Perhaps this is the reason for AnOpenSecret's recent stance on things (pizzagate)

submitted ago by SandHog

I saw this tweet that referenced a new project he has been promoting. Seems he has recently produced a documentary called Hoaxed in conjunction with Mike Cernovich that attempts to tackle Fake News.

Kinda seems like he is setting himself up to be the Snopes of child sexual abuse in a way. Thoughts?

21yearsofdigging ago

Sadly, I am really upset that so many supposed 'Truthers' on youtube have indeed, in my opinion, been co opted or perhaps always were. I and others had tried for much of the past year to get popular truth youtubers to cover my film, even just watch it. The film, as others have now reported, has been buried on search engines and NOT ONE big youtube channel has reviewed it or covered it with the exception of Jim and Angie at Victurus Libertas. The film deals with ritual abuse and cult targeting. It is called The Spark. Thankfully one journalist out in Los Angeles did do a review. It can be seen here....https://medium.com/@thomas.mcfarlan/the-spark-art-film-debuts-online-stephen-shellens-tour-de-force-on-post-9-11-surveillance-4a13709ae11d

I have lost faith in this 'truth' movement, especially with the popular youtube channels

SandHog ago

I agree. There is a lot that's rotten on youtube. I do think some people have been co-opted and others were probably bullied off of the subject. Then you have the whole opportunist crowd that doesn't care about anything other than attracting eyeballs by any means possible so they just spend their time trying to attack and discredit anyone and everything. It's a big steaming pile of poop anymore.

Thanks for the link! I will definitely check it out.

new4now ago

Be careful who you follow

interesting news

sooner or later the scale will tip to whom has been smeared

Soulbrotha2 ago

Mike Cernovich is a straight up goofball. Any of these takes need to be examined as if in a personal social setting. Meaning, if I hung out with him on a personal basis more than five minutes he would get on my nerves. He has very little social skills and probably pisses women off in a quick way. The fact that he has a platform is amazing in itself

LightlyToasted ago

Cernovich Dershowitz Epstein Enough said.

Piscina ago

Yes, Cernovich and Dershowitz are very close. Dershowitz is a plagiariser, a rapist and is a big leader in the Zionist movement. Dershowitz is known for his dirty tactics when defending criminals and going after victims.

SandHog ago

He did have ties to Dershowitz didn't he? I vaguely remember something about that.

LightlyToasted ago

Yep, to unmask victims in the Epstein lawsuit. Shady.

think- ago

Thanks for posting, @SandHog! Great research! Never trusted Cernovich. Didn't he recently say we should introduce a 'moderate form of Islam'?

@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @MolochHunter @darkknight111 @ASolo

SandHog ago

Oh, wow. I didn't know that. I stopped paying attention to him a long time ago when I saw him say he was a leading force for the alt-right one day and then damn near the next he was disavowing everything about it. That's when I knew he was just another slimy opportunist who didn't believe in anything other than lining his own pockets.

Nice principles ya got there, Cerno. Shapeshifting scumbag.

NinaSparrow ago

OMG No flipping way!!!? Cernovich said that??? 😳🤯🙏🏼

NinaSparrow ago

Wow hes out of his damn mind. - Thanks for the link ;)

think- ago

Welcome, Nina. :-)

Kahlypso79 ago

Lots of people trynig to step up and become an 'authority' on matters now that MSM is dead. Especially in areas what were once considered 'alt-research'...be careful of their intentions.

Cleareyes ago

Yeah i couldn't care less who states what about pizzagate. There is no public opinion that matters to me if i know i'm on the path to truth, i witnessed the censorship real-time, i saw the moves the accused made in the wake of the information coming out, i saw their art and social circles, social media comments, their public statements afterwards, the wikileaks emails, etc etc... shady and creepy. It was clear to me then and it is to me now. Some of the "events" surrounding it may be disinfo, but the demand for investigations against their circle of friends is valid, and if dirty police didn't investigate then we want some proof coming out in another manner, because we know what they are.

Blacksmith21 ago

Excellent perspective.

Cleareyes ago

hiy hiy

Kahlypso79 ago

trust yourself. you know what you saw :) I still cant believe everything came crashing down because of one phishing attack.. unbelievable..

SandHog ago

You get it.

Kahlypso79 ago

Be particulary careful of memes based on 'we've got to "own" the culture'.. as if it has to be saved from something. That way leads to censureship and directing narratives.

SandHog ago

That's spot on. Culture will always self-correct itself in a censor-free environment. Ideas will stand or fall based on their merit. Sadly there are very few censor-free environments left to us. Which says a lot about those who host the debate.

Madwack ago

You are blocked from following @AnOpenSecret and viewing @AnOpenSecret's Tweets. Learn more

Welp!

Piscina ago

lol, I was blocked by them long ago. Gabe Hoffman is a moron.

lovely1 ago

Me too

kazza64 ago

ditto ..... i can still see an open secrets posts on facebook and youtube or you just create another twitter account

SandHog ago

I don't even have twitter. I just bookmark people of interest and check up on them that way. They can't block you that way.

SandHog ago

Lol did you tweet something at him or did the prick just auto-block you?

Madwack ago

maybe...he said pizzagate was fake and I said something....errrrr lol

SandHog ago

Yeah, he has been banning anyone that questions about pizzagate or Q or voodoo doughnuts. I think he also runs a bot that blocks people based on certain people they follow.

think- ago

I think he also runs a bot that blocks people based on certain people they follow.

That was my impression as well. Would explain why Pizzagaters who didn't even reply to his tweets got blocked.

@MolochHunter @kazza64

kazza64 ago

yep .... makes sense

new4now ago

I remember a poster here, that would announce a block on someone for criticising the post lol

if the poster didnt like what you said, you were blocked lol

dont see the name anymore, but remember the styles of the posts

think- ago

That was @migratorypatterns. She doesn't post her anymore. I think she must have blocked about half of all users here, lol.

new4now ago

I remember

derram ago

https://archive.ph/sAUlU :

An Open Secret on Twitter: "Same thing happened with the term “An Open Secret”. Iconic films have that effect on society’s language. “Hoaxed” is clearly next.… t.co/gOxkYWrwhR"

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