Five Classic Pieces Of False Logic The Right Uses In Order To Promote Gun Culture. (politics)

submitted ago by donarty

1) Guns are a form of protection.

Shields, armour and helmets protect you. Guns shoot toxic pieces of lead into other people.

2) Guns are a form of self-defence.

They can be, sure. However, statistically speaking, more guns are used in crimes than are used in self-defence.

A study of gun use in the 1990s, by David Hemenway at the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, found that criminal use of guns is far more common than self-defense use of guns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

Obviously, potential criminals are going to purchase guns if they are legal. Therefore, you make a useless trade: increased personal protection for increased need for it. The only logical outcome of that trade is more people will die.

3) I don't trust the government.

If the government wants to get you, then your Dirty Harry handgun is not going to stop them. End of story.

4) A 100 lb woman shouldn't have to struggle with a 300 lb rapist.

But you can't arm the victim without simultaneously arming the rapist. So, instead of a rape occurring, which is consequently then investigated by the people whose job it is to investigate rapes, you have a bloodbath. Maybe the rapist gets killed, maybe the victim gets killed, maybe they both get killed, or maybe innocent bystanders get killed.

There are alternative ways to deal with rapists which are final, much safer, and do not end in loss of life.

5) Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Then it is a stupid idea to give them guns then, isn't it? Unless you are trying to make fucking sure.

Any thoughts?

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xeemee ago

most flawed "logic" ever

1) Guns are a form of protection.

Shields, armour and helmets protect you. Guns shoot toxic pieces of lead into other people.

ah, ok, so when i throw my gun in the garbage and someone - with a gun - breaks into my home, all i need to do is slap on my bullet-proof vest, right?

a hammer can be used to drive a nail in or pull it out

a gun can be used to attack OR defend

2) Guns are a form of self-defence.

They can be, sure ...

sorry for wasting your time on point #1 - i see you've already contradicted it all by your self

3) I don't trust the government.

If the government wants to get you, then your Dirty Harry handgun is not going to stop them. End of story.

sounds like something i heard before somewhere ... from the mouths of dictators

4) A 100 lb woman shouldn't have to struggle with a 300 lb rapist.

But you can't arm the victim without simultaneously arming the rapist.

except the rapist is ALREADY armed, or do you have an ingenious plan where by you can ensure that criminals, who don't obey laws (criminals ... get it?), will be willing to turn in their guns AND agree to not purchase any more (on the black market) ... yeah, that's what i thought ... [silence ensues]

5) Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Then it is a stupid idea to give them guns then, isn't it?

so we give criminals guns? well shit, let's "just say no" to that right now!

Any thoughts?

mmmhmmm ... go back to fuckin' rEddit where you fucking belong