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NOMOCHOMO ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20631827

@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed @darkknight111

https://www.wehoville.com/2019/01/09/ed-buck-recounting-history/

I found the motherlode that clearly ties Ed Buck to Pizzagate back in 2017

https://www.wehoville.com/2019/01/09/ed-buck-recounting-history/

EDITOR’S NOTE: This story originally was published by WEHOville in April 2017. Ed Buck now is back in the news because of the discovery of a dead African-American man in his Laurel Avenue apartment on Monday. This story recounts the history of this prominent white and gay West Hollywood man.

Who is Ed Buck? Those who follow politics in West Hollywood know him as the guy whose successful campaign for a ban on fur sales helped propel City Councilmember John D’Amico into office in 2011. He’s also known for his tenacious digging into City Hall records to make a claim that credit cards were being misused. And he is known for his financial support for local, county, state and national Democratic Party candidates.

Another side to Buck has come to light lately with the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department announcing it is opening an investigation into the death in Buck’s Laurel Avenue apartment on July 27 of a young African-American man named Gemmel Moore, who was a self-confessed prostitute. The L.A. County Coroner’s Office had ruled the death an accident caused by an overdose of methamphetamine, a highly addictive and dangerous drug that is popular among some gay men. The Sheriff’s Department says that drugs and drug paraphernalia were found at Buck’s apartment.

That side of Buck has drawn little comment from local political figures, although the Stonewall Democratic Club, an LGBT political group, last week asked Buck to step down from his position on its steering committee. But it has attracted a lot of attention from the right-wing media here and abroad, including publications such as the Drudge Report; TruNews, a Christian news site; Political VelCraft, a right-wing conspiracy site, and Voat.com, a website that promotes conspiracy theories such as PizzaGate. Stories on those sites call out Buck’s financial support for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, his homosexuality, his alleged attraction to young African-American men and his alleged drug use.

Recently LGBT African-American activists also have begun to speak out, calling for an investigation into Moore’s death. Ashlee Marie Preston, the transgender African-American editor of “Wear Your Voice,” an online feminist publication, has written about an odd experience she had with Buck. “Moore’s death is centered around power dynamics, a wealthy white politico and his deadly fetishization of disenfranchised black men,” Preston wrote. And Jasmyne Cannick,a black communications and public affairs strategist, has called out Moore’s death on her website with the headline “Journal Documents How Wealthy Democratic Donor Hooked Young Black Gay Man on Meth Before His Death.”

Edward Bernard Peter Buckmelter (he changed his last name to Buck in 1983) was born into a middle-class family in Steubenville, Ohio, on Aug. 24, 1954. When he was six he moved with his parents, a brother and two sisters to Phoenix, Ariz. “My childhood was uneventful as hell,” he said in an interview with the Arizona Republic in June 1987.

Ed Buck in 1987 (Arizona Republic)

Buck attended a Catholic elementary school and graduated from North High School and Phoenix College. Buck has described his father as a “longtime alcoholic.” As a child, Buck himself was a handful according to his mother, who was interviewed in October 1987 by E.J. Montini of the Arizona Republic. “The dean of boys had a hot line to my phone at work,” she said, speaking of Buck’s high school years. “I’d answer the phone and say, ‘All right, what is it this time?’”

Buck came out to his parents as gay at the age of 16 and, while attending college, won a three-month internship that took him to Yugoslavia. In his profile, the Arizona Republic’s Montini says that a year after that Buck returned to Europe and was offered a spot as an extra in a TV commercial. Buck stayed in Europe for five years, living in Paris and Amsterdam, where he worked as a fashion model and appeared in movies and magazines. He also modeled in Japan for Wrangler jeans. Buck returned to Arizona in 1980 and began working for a friend as a bicycle courier.

In his interview with Montini, Buck said he worked for the Arizona franchise of Rapid Information Services, a business owned by a friend that provided driver’s license information to insurance companies. Despite his lack of business experience, and the business’s poor financial situation (his friend ran it out of a one-bedroom apartment), Buck saw great potential in it. A year and a half after joining and helping build the business, Buck bought it out of bankruptcy for $250,000 and renamed it Gopher Courier. Five years later he sold it for what he said in another interview was “more than a million dollars profit.”

