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Vindicator ago

Hmmm. I think disinfo is being pushed here, though I'm not sure who is driving it. Not saying you are, OTI.

First, the alleged "Antarctica" trip on 7/23/2019 does not look like a real flight path. Note that the reported locations are all in the Caribbean, except for one red dot in Antarctica.

Second, according to this article published shortly before the alleged 7/23/2019 flight, the flight tracker site is sourced by "enthusiasts" who track planes with their own equipment:

Most flights can be tracked in real time by anyone in the world. Epstein, however, has long taken advantage of a little-known federal policy that permits the owners of private jets to conceal their real-time movements from public view. At the same time, most aircraft are programmed to automatically broadcast their unique "tail number," speed, and current location using a system known as automatic dependent surveillance-broadcast, or ADS-B. (This system will become mandatory in 2020.)

Anyone with the appropriate (and relatively inexpensive) equipment can pick up and record ADS-B signals from aircraft passing overhead. Over the last few years, thousands of avionics hobbyists have submitted their data to the website ADSBExchange, resulting in detailed maps that show the paths of otherwise blocked aircraft, including both of Epstein's Gulfstreams. While the site provides the data for free, its owner requests donations from commercial entities that make use of it. INSIDER provided such a donation before publishing this article.

All it would take for someone to make up that flight path is to upload one false report showing him in Antarctica, which is FAR more probable than the an "enthusiast" who happens to be tracking Epstein's blocked plane manually from the ground being in Antarctica to spot his plane.

I can think of two reasons the flight data site has closed viewing of data. One, it doesn't want to be deplatformed for fueling "conspiracy theories" leading to "crazed attacks" like 8chan was, or two, it's a stunt to get people to pay for access to the site.

Either way, I think we're being played, here. I'm going to give this post, and the previous one, the "Possible Disinfo" flair both for the protection of Voat and to remind folks to thoroughly vet all material and keep their critical thinking sharpened.

Thanks for all the great digging. :-)

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago

I agree @Vindicator the ANTARCTICA trip is not likely an actual flight, many people have noted the various impossibilities ie fuel, aircraft size, GPS waypoint discrepancies etc. If my original title was misleading, because it included ANTARCTICA , I understand, but was referencing the story and other theories linked, not my own.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/cql96a/epsteins_plane_still_active_723_flew_to_antarctica/

I am also aware this data , as with any from a crowdfunded source is HEARSAY, as anyone can submit.

That said, I feel like it will deter investigation if labeled DISINFO, which is frankly what I think it needs. ANTARCTICA IS A GLITCH, TROLL or DISINFO. I am not in full support of what any of the data suggests, but I do think its worth digging on his flights, and vetting the info we have.

Did you see the entire ADSB Exchange Flight Data tracking history portion of their site is down indefinitely? : https://flight-data.adsbexchange.com/map?icao=A0547F&date=2019-07-23

They claim it is due to expense, but there are other similar sites which were censored outright.

Insider has used this site as a legitimate source for its own journalism on Epstein as well.

https://amp.insider.com/images/5d3f64f336e03c6da05795da-1536-768.png

https://image.insider.com/5d4da8464afbf903e84983a3?width=2500&format=jpeg&auto=webp

https://www.insider.com/jeffrey-epsteins-jet-spotted-in-middle-east-2019-8

Why I thought this worthy of an UPDATE in the first place: the info is being manipulated, doesn't SCRUBBED or DISINFO indicate something in itself?

Enjoying our first fight no matter the sentence @Vindicator ;)

Vindicator ago

The simple solution is to report the discrepancy and the fact the data source is flawed along with the rest of the information. Then there is no need for a flair. The flair doesn't keep people from reading it, you know. It just lets then know to read more than the headline to find out what is going on.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago

Okay, thats fair. Thought that was understood but I will tighten up my posts and make sure to include more background on source. Thank you all for bearing with me.