https://voat.co/v/whatever/3432945/20638202
Ask me to answer your questions again.
sigh. here goes nothing.
Okay @Crensch @Vindicator @Heygeorge @Erickaliberhall @kingkongwaswrong
why did Crensch ban me? Can I appeal?
NOMOCHOMO Rule Violation in v/pizzagate: 1: Relevance; Description: Causing problems with the removal of things that have not been proven to be pizzagate. Using divisive tactics against the mods. Arguing dishonestly, even after being warned that this was not a joke. Constant pattern of disruptive behavior and supporting users like esoteric Crensch 10.9 hours ago
https://files.catbox.moe/q5grgu.jpg
-Swamp Takedown -> 24 hours Grace Relevancy
I ask for clarification as to why a person Vin calls "swamp" is deemed "irrelevant" by Crazy-Mensch
I thought "swamp" indicated Pizza/Pedos....hence it being a flair in pizzagate...I've also lurked for years as ya'll know....why I was confused as to why "Ed Buck" a name I know I'd read submissions on b4 was getting removed.
TLDR: Why am I banned for "relevance"....for defending a relevant post (edit2: and it's not my post)....
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NOMOCHOMO ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20631827
@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed @darkknight111
https://www.wehoville.com/2019/01/09/ed-buck-recounting-history/
I found the motherlode that clearly ties Ed Buck to Pizzagate back in 2017
https://www.wehoville.com/2019/01/09/ed-buck-recounting-history/
Switching Parties
In 1988 at a Republican Party conference in Oklahoma City, Buck called for changes in the party’s “intolerant” stand on LGBT rights in Oklahoma, which included opposition to state-mandated sex education programs in schools. Unable to make major changes in his political party, Buck soon switched allegiances. In an online post in 2010, he explained his decision. “I didn’t leave the Republican Party, it left me. I can remember Barry Goldwater saying ‘out of the boardroom and out of the bedroom’ when referring to the role of government. That’s the GOP I was a proud member of … My principals have not changed, but to keep true to them, my political party had to change.”
Vindicator ago
Excellent. This is exactly why we flair posts. You are an excellent digger, Nomo. I wish you had just given DK a hand and posted this instead of creating drama.
NOMOCHOMO ago
The only reason I found it is because I was banned....Not because of either of your flairs.
I asked @Crensch a question. He repeatedly evaded with counter questions.
Ego, bruised from the questioning, He then made my membership dependent on proving another users' post.
Crensch's Unprecedented Whim became a user-specific guideline. A Dangerous Despotic Precedent
Repeating a question to a Mod is "baiting" them?
Different Mods hold different users to different standards?
The reason given for my ban is Rule 1: Relevance.
Even though you edited Rule 1 last night (cut/pasting "NSFW" from Rule 5), you didn't change "relevance" to apply to comments. It is a submission standard.
To ban a user for a comment that doesn't fulfill a submission guideline is comment censorship.
Because Relevance does not apply to comments. You changed Rule 5 from "NSFW" to "Comment Abuse" without notifying the pizzagate community.
I am shining a light on Moderation. Any scrutiny is framed as "drama".
Unban me. I broke no rules.
I wont break your Modified Rule 5, but please announce it.
Vindicator ago
Wrong. I already explained this. I screwed up and failed to flair for Rule 1, because I forgot Buck's victims were all adults. Because we removed almost all of the Buck posts previously, @think- who knew I was away from the computer all day, pinged Crensch to change the flair. You keep spinning events to fit the narrative of unfair flairing, and you continue to ignore the fact that Crensch was right, you were wrong to argue with him about darkknight's post breaking Rule 1, and you abused the Comment section for your own egotistical ends.
I didn't edit Rule 1 -- I appended the NSFW rule to it without changing either one in any way so as to keep the number of rules the same. We have never used Rule 5 anyway. It was wasted space.
So you think you should have free rein to shit up other people's submissions with your rants about how bad you think moderation is, when we have an entire subverse for that because the whole community agreed they didn't want that stuff on the main board, because you know you'll get banned if you submit a shitpost to assuage your ego?
Illogical.
You are tearing down the community when you could have built it up -- as you just demonstrated in this submission. You were fully capable of helping DK fix his post, but instead of doing so, you got into a fight. Why did it take a ban to get you to do the right thing? You do realize, this argues in support of banning shitty behavior, right?
I haven't had time to write up an discussion post yet, due to the same real life responsibilities that have kept me away from the board of late. But this has actually been in place for several months under the Sitewide Rules. If you check the banlog, you will see that Putt added the Voat User Agreement to the rule violations list moderators can cite some time ago, and Donkey was banned for comment abuse under that -- at the request of multiple users -- after he impersonated another user to discredit her research. @Crensch could have done the same in your case, though he chose to ban you for undermining the prime submission rule. There is not an option to click more than one rule in the ban interface.
We discussed the matter and agreed there should be a subverse rule that reflected the User Agreement requirement to Respect Other Users, since this has come up now several times recently, and the UA also tells mods "When you receive notice that there is content that violates this user agreement on subverses you moderate, you agree to remove it."
You broke at least two. Crensch was pretty clear about what you need to do to have your posting privileges restored. It's up to you.
We have a subverse full of people who either are survivors or who are family or friends of people subjected to elite child rape. They have been here for years, contributing. It's a dick move to turn their hard work into your off-topic soapbox.
CantDentTheBrent ago
You're not fucking special dude.
You have not accomplished shit besides acquiring an army of retarded facebook boomers.
You and that faggot @Crensch glow like fucking kikes.
@nomochomo
All you need to do is find a fat jewess to send @Crensch some flappy tit pics and you're in.