Very wealthy at the age of 32, Buck took risks, opening a restaurant and getting into the pay telephone business, on both of which he lost money. He owned a $280,000 house on top of a hill near Squaw Peak (now known as Piestewa Peak), a mountain outside of Phoenix. He also, according to a story in the Gayly Oklahoman newspaper, had entered into a relationship with a Chippendale dancer.

Buck found new meaning in his life with the election in 1987 of Evan Mecham, a Republican, as Arizona’s 17th governor. Mecham was a controversial figure, not least because of his decision to end Martin Luther King Day as a paid holiday for state employees, his claim that high divorce rates were caused by women holding jobs and his description of African-American children as “pickaninnies.” Then there were the accusations that he misused state funds and failed to disclose a $350,000 campaign loan.

Ed Buck named Grand Marshal at the International Gay Rodeo’s 1989 Arizona event.

Buck launched a successful effort to impeach Mecham, leading the Arizona Republic to describe Buck as a “millionaire, self-acknowledged homosexual and registered Republican” who was “destined to go down in history as one of Arizona’s most unlikely political figures.”

The impeachment campaign was a rough one, with Buck attacked because he was gay. It also resulted in publicity about Buck’s arrest for “public sexual indecency” in an adult bookstore in 1983. Buck pleaded guilty and paid a fine, and the charge was dismissed. He claimed a cop had seen him grab the crotch of a friend. Buck also was called out for trying to get a drugstore to fill a fake prescription for Percocet, a highly addictive drug that contains oxycodone. In an interview in 1988 with the Washington Blade, Buck said he had made a copy of an existing prescription and needed to fill it because of pain from a root canal. Buck was indicted by a Maricopa (Ariz.) County grand jury on a charge of “attempting to obtain a narcotic through fraud or deceit.” A judge agreed to dismiss charges against Buck if he would be tested weekly for drug use for one year.

Given that Buck was openly gay, and that Mecham was known as homophobic (he once said during a radio interview that he would ask for a list of gay state employees, implying he would fire them), Buck became somewhat of an LGBT community hero. In 1989, for example, he was named Grand Marshal of the International Gay Rodeo in Arizona. Yet Buck didn’t identify with some parts of the gay community. In his interview with the Washington Blade, Buck criticized some for their flamboyance. “We dress up, we see guys in their best leather, others in their best dresses, marching down the street,” he said. “These people do not represent the majority of gay people, who would never wear costumes. And it drives the semi-closeted and moderate gay people underground.”

Switching Parties

In 1988 at a Republican Party conference in Oklahoma City, Buck called for changes in the party’s “intolerant” stand on LGBT rights in Oklahoma, which included opposition to state-mandated sex education programs in schools. Unable to make major changes in his political party, Buck soon switched allegiances. In an online post in 2010, he explained his decision. “I didn’t leave the Republican Party, it left me. I can remember Barry Goldwater saying ‘out of the boardroom and out of the bedroom’ when referring to the role of government. That’s the GOP I was a proud member of … My principals have not changed, but to keep true to them, my political party had to change.”

Vindicator ago

I found the motherlode that clearly ties Ed Buck to Pizzagate back in 2017 and Buck to Sexualizing Children in 1988.

Excellent. This is exactly why we flair posts. You are an excellent digger, Nomo. I wish you had just given DK a hand and posted this instead of creating drama.

NOMOCHOMO ago

The only reason I found it is because I was banned....Not because of either of your flairs.

I asked @Crensch a question. He repeatedly evaded with counter questions.

Ego, bruised from the questioning, He then made my membership dependent on proving another users' post.

Crensch's Unprecedented Whim became a user-specific guideline. A Dangerous Despotic Precedent

Repeating a question to a Mod is "baiting" them?

Different Mods hold different users to different standards?

The reason given for my ban is Rule 1: Relevance.

