WASHINGTON, D.C. — More than 65 presidents of Catholic colleges and universities, as well as the Association of Catholic Colleges and Universities, are urging Department of Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly to clarify the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement policies regarding recipients of Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals (DACA).
The Catholic Church is fully behind the southern immigration push. They want to replace low birthrate, conservative, high educated, white, Catholics with high birth rate, low educated, liberal, Hispanic catholics
Is there any actual evidence Kelly is "Jesuit"? Attending a Jesuit school does not make someone Jesuit, you know. Most people who attend Jesuit schools aren't even Catholic. Especially Jesuit law schools. You would need to see evidence of him being involved in an Ignatian spirituality group, or donating big money to some Jesuit Social Justice operation of some kind to make a claim like that believable.
The Catholic Church is fully behind the southern immigration push. They want to replace low birthrate, conservative, high educated, white, Catholics with high birth rate, low educated, liberal, Hispanic catholics
This is absolutely true -- if by "Catholic Church" you are referring to the scrim of bureaucrats and clerics that ride atop the millions of folks who make up the Church. I have never met a Catholic person who supports open borders. As the mainstream secular and Catholic media lose their ability to whitewash the truth, those folks are going to get very angry.
It will be interesting to see what Kelly does...or doesn't do.
Why wouldn't someone who knows the bloody history and murderous, tyrannical doctrines of the Jesuits and of Rome find alarming that many of the important positions in government, finance, defense and military are headed by Jesuit-alumni and Roman Catholics who by their own religion are devoted to the pope, a foreign monarch? The United States historically was based on anti-Jesuitism and anti-Popery.
These people are coadjutor Jesuits; "Jesuits of the Short Robe," as the French called them.
Notice in this case too that this man, John Kelly has attended the National Defense University which openly displays as its logo the crossed papal keys with the silver temporal power key being replaced with a silver sword; the pope's spiritual and temporal powers also being referred to as his "two swords." National Defense University is one of the Pope's military training institutions. It is also chartered by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and guess who the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is? Fanatical Irish Roman Catholic Jesuit-trained Joseph Dunford; the single highest ranking military person in the country.
Georgetown University has the number one ranked Foreign Service master's program in the world. If you have a master's degree from there, or from their security studies program, there is no way you are not working for them.
Georgetown University has the number one ranked Foreign Service master's program in the world. If you have a master's degree from there, or from their security studies program, there is no way you are not working for them.
The logic of this statement is appallingly bad. Georgetown being the number one program would obviously make anyone interested in a career in foreign service eager to attend the school.
Plus, it takes two years to earn a Master's degree...but between 8 and 17 years to become a Jesuit (the shorter end being a lay "Brother" aka "coadjutor Jesuits")...so, it's barely a start. I found that information here. Is there any actual evidence any of these people have made the vows required for either lay or ordained Jesuit state? (S.J. after their name?)
And how does having a degree from a school mean "you're working for" the school, or the religion of the school's founders? Does that mean if you graduate from Harvard you're now working for the Unitarians, since it was a seminary for them? Or if from Yale you work for the Puritans?
The majority of students at Georgetown are not even Catholic, let alone "Jesuit". Nor are there more than a handful of Jesuits even teaching there, and I don't think any who run it. In fact, it gets criticized frequently because it calls itself Catholic but doesn't really teach much, if any Catholicism.
I agree that the statement is unsupported, to expand upon it is a huge rabbit hole, and the basis of the entire subreddit, of which said poster is the main moderator and poster. His posts are incredibly well sourced and factual with primary citations from Church historians (both Catholic and Protestant)
His main thesis is the Catholic Church is at the top of the conspiracy hierarchy and was the first "secret society/hierarchy" to establish the cells/organizations/movements/subversive agents/fronts to bring down enemies of the church.
And how does having a degree from a school mean "you're working for" the school, or the religion of the school's founders? Does that mean if you graduate from Harvard you're now working for the Unitarians, since it was a seminary for them? Or if from Yale you work for the Puritans?
It doesn't, nor is the average Catholic/Jesuit necessarily involved. However, if you look into the history of Jesuit order, its purpose, its oath, its historical expulsions, its whistleblowers, its messaging, and its overall hyper-importance w/in the political system, a trend emerges. They are a psychologically subversive military wing of the Catholic Church motivated purely by will-to-power.
The majority of students at Georgetown are not even Catholic, let alone "Jesuit". Nor are there more than a handful of Jesuits even teaching there, and I don't think any who run it. In fact, it gets criticized frequently because it calls itself Catholic but doesn't really teach much, if any Catholicism.
I agree, but I also don't consider Catholicism Christianity. Catholicism is a Ritualized Cult off-shoot of Christianity, which has historically watered down/ supplanted the Bible with a living prophet which can change the rules. Catholicism is inherently morally relativist.
Jesuits are just the furthest left, and natural extension of Catholic philosophy. So I think Georgetown is as Catholic as they get.
And this isn't to say there aren't Conservative Christian Catholics who I want to Ally with. I just think their Pope is the Anti-Christ.
While I don't share Veritas' political sympathies, he has been influential in my understanding of the Jesuit order. His subreddit is THE COMPENDIUM for online info about the order.
And I say all of this as a former student of a Jesuit institution. In retrospect, the social programming is obvious, but I was a good little commie-catholic parroting the "Social Justice" memes
I also have first hand seen the good-ol-boy networks protect teachers, vilify accusers, and squash stories of sexual abuse. The mayor of my city attended the same school, his sister is the "secret" legal counsel for the school
We are given special "diplomas" the size of ID cards to put behind out drivers license in case we're pulled over (the police chief/many in the department are graduates, all funerals are held in the on campus chapel)
I blew the whistle, anonymously, to substantiate an accuser. The mainstream network affiliated syndicate assigned a reporter to "investigate" who herself had been educated at a Jesuit University in the same district.
These are just a few personal examples which led me down this path
Regarding the downvotes, it looks to me like there are several goats who know enough about history to realize how retarded this sounds, especially the last line:
Exposing the Society of Jesus (revived Knights Templars) and Vatican, the latter being under control of the former since 1814 at the latest. The Roman Catholic institution is the Biblical Whore of Babylon on seven hills in Rome which reigns over the kings of the Earth (Revelation 17).
Regarding the downvotes, it looks to me like there are several goats who know enough about history to realize how retarded this sounds, especially the last line.
Ad Hominem much? How are his statements "retarded" or historically inaccurate?
His sub has only 5 subscribers, posts average 1-3 comments, yet each has over 12 downvoats? That looks like a coordinated suppression campaign to me.
This community respects the Biblical scriptures.
This isn't "retarded". A big point of contention between Catholics and Protestants centers over which scriptures are canon. The Catholic Bible has 5 additional books, that Protestants don't consider inspired by God.
His sub has only 5 subscribers, posts average 1-3 comments, yet each has over 12 downvoats? That looks like a coordinated suppression campaign to me.
Is it set to private? If not, then everything he posts appears on v/All, which thousands of eyes see.
A big point of contention between Catholics and Protestants centers over which scriptures are canon. The Catholic Bible has 5 additional books that Protestants don't consider inspired by God.
No, that is only a big point of contention for Protestants, because they are ignorant of history. Catholics set the canon of Scripture, both Old and New Testament, by the end of the 4th century. The Catholic Church existed several hundred years before Scripture was gathered together formally. This is historical fact, noted in documents at the time which are still in existence. When I have more time and no houseguests, I will dig up the links for this, if you want. My experience is, though, that people who accept black propaganda uncritically don't really want to see the evidence.
