perfect crowd control. The enemy isn't a bunch of weak and emotional 'cucks'. It's ruthless and powerful people.
freddymercury ago
I have a lot of friends and family in the NSA, and I used to teach a class that trained them to build their first radio. So I've spend a lot of time with hundreds of current NSA members. What you say about the NSA taking orders from oligarchs is not true. How many NSA members do you know?
Kannibal ago
One congressman believes the weekly pay is 1500 dollars/week
How many people are getting this paycheck?
And even the Tea Party had some help in the beginning.
Tea_I_Am ago
I agree. A "cuck" is someone who thinks it's great to watch their wife fuck another guy. If you think that will make your wife love you more, you are a mistaken fool, or cuck. The same could be said for people who vote for a "drain the swamp" candidate who puts billionaires on his cabinet and foxes in charge of the hen houses. The same could be said for people promised a trillion dollars of infrastructure that wasn't in the budget. They don't care that if the benefits of administration pass to another. They think it's great to watch their own government be destroyed, to watch their own environment be poisoned (by undisputed poisons not just CO2). Those people are, by definition, cucks.