I know she is telling the truth. Those of us that have worked on this board fighting for the Victims/Survivors know how hard evil forces wish to discredit her and others. We will continue the fight until one day the tables will be turned.
Oh I disagree. When dealing with victims of ritual abuse and programming we are also dealing with alters and sometimes those alters are not all integrated. So yes, memories can be messed with and many of us have no idea how difficult it is to have alters and try to understand ALL of it. In Fiona's case I think there are some alters in her that maybe are not integrated. That doesn't dismiss what she is saying. Hard to deal with and understand as I was married to someone with D.I.D. and alters. She didn't have the courage of Fiona however. Said as much to me in a letter
Tavistock and the intelligence services are into hypnotism and any other techniques that can cloud a person's memory. Useful for interfering with victims' memory recall (we might have seen that in the Hampstead case) and useful for programming operatives and other useful idiots.
I have to be careful how I word this so there is no room for misinterpretation. The Hampstead case is complex. Ella Draper had been attending the Tavistock Clinic with one (or both, I forget which) of her children. There is scope for manipulation there... I can only speculate. As you know I keep an open mind about ALL of the adults in this case.
The stories the children gave were harrowing, combined with some puzzling details ... as someone who has had professional training of dealing with children I am absolutely convinced that they believed what they were saying. I was also told once by someone close to the case, that it is a genuine case of abuse mixed with disinformation. Somehow, that explanation had a ring of truth for me and fits with the way spooks work. However, the official narrative of pointing a finger at the mother and her partner was part of the disinformation campaign as far as I am concerned. The focus for me was always the shadowy banker who has very high level connections and all the other bits and pieces that I post about that certain groups tried to brush under the carpet.
One example, is an odd titbit that came from the case where in the 'retraction' (ahem) video, the children said that they came up with the false story by watching 2 days of the Zorro movie video. Say what???? It's discussed here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1710712/8373656 . Well, we know in psyops how these people signal to each other, right? Who has a Zorro ranch in Santa Fe? And I also found a hypnotist (of whom Cherie Blair is a fan) who works with Ricky Dearman's agent Peter Ferris (that was a whole other story) who is also a Hollywood movie who worked on one of the Zorro movies. I've posted on that here but people haven't really picked it up.
Do I think that the children were harmed? Most definitely. Do I think that the spooks and Tavistock stepped in to confuse the facts of the case for a coverup? Most definitely. Do I think that other governments were involved, and that the online coverup was being studied by cyberpsychologists of nudge unites to prepare the ground for the US version of pizzagate? Most defintely. Are they going to get away with this? Most definitely not.
After Alisa came back from Russia, James has already begun the counseling seesions in the Tavistock Centre after witnessing the violence towards me and been hit my Mr Dearman. Soon after I started to take both Alisa and Gabriel to see the psychologist Charlotte Burck too. On one of the occasions she has invited Mr Dearman. He was rude, started an argument with Dr Burck and slammed the door on her...
I was constantly seeking the answers to the situation, asked the school twice for the referral to the Tavistock Center (after we have attended previously), had a private consultation with the child psychologist, signed up and attended six weeks course on positive parenting and prepaid and was going to attend another advanced course on the siblings parenting (this supposed to start on 9 September 2014 but I never went because of the children disclosure, reporting to the police, children have been retained, courts, etc).
Well, the Hoaxtead website is not going to give you the full picture. THEIR mantra is Ella is a crazy woman with an even crazier boyfriend who was trying to smear her ex-partner and everyone else in a dirty custody battle.
In the second paragraph I gave you SHE SAYS she did not attend later appointments ..
I was constantly seeking the answers to the situation, asked the school twice for the referral to the Tavistock Center (after we have attended previously), had a private consultation with the child psychologist, signed up and attended six weeks course on positive parenting and prepaid and was going to attend another advanced course on the siblings parenting (this supposed to start on 9 September 2014 but I never went because of the children disclosure, reporting to the police, children have been retained, courts, etc).
As far as I remember she initially went to Tavistock because the behaviour of the children was so puzzling and out of the norm.
Thanks for your reply. How do you think the children were influenced? What elements of their testimony do you think was legit, and which parts weren't?
I thought I'd expanded on that somewhere but I can't find it now.
Deciphering what elements are legit is difficult .. Remember verification is important. Just think though, that when young children are abused they are usually drugged.. making them susceptible to sophisticated mind control. Just remember the images of the needle marks in the skulls under the hairlines of the Chinese kindergarden which was subsequently closed down when the parents caught on to what was happening to them. It would make sense for the children to be given some misinformation as a safety valve in case any abuse was found out.
The doctor's report verified the scarring on the girl. Many of the people the children mentioned have dodgy connections including that school trustee that has that moving company.. you've seen the posts. I don't want to go more specifically into what I think was not 100% correct here but I continue to pursue the leads on that case to shine a light on how vile elements of the deep state are.
Ricky Dearman is no innocent. He sometimes goes online to monitor forums like this one and anyone else who speaks out about Hampstead using one of his several alt accounts to harrass. He's identifiable because he's narcissitic and dyslexia. That combination makes him one of the weak links in the whole case. When he raised his head with the latest ebay fiasco he left behind a few more breadcrumbs unintentionally .. I'll go about quietly pursuing those ;-)
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carmencita ago
This is the last time I respond to this shit. Anyone who attacks me has a vested interest in covering up ritual abuse and child sex trafficking.
I agree.