Even though you edited Rule 1 last night (cut/pasting "NSFW" from Rule 5), you didn't change "relevance" to apply to comments. It is a submission standard.

To ban a user for a comment that doesn't fulfill a submission guideline is comment censorship.

Because Relevance does not apply to comments. You changed Rule 5 from "NSFW" to "Comment Abuse" without notifying the pizzagate community.

I am shining a light on Moderation. Any scrutiny is framed as "drama".

Unban me. I broke no rules.

I wont break your Modified Rule 5, but please announce it.

Vindicator ago

Different Mods hold different users to different standards?

Wrong. I already explained this. I screwed up and failed to flair for Rule 1, because I forgot Buck's victims were all adults. Because we removed almost all of the Buck posts previously, @think- who knew I was away from the computer all day, pinged Crensch to change the flair. You keep spinning events to fit the narrative of unfair flairing, and you continue to ignore the fact that Crensch was right, you were wrong to argue with him about darkknight's post breaking Rule 1, and you abused the Comment section for your own egotistical ends.

I didn't edit Rule 1 -- I appended the NSFW rule to it without changing either one in any way so as to keep the number of rules the same. We have never used Rule 5 anyway. It was wasted space.

To ban a user for a comment that doesn't fulfill a submission guideline is comment censorship. Because Relevance does not apply to comments.

So you think you should have free rein to shit up other people's submissions with your rants about how bad you think moderation is, when we have an entire subverse for that because the whole community agreed they didn't want that stuff on the main board, because you know you'll get banned if you submit a shitpost to assuage your ego?

Illogical.

I am shining a light on Moderation. Any scrutiny is framed as "drama".

You are tearing down the community when you could have built it up -- as you just demonstrated in this submission. You were fully capable of helping DK fix his post, but instead of doing so, you got into a fight. Why did it take a ban to get you to do the right thing? You do realize, this argues in support of banning shitty behavior, right?

You changed Rule 5 from "NSFW" to "Comment Abuse" without notifying the pizzagate community.

I haven't had time to write up an discussion post yet, due to the same real life responsibilities that have kept me away from the board of late. But this has actually been in place for several months under the Sitewide Rules. If you check the banlog, you will see that Putt added the Voat User Agreement to the rule violations list moderators can cite some time ago, and Donkey was banned for comment abuse under that -- at the request of multiple users -- after he impersonated another user to discredit her research. @Crensch could have done the same in your case, though he chose to ban you for undermining the prime submission rule. There is not an option to click more than one rule in the ban interface.

We discussed the matter and agreed there should be a subverse rule that reflected the User Agreement requirement to Respect Other Users, since this has come up now several times recently, and the UA also tells mods "When you receive notice that there is content that violates this user agreement on subverses you moderate, you agree to remove it."

Unban me. I broke no rules.

You broke at least two. Crensch was pretty clear about what you need to do to have your posting privileges restored. It's up to you.

We have a subverse full of people who either are survivors or who are family or friends of people subjected to elite child rape. They have been here for years, contributing. It's a dick move to turn their hard work into your off-topic soapbox.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Wrong. I already explained this.

you previously said:

"while I was AFK, users DMed him that we had deleted most previous posts about Buck

this time, it's

@think- who knew I was away from the computer all day, pinged Crensch to change the flair

"User" to "users". Your story is changing. Why would @think private message Crensch to moderate, rather than comment and tag him publically. You are proving that ya'll do hold different users to different standards. Apparently some have back channel influence.

So you think you should have free rein to shit up other people's submissions with your rants about how bad you think moderation is?

QUIT MISCHARACTERIZING MY COMMENTS

"baiting" has become a "rant".

I merely QUESTIONED him

A. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20631962.

B. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632100

C. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632406

D.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632582

E. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632802

F. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632873

Putt added the Voat User Agreement to the rule violations list moderators can cite some time ago,

"When you receive notice that there is content that violates this user agreement on subverses you moderate, you agree to remove it."

Cite the user agreement rule I broke.

@Crensch could have done the same in your case

What users have asked for me to be banned? Who have I impersonated?

