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Piscina ago

Just so that people know what Fiona is responding to: : https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3016570

Vindicator ago

Fiona was definitely the aggressor. Here is her October attack on a whole group of people trying to help kids: https://fionabarnett.org/2018/10/06/deep-state-shills-dropping-like-flies/.

kingzos ago

Fiona keeps being proven right, with evidence. Her detractors can only make ad hominem attacks, since they have no evidence to support their own claims.

Here is her post proving that Craig Sawyer was pulling money from both his charity and the production company through kickbacks. Note the V4CR public financial statement (IRS Form 990 for 2017) confirms the payments coming out of the charity, disguised as "security consulting" https://fionabarnett.org/2018/12/12/shocking-evidence-craig-sawyer-defrauded-v4cr-of-11k-per-month

Follow V4CR insider Lorelei Hoyt, the private investigator who ACTUALLY did the sting operations for Sawyer. She also posts evidence. The Sawyers have never addressed any of these claims. https://twitter.com/loreleihoyt/status/1079111136254009344

Why does Craig Sawyer say he has maintained a TOP SECRET clearance and is running covert Tier One operations? Why haven't they arrested a single sex trafficker, or released any documentary footage? Jenny Moore was found dead 3 days after calling him out on Twitter https://www.bitchute.com/video/7MEYS5UW3IgZ/

No kids rescued. No child traffickers arrested. No documentary. $100,000 from Alex Jones and at least half a million from the public. Evidence that money is being syphoned (embezzled?) from both the charity and the film production company. Why are people on this forum not concerned by that, but deeply concerned that the Barnett family owned a house with a piano in it?

Vindicator ago

No one asking questions on this board is making ad hominem attacks. Please show me where that is happening.

The Barnett post you cite about Sawyer was impossible to vet because all she included for evidence was thumbnails too small and too low resolution to examine. The entire second paragraph was completely deceptive:

Well, I finally obtained the irrefutable evidence of Sawyