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think- ago

At the opening mass of the Synod on Youth in 2018, Pope Francis carried a staff in the form of a ‘stang’, an object used in satanic rituals.

That's amazing that they address it so openly!

and his failure to speak out against child sacrifice

You might want to clarify that you mean abortions, otherwise many people won't get what you mean, @Vindicator.

I'm pro-choice in the first weeks of pregnancy, and to me it doesn't equal 'child sacrifice'.

Vindicator ago

That's amazing that they address it so openly!

Not really. There is no one more pissed off about Church corruption than orthodox Catholics who are well-formed in Scripture, and the writings of the Saints and Doctors of the Church. This was the third formal condemnation of the Pope. Canonically, three are required before bishops can take the action they are requesting. This "Pope" is going down, along with the evil deviants who put him in power. Their crimes have created the means to pry them out of power.

think- ago

How many bishops and cardinals will it take to bring him down - what if he refuses to step down, since he has the backing of other bishops and cardinals.

Vindicator ago

It will only take a few exposing the crimes of these men the way this letter does to turn the Faithful against them. Once it's clear Francis is unrepentant, this will become inevitable. The mainstream secular and Catholic media have been attacking those who have attempted to do so prior to now, but their attempts to control the narrative will fail, thanks to places like Church Militant, and social media.

think- ago

Yes - but what do you think will happen - could this bring a schisma of the Church, since a considerable number of bishops and cardinals will back Francis.

Vindicator ago

Depends what you mean by schism. There is already a schism between faithful Catholics and those teaching heresy...that's what heresy is. Any bishop or cardinal who upholds heresy automatically severs himself from the Church. What the theologians are requesting is formal acknowledgement of a fact that already exists, as demonstrated by the twenty pages of evidence they have cited in the letter.

think- ago

I meant a formal schisma. Otherwise the Pope and those who are loyal to him could just carry on as usual, no?

Vindicator ago

From what I've been reading today, it appears that historically, major times of heresy result in the convening of an ecumenical council, which includes lay experts as well as clergy, and can speak with the full authority of the Church to declare his teachings anathema. That is probably what would happen. During the Third and Fourth centuries (after the Church became the official religion of the Roman Empire), the politically popular Arian heresy infected almost the entire worldwide Church. The majority of bishops spread its false teachings and those who stood up against it were persecuted by both secular and religious authorities. But, because Trinitarian doctrine was sound and in accord with both Scripture and the traditional teachings of the Church, those who stood fast eventually prevailed.

think- ago

From what I've been reading today, it appears that historically, major times of heresy result in the convening of an ecumenical council, which includes lay experts as well as clergy, and can speak with the full authority of the Church to declare his teachings anathema. That is probably what would happen.

Interesting.