Vindicator ago

Users private message moderators about rule breaking submissions all the time. Your attempt to characterize this as nefarious shows a keen lack of understanding of the community.

The main job of moderators in v/pizzagate is specifically to be the designated asshole who takes the heat for keeping the subverse on topic so users don't have to. It's why the subscriber base has voted repeatedly for both moderators and Rule 1. Your behavior is a perfect example of why they want it this way. People want to focus on research, not deal with constant attacks and smear campaigns. For nearly three years I've done my best to carry out this task in the manner the subscribers desired.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Not according to your fellow Moderator @heygeorge and Moderator @Crensch a year ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/3433526/20662816

We’ve fallen so far.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1541871/7748288

please familiarize yourself with these moderator rules. The guys that were banned for "spam" were trolling a bit, but no actual spam was posted. Mods are not gods here, we have janitorial functions, and that's all.

Mods are not gods here, we have janitorial functions, and that's all.

For nearly three years I've done my best to carry out this task in the manner the subscribers desired

fucking check yourself dude. Look at the downvoats on your NEW RULE. You're power tripping.

Crensch ago

That looks like exactly the number of downvotes as the number of sbbh trolls that are supporting you.

Also, heyGeorge was never a mod.

You don't seem to understand much of anything about this website with a claim like that.

NOMOCHOMO ago

looks like

accusations and assumptions...unless you have access to user info which would prove your claim?

Also, heyGeorge was never a mod.

heygeorge is still a mod

https://voat.co/v/whatever/3436140/20661708

You're a sad, despotic liar Crensch.

but idgaf if you Unban me and follow the rules.

Crensch ago

accusations and assumptions...unless you have access to user info which would prove your claim?

Count the number of faggots not from pizzagate that have stood up for you.

Looks about right.

NOMOCHOMO ago

"Looks"

are deceiving

Crensch ago

@heygeorge is still a mod

Look at the letter next to his name you absolute fucking idiot

heygeorge ago

Look at the letter next to his name you absolute fucking idiot

I lel’d

Crensch ago

He's still at it. Doesn't know what [S] is, either.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Then why is he listed under Moderators?

Crensch ago

What is his function?

NOMOCHOMO ago

Thanks for asking...Idk. it's very confusing....considering he's listed as a Mod.

There is no Mod page that explains these roles. Like there is for "Rules"

It's probably more confusing even than conflicting flairs.

As I understand it, he has been granted mod priveliges, he just chooses to only work on CSS.

but he expects you to ban him because he's already been banned from greatawakening

NOMOCHOMO ago

found the explanation: it ought to be linked in sidebar

https://voat.co/v/announcements/1322376

according to @puttitout

He's a designer..... A class of Moderator and a valid person to tag for input.

Crensch ago

He designs shit.

There is also a submitter designation that would go in that list. Are they mods?

Retard.

NOMOCHOMO ago

There is also a submitter designation that would go in that list

https://voat.co/v/announcements/1322376

Roles

L1 / OwnerJPG: Unrestricted access.

L2 / ModeratorPNG: Nearly unrestricted access. Can't add new Owners, can't Anon a sub, can't remove other L2 mods.

L3 / JanitorJPG: Able to remove posts / comments, flair posts, ban users and distinguish content only.

L4 / DesignerJPG: Able to access stylesheet and modify flairs only.

"would go"? you're making up shit.

Crensch ago

You dumbfuck.

https://voat.co/v/shitlist

What is that?

What is that S?

Explain to me what that S is next to his name, you absolute fucking idiot.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Your user preferences are set to hide adult content.

not clicking that. please excerpt or explain.

Crensch ago

HAHAHAHA

Change your user preferences, you fucking kike.

The mod list has a user there with [S] next to his name. What is it? He can't mod. He can't remove things. Just like D can't, but somehow D is a mod?

Is S a mod, too?

NOMOCHOMO ago

I guess in that forum. Is it one in v/pizzagate?

no.

Crensch ago

Not the point, but something tells me you know that and you're paid to pretend you don't.

NOMOCHOMO ago

(((allegations)))