No, that is only a big point of contention for Protestants, because they are ignorant of history. Catholics set the canon of Scripture, both Old and New Testament, by the end of the 4th century
Are you Catholic Vindicator? To say that it's only the Protestants that care about the canon dispute, because they are "ignorant of history" is another ad-hominem and appeal to authority.
Biblical Canon was established in 382 by the Catholic Church. The Protestants rightfully recognized the logical inconsistencies created by the Apocrypha.
Here are some examples. The implications of these theologies allow the Catholic Church to justify it's position and attempts for temporal control. (Specifically the book of Tobit led to the selling of indulgences)
Moreover, Protestants accurately note that none of the apocryphal books are referenced in the New Testament.
Theological/logical inconsistencies w/in the Canon motivated the Protestants to remove 7 books. It had nothing to do with "ignorance" of history. Protestantism was very philosophical/intellectual in it's formation.
My experience is, though, that people who accept black propaganda uncritically don't really want to see the evidence.
I'd be happy to see evidence, no rush if you're entertaining, but to call Protestantism's genuine concerns about catholicism "black propoganda" is pretty bombastic
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Vindicator ago
The people who "ooze compassion" for migrant children are the ones getting them to come here illegally in the first place.
NOMOCHOMO ago
Georgetown educated Jesuit John Kelly
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/RomeRules/comments/5h535f/trumps_pick_for_head_of_homeland_security_no/
https://ignatiansolidarity.net/blog/2017/05/24/protect-immigrant-students/
The Catholic Church is fully behind the southern immigration push. They want to replace low birthrate, conservative, high educated, white, Catholics with high birth rate, low educated, liberal, Hispanic catholics
Vindicator ago
Is there any actual evidence Kelly is "Jesuit"? Attending a Jesuit school does not make someone Jesuit, you know. Most people who attend Jesuit schools aren't even Catholic. Especially Jesuit law schools. You would need to see evidence of him being involved in an Ignatian spirituality group, or donating big money to some Jesuit Social Justice operation of some kind to make a claim like that believable.
This is absolutely true -- if by "Catholic Church" you are referring to the scrim of bureaucrats and clerics that ride atop the millions of folks who make up the Church. I have never met a Catholic person who supports open borders. As the mainstream secular and Catholic media lose their ability to whitewash the truth, those folks are going to get very angry.
It will be interesting to see what Kelly does...or doesn't do.
NOMOCHOMO ago
Relevant Comment from the first post:
Vindicator ago
The logic of this statement is appallingly bad. Georgetown being the number one program would obviously make anyone interested in a career in foreign service eager to attend the school.
Plus, it takes two years to earn a Master's degree...but between 8 and 17 years to become a Jesuit (the shorter end being a lay "Brother" aka "coadjutor Jesuits")...so, it's barely a start. I found that information here. Is there any actual evidence any of these people have made the vows required for either lay or ordained Jesuit state? (S.J. after their name?)
And how does having a degree from a school mean "you're working for" the school, or the religion of the school's founders? Does that mean if you graduate from Harvard you're now working for the Unitarians, since it was a seminary for them? Or if from Yale you work for the Puritans?
The majority of students at Georgetown are not even Catholic, let alone "Jesuit". Nor are there more than a handful of Jesuits even teaching there, and I don't think any who run it. In fact, it gets criticized frequently because it calls itself Catholic but doesn't really teach much, if any Catholicism.
NOMOCHOMO ago
I agree that the statement is unsupported, to expand upon it is a huge rabbit hole, and the basis of the entire subreddit, of which said poster is the main moderator and poster. His posts are incredibly well sourced and factual with primary citations from Church historians (both Catholic and Protestant)
His main thesis is the Catholic Church is at the top of the conspiracy hierarchy and was the first "secret society/hierarchy" to establish the cells/organizations/movements/subversive agents/fronts to bring down enemies of the church.
It doesn't, nor is the average Catholic/Jesuit necessarily involved. However, if you look into the history of Jesuit order, its purpose, its oath, its historical expulsions, its whistleblowers, its messaging, and its overall hyper-importance w/in the political system, a trend emerges. They are a psychologically subversive military wing of the Catholic Church motivated purely by will-to-power.
I agree, but I also don't consider Catholicism Christianity. Catholicism is a Ritualized Cult off-shoot of Christianity, which has historically watered down/ supplanted the Bible with a living prophet which can change the rules. Catholicism is inherently morally relativist.
Jesuits are just the furthest left, and natural extension of Catholic philosophy. So I think Georgetown is as Catholic as they get.
And this isn't to say there aren't Conservative Christian Catholics who I want to Ally with. I just think their Pope is the Anti-Christ.
NOMOCHOMO ago
@vindicator see parent
NOMOCHOMO ago
https://voat.co/u/Veritas__Aequitas
He's a voater!
@Veritas__Aequitas , did I summarize your thesis accurately?
While I don't share Veritas' political sympathies, he has been influential in my understanding of the Jesuit order. His subreddit is THE COMPENDIUM for online info about the order.
And I say all of this as a former student of a Jesuit institution. In retrospect, the social programming is obvious, but I was a good little commie-catholic parroting the "Social Justice" memes
I also have first hand seen the good-ol-boy networks protect teachers, vilify accusers, and squash stories of sexual abuse. The mayor of my city attended the same school, his sister is the "secret" legal counsel for the school We are given special "diplomas" the size of ID cards to put behind out drivers license in case we're pulled over (the police chief/many in the department are graduates, all funerals are held in the on campus chapel)
I blew the whistle, anonymously, to substantiate an accuser. The mainstream network affiliated syndicate assigned a reporter to "investigate" who herself had been educated at a Jesuit University in the same district.
These are just a few personal examples which led me down this path
NOMOCHOMO ago
@vindicator
Vindicator ago
Thanks for linking me to that subverse.
Regarding the downvotes, it looks to me like there are several goats who know enough about history to realize how retarded this sounds, especially the last line:
NOMOCHOMO ago
Ad Hominem much? How are his statements "retarded" or historically inaccurate?
His sub has only 5 subscribers, posts average 1-3 comments, yet each has over 12 downvoats? That looks like a coordinated suppression campaign to me.
This isn't "retarded". A big point of contention between Catholics and Protestants centers over which scriptures are canon. The Catholic Bible has 5 additional books, that Protestants don't consider inspired by God.
Vindicator ago
Is it set to private? If not, then everything he posts appears on v/All, which thousands of eyes see.
No, that is only a big point of contention for Protestants, because they are ignorant of history. Catholics set the canon of Scripture, both Old and New Testament, by the end of the 4th century. The Catholic Church existed several hundred years before Scripture was gathered together formally. This is historical fact, noted in documents at the time which are still in existence. When I have more time and no houseguests, I will dig up the links for this, if you want. My experience is, though, that people who accept black propaganda uncritically don't really want to see the evidence.
NOMOCHOMO ago
Are you Catholic Vindicator? To say that it's only the Protestants that care about the canon dispute, because they are "ignorant of history" is another ad-hominem and appeal to authority.
Biblical Canon was established in 382 by the Catholic Church. The Protestants rightfully recognized the logical inconsistencies created by the Apocrypha.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_395.cfm
Here are some examples. The implications of these theologies allow the Catholic Church to justify it's position and attempts for temporal control. (Specifically the book of Tobit led to the selling of indulgences)
Moreover, Protestants accurately note that none of the apocryphal books are referenced in the New Testament.
Theological/logical inconsistencies w/in the Canon motivated the Protestants to remove 7 books. It had nothing to do with "ignorance" of history. Protestantism was very philosophical/intellectual in it's formation.
I'd be happy to see evidence, no rush if you're entertaining, but to call Protestantism's genuine concerns about catholicism "black propoganda" is pretty bombastic
NOMOCHOMO ago
@Veritas__Aequitas
This discussion should be right up your alley