1) Guns are a form of protection.
Shields, armour and helmets protect you. Guns shoot toxic pieces of lead into other people.
2) Guns are a form of self-defence.
They can be, sure. However, statistically speaking, more guns are used in crimes than are used in self-defence.
A study of gun use in the 1990s, by David Hemenway at the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, found that criminal use of guns is far more common than self-defense use of guns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
Obviously, potential criminals are going to purchase guns if they are legal. Therefore, you make a useless trade: increased personal protection for increased need for it. The only logical outcome of that trade is more people will die.
3) I don't trust the government.
If the government wants to get you, then your Dirty Harry handgun is not going to stop them. End of story.
4) A 100 lb woman shouldn't have to struggle with a 300 lb rapist.
But you can't arm the victim without simultaneously arming the rapist. So, instead of a rape occurring, which is consequently then investigated by the people whose job it is to investigate rapes, you have a bloodbath. Maybe the rapist gets killed, maybe the victim gets killed, maybe they both get killed, or maybe innocent bystanders get killed.
There are alternative ways to deal with rapists which are final, much safer, and do not end in loss of life.
5) Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
Then it is a stupid idea to give them guns then, isn't it? Unless you are trying to make fucking sure.
Any thoughts?
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senpaithatignoresyou ago
This is one of the silliest arguments i have ever heard.
You want to outlaw guns? ok then. But be prepared for: PRESIDENT FOR LIFE DONALD TRUMP.
Why can i say that? because the republicans are just 2 states away from having enough state legislatures to be able to pass any amendments to the constitution that they want.
The 2nd amendment was the fail safe to make sure people where not trapped in a tyranny. Sure one guy with a dirty harry handgun might not be enough against the government, but 10 million? Have you looked at our history with insurgencies? Do you know how much money, logistics, and manpower it takes to put one of those down? On top of UN responses, or foreign aid?
Then there are the other aspects too. IF we can remove an amendment, like the 2nd, what else can we remove? Can we repeal other amendments too? What happens if the eugenicists become a popular majority, and decide that blacks and other inferior people should not be allowed to vote? what then? Off to the camps they go, if they even get camps. Who can stand up to the government then? you going to make a sign and complain? Good luck with that. Maybe you will be lucky and they just execute you, and not your family and friends as well.
How are we going to make guns illegal? we can't even outlaw weed, meth, or sex trafficking. How the fuck are we supposed to outlaw guns? what other rights must the OP lose to feel safe(but not be safe)? You don't need a 3d printer, you just need an end mill, and those are more common than 3d printers.
Op has no fucking clue about the real world. I would advise op to get out and travel more.
xeemee ago
you diss'd the Donald and you're 14 and 0?
i think you escaped the wrath of voat by showing up late to the party
ps: i was the 14th
senpaithatignoresyou ago
Oh, no. This is a very potent anti gun magic spell to use on the lefties now. They go from being anti gun retarded to "he is gonna kill the gays!!!!!!!!!!1111111111" retarded.
Despite having an openly gay German billionaire helping his transition....
But hey, if they could read and comprehend what they read, then they would not be lefties, or have massive student loan debt while being unemployed.