I was unaware of the multi-(O)wner mods until it happened myself.
For the moment I've got no input on the connection with you guys, and will leave it more or less up to KKWR. Cheers to investigating this shit from whatever places we wind up at.
I didn't know you guys either so I was reluctant to hand over ownership until I could see that you guys meant well. I want this investigation to go well and I had nothing from you guys to suggest I could hand over the sub with no issues. No one stepped in or helped out. I really felt like i was shouldering the burden on my own.
I'm going to make @crensch a redundancy owner (even if he doesn't really take a leading role in moderating) so theres no SPOF. As the other mods get more comfortable/take leading roles I want to make another of them owner as well. @crensch is one of the mods of /v/protectvoat and /v/reportCTR and he's helped a lot in transitioning the sub successfully (I was gonna say smoothly but let's face it we all know it was bumpy as fuck) so I trust him a lot. And the new mods look awesome. That way we should become big and redundant enough that any one person being doxxed or dropping off the radar shouldn't affect us.
Hope that eases your concerns. I will be in the chat soon.
We want to help. If there's anything we can do to help you guys out with the work you're doing, just let us know. I'll be happy to give you guys mod perms depending on the thoughts of @crensch and @kevdude, who I have both come to respect for their really unwavering stances on anti-censorship. Up for a discussion on owner rights too, but I'm still not 100% comfortable on the trust side, given got the sense there were mod issues on reddit but I don't know how much that was due to other mods.
Given the infrastructure of Voat, what, exactly, would need to happen where there wasn't a SPOF?
This, as well. Even if I used my owner perms to purge all the mods and go on a deleting spree, all the info would still be in the deletion logs, and I would get overthrown by /v/protectvoat and the admins.
Plus you're not STORING info here, it's just a place to disseminate information.
edit. though I guess in a way you are storing info too.
kingkongwaswrong ago
yes will continue trying to make connection!!
Please let me know what concerns you have about voat? Why you think it's a ghetto?? I think it's operating quite well now?
Crensch ago
I was unaware of the multi-(O)wner mods until it happened myself.
For the moment I've got no input on the connection with you guys, and will leave it more or less up to KKWR. Cheers to investigating this shit from whatever places we wind up at.
kingkongwaswrong ago
I didn't know you guys either so I was reluctant to hand over ownership until I could see that you guys meant well. I want this investigation to go well and I had nothing from you guys to suggest I could hand over the sub with no issues. No one stepped in or helped out. I really felt like i was shouldering the burden on my own.
I'm going to make @crensch a redundancy owner (even if he doesn't really take a leading role in moderating) so theres no SPOF. As the other mods get more comfortable/take leading roles I want to make another of them owner as well. @crensch is one of the mods of /v/protectvoat and /v/reportCTR and he's helped a lot in transitioning the sub successfully (I was gonna say smoothly but let's face it we all know it was bumpy as fuck) so I trust him a lot. And the new mods look awesome. That way we should become big and redundant enough that any one person being doxxed or dropping off the radar shouldn't affect us.
Hope that eases your concerns. I will be in the chat soon.
We want to help. If there's anything we can do to help you guys out with the work you're doing, just let us know. I'll be happy to give you guys mod perms depending on the thoughts of @crensch and @kevdude, who I have both come to respect for their really unwavering stances on anti-censorship. Up for a discussion on owner rights too, but I'm still not 100% comfortable on the trust side, given got the sense there were mod issues on reddit but I don't know how much that was due to other mods.
This, as well. Even if I used my owner perms to purge all the mods and go on a deleting spree, all the info would still be in the deletion logs, and I would get overthrown by /v/protectvoat and the admins.
Plus you're not STORING info here, it's just a place to disseminate information.
edit. though I guess in a way you are storing info too.
Crensch ago
Given the infrastructure of Voat, what, exactly, would need to happen where there wasn't a SPOF? Like the other place, there is one owner of the sub.
Crensch ago
Likewise, and thanks for your help so far, kevdude.