ASolo ago
Get em C! Nice shot into the bow Fionna. We know you're never going to back down keep fucking fighting.
carmencita ago
I know she is telling the truth. Those of us that have worked on this board fighting for the Victims/Survivors know how hard evil forces wish to discredit her and others. We will continue the fight until one day the tables will be turned.
MolochHunter ago
how about we approach this with a little more sophistication. You've been here long enough to gain it , one would expect
is not the same as
21yearsofdigging ago
Oh I disagree. When dealing with victims of ritual abuse and programming we are also dealing with alters and sometimes those alters are not all integrated. So yes, memories can be messed with and many of us have no idea how difficult it is to have alters and try to understand ALL of it. In Fiona's case I think there are some alters in her that maybe are not integrated. That doesn't dismiss what she is saying. Hard to deal with and understand as I was married to someone with D.I.D. and alters. She didn't have the courage of Fiona however. Said as much to me in a letter
MolochHunter ago
Well that sort of proves my point. Due to d. I. D. Fiona may not even be aware when SHE is lying
letsdothis3 ago
Tavistock and the intelligence services are into hypnotism and any other techniques that can cloud a person's memory. Useful for interfering with victims' memory recall (we might have seen that in the Hampstead case) and useful for programming operatives and other useful idiots.
think- ago
Do you think they tempered with the victims' memory before they did the first video?
letsdothis3 ago
I have to be careful how I word this so there is no room for misinterpretation. The Hampstead case is complex. Ella Draper had been attending the Tavistock Clinic with one (or both, I forget which) of her children. There is scope for manipulation there... I can only speculate. As you know I keep an open mind about ALL of the adults in this case.
The stories the children gave were harrowing, combined with some puzzling details ... as someone who has had professional training of dealing with children I am absolutely convinced that they believed what they were saying. I was also told once by someone close to the case, that it is a genuine case of abuse mixed with disinformation. Somehow, that explanation had a ring of truth for me and fits with the way spooks work. However, the official narrative of pointing a finger at the mother and her partner was part of the disinformation campaign as far as I am concerned. The focus for me was always the shadowy banker who has very high level connections and all the other bits and pieces that I post about that certain groups tried to brush under the carpet.
One example, is an odd titbit that came from the case where in the 'retraction' (ahem) video, the children said that they came up with the false story by watching 2 days of the Zorro movie video. Say what???? It's discussed here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1710712/8373656 . Well, we know in psyops how these people signal to each other, right? Who has a Zorro ranch in Santa Fe? And I also found a hypnotist (of whom Cherie Blair is a fan) who works with Ricky Dearman's agent Peter Ferris (that was a whole other story) who is also a Hollywood movie who worked on one of the Zorro movies. I've posted on that here but people haven't really picked it up.
Do I think that the children were harmed? Most definitely. Do I think that the spooks and Tavistock stepped in to confuse the facts of the case for a coverup? Most definitely. Do I think that other governments were involved, and that the online coverup was being studied by cyberpsychologists of nudge unites to prepare the ground for the US version of pizzagate? Most defintely. Are they going to get away with this? Most definitely not.
TruthIsMyReligion ago
"Ella Draper had been attending the Tavistock Clinic"
Do you have a source for this?
letsdothis3 ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2335585
http://archive.is/gDN6e
TruthIsMyReligion ago
Thanks. According to the below link the CRIS report contradicts this which is confusing.
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2018/01/04/cris-report-highlights-troofer-lies-about-ella-draper/
letsdothis3 ago
Well, the Hoaxtead website is not going to give you the full picture. THEIR mantra is Ella is a crazy woman with an even crazier boyfriend who was trying to smear her ex-partner and everyone else in a dirty custody battle.
In the second paragraph I gave you SHE SAYS she did not attend later appointments ..
As far as I remember she initially went to Tavistock because the behaviour of the children was so puzzling and out of the norm.
http://angirfana.blogspot.com/2015/04/ella-draper-chronology-of-events.html
Chronology of events:
http://angirfana.blogspot.com/2015/04/ella-draper-chronology-of-events.html
https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1062479730&postcount=16803
think- ago
Thanks for your reply. How do you think the children were influenced? What elements of their testimony do you think was legit, and which parts weren't?
letsdothis3 ago
The hypnotist is mentioned here : https://voat.co/v/pizzagateacademics/2151018 :
I thought I'd expanded on that somewhere but I can't find it now.
Deciphering what elements are legit is difficult .. Remember verification is important. Just think though, that when young children are abused they are usually drugged.. making them susceptible to sophisticated mind control. Just remember the images of the needle marks in the skulls under the hairlines of the Chinese kindergarden which was subsequently closed down when the parents caught on to what was happening to them. It would make sense for the children to be given some misinformation as a safety valve in case any abuse was found out.
The doctor's report verified the scarring on the girl. Many of the people the children mentioned have dodgy connections including that school trustee that has that moving company.. you've seen the posts. I don't want to go more specifically into what I think was not 100% correct here but I continue to pursue the leads on that case to shine a light on how vile elements of the deep state are.
Ricky Dearman is no innocent. He sometimes goes online to monitor forums like this one and anyone else who speaks out about Hampstead using one of his several alt accounts to harrass. He's identifiable because he's narcissitic and dyslexia. That combination makes him one of the weak links in the whole case. When he raised his head with the latest ebay fiasco he left behind a few more breadcrumbs unintentionally .. I'll go about quietly pursuing those ;-)
think- ago
;-)