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think- ago

This restriction does not mean that a pope cannot be guilty of heresy, since popes can and do make many public statements that are not infallible; many popes indeed never issue an infallible definition.

On a side note , the guy who wrote the dogma regarding the infallibility of the Pope in the 19th century wa-s involved in the sexual abuse of young nuns - they were abused by older nuns, and he participated in the abuse.

Vindicator ago

the guy who wrote the dogma

This is a complete misunderstanding of dogma, asserted by the heresy of Modernism. Dogma is not "written" by one person.

think- ago

what I meant is 'the guy who wrote the text that formally defined the infabillity' in 1870.

Vindicator ago

By "the text that formally defined infallibility in 1870" I assume you mean Pastor Aeturnus. One guy did not write that, however. It was produced by the First Vatican Council, the twentieth official gathering of all the bishops of the Church.

Infallibility was part of Church doctrine long before 1870. It stems directly from multiple Scriptures, but was discussed by Christian writers from the First Century, on -- even before the canon of Scripture was agreed upon by the bishops in councils of the late Fourth Century (Pope Athanasius was the first to cite all 27 New Testament books we recognize today in a single document in 327. Discernment of the canon of Scripture in fact depended upon what later became known as the doctrine of infallibility.)

Wikipedia has a pretty good summary of the history:

On the basis of Mark 3:16, 9:2, Luke 24:34 and 1 Corinthians 15:5, the Catechism of the Catholic Church describes Peter as holding first place among the apostles. It speaks of Peter as the rock on which, because of Peter's faith, Christ said in Matthew 16:18 he would build his Church, which he declared would be victorious over the powers of death. In Luke 22:32, Jesus gave Peter the mission to keep his faith after every lapse and to strengthen his brothers in it. The Catechism of the Catholic Church sees the power of the keys that Jesus promised to Peter alone in Matthew 16:19 as signifying authority to govern the house of God, that is, the Church, an authority that Jesus after his resurrection confirmed for Peter by instructing him in John 21:15–17 to feed Christ's sheep.

(Note that the Catechism doesn't establish any dogma or doctrine -- it merely collects it all in one place, like an encyclopedia, explains where each teaching comes from, why, and how it connects to the "seamless garment" of the whole.)

Think-, which guy from Vatican I are you referring to? According to this review of the book, the predator in that convent was a woman.

think- ago

Thanks for the info. I will try to find the name in other book reviews. Yes, the predators were women, but the priest I have been thinking of participated (they forced young nuns to have sex with the main female predator and him).