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think- ago

What does that mean? The news reports that Girardi was a NXIVM lawyer were wrong? Or he hasn't been on the team of lawyers anymore for some time?

@Vindicator

Vindicator ago

Well, I know the guy was having serious financial problems...perhaps they dropped him as a result? Not sure about that. This bears further investigation.

think- ago

This bears further investigation.

Yes, we should find out whether he really ever was a NXIVM attorney. Did Q allege he was? Is this the reason people started looking into him?

Vindicator ago

Here's the tweet that originated that claim: https://twitter.com/MilspecP/status/1093325051326353413. He says:

"What are the odd’s that the very building where we saw the mil op “training” take place, is owned by Lawyer Thomas Girardi, the guy who is handling the Allison Mack and Keith Raniere Sex Trafficking case.. https://youtu.be/slCN7oz-420 @IPOT1776 @StormIsUponUs @SGTreport"

And then shares an image of what looks like a search result for Erika Girardi of a Daily Mail piece that appears to link the Gerardis to NXIVM. I looked up the Daily Mail article in question, and there's nothing in it mentioning NXIVM. I think what must have happened is that MilSpec Ops Monkey must have seen the search result, not read the actual article, and not realized they were unrelated. He made a mistake.

When people asked for more evidence, he followed up with this tweet:

"im about to drop a thread on it. i need to do a clean up, he isnt connected legally, but he and his wife are DEF connected and in that circle. he also owns the building that was raided"

This morning he tweeted this: https://twitter.com/MilspecP/status/1094972606082703362

"Speculation; but we may have stumbled onto something BIG here: Note the similar name of the companies - Guatemalan House of Culture and NXIVM Rainbow Cultural Garden. Note they both operate in Guatemala. Note the connections." With this graphic.

And then he found a Yelp review of the Guatemalan House of Culture that looks just like NXIVM's Rainbow Cultural Garden child care pics and tweeted that:

"evidently at some point they had another location; but take a look at this from yelp - kids hands painted with rainbows"

I confirmed this picture is indeed listed for "Case de la Cultura de Guatemala" on Yelp: https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/casa-de-la-cultura-de-guatemala-los-angeles | https://archive.fo/y5zxy

There are a couple really good reviews about how they work with kids, including these that Yelp suppressed, and and a really bad review saying the guy is a scammer:

Mon B. Santa Clarita, CA

1.0 star rating 10/28/2012 First to Review

i would give this place 0 stars if i could!! man in charge is a liar, a robber, and gives out advice like he is a lawyer when he is only a stupid notary! stole $900 and will not give back documents i left with him until i pay another $900. do not waste ur time at this fucked up place!! already submitted complaint with bbb, this place is gonna be shut down!

Karin G. and 18 others voted for this review

What I can't tell from Monkey's tweets is whether the similarity of the Guatemalan House of Culture pics and name to the NXIVM Rainbow Cultural Garden childcare stuff is what led him to excitedly jump on that search result that put Gerardi and NXIVM in the same digest of Daily Mail articles without fully vetting it.

He seems to me like a pretty conscientious researcher, other than that one mistake.

It's also possible that he made the mistake deliberately (a strategy Trump uses on a regular basis, it should be noted) to create hype for the story (which it certainly did), either to create buzz to get people researching another arm of the Cabal, or to color our reporting on the Special Forces "training" with the taint of Fake News.

@Blacksmith21

Blacksmith21 ago

I caught all of that on MilSpec Monkey's Twitter. His wife Erika, from the Real Housewives, never missed a beat posting on Twitter: https://twitter.com/erikajayne - I would think if he was involved somehow, there would have been a social media disruption. Just an observation.

All of MSpM posts are good analysis, other than the very odd referral to the takedown operators as....I was about to castigate him for this mistake, but he corrected himself: https://twitter.com/MilspecP/status/1093910408681922560

Everything I've looked at supports the hypothesis that this was real, not training:

1) If this was a training exercise, it was extremely high risk and put civilians at risk. The military does not put multiple helos, flying on NVG, into domestic, civilian occupied areas to practice high risk maneuvers. Simulation would be preferred to this level of risk.

2) Delta Force/CAG/1st SFOD-D/etc is a counterterrorism unit. They aren't going to send in the pipehitters to arrest a mid-level criminal for _____. To conduct domestic operations, there must have been a very imminent threat - financial, physical, or cyber, to get approval to send in Nightstalkers and Operators.

3) Proximity to Wells Fargo offices (HQ is in SF). Major banking hubs are usually located along fiber/communication backbones for a variety of reasons. It is plausible this building sat on top of, or had access to, the fiber optics rights-of-way. Why is this important? https://techcrunch.com/2015/08/03/uncovering-echelon-the-top-secret-nsa-program-that-has-been-watching-you-your-entire-life/ - BLUF - Old tech allows fiber optic bundles to be TAPPED. Think robbing a bank with NSA-level tech.

4) Physical proof of a breach. MSpM had a follower perform recon on the site, photos show windows are boarded. My .02 - Anytime I have been involved with a training activity which damaged civilian property, there was a check waiting the minute the exercise was over. Owners were paid. Contractors were already at the ready to fix the damage. Let's keep an eye to see if this damage is repaired immediately, or if the damage left by the assaulters remains in disrepair.

My .02.

altalias ago

Someone posted pix from 10hrs ago that showed it still boarded up but a shredding company truck outside and someone on rooftop across street monitoring. Click Here

think- ago

Welll, thanks for putting all the effort in to get to the bottom of this, Vin! Much appreciated! :-)

The 'Rainbow Cultural Gardens' have a Guatemala branch IIRC, but then it's only one of many.

And 'House of Culture' is just a random name of some foreign country cultural outlet.

I think it's like you say, he might have seen a similarity where there isn't any, and didn't do a proper background research, like you did now. ;-) :-)

@letsdothis3

Vindicator ago

Yeah...this is how crowdsourced investigation works (normally, you'd have editors and/or producers verifying sources to help prevent this kind of false positive from happening. It does happen all the time, even to professionals.)

think- ago

Yeah...this is how crowdsourced investigation works

Yes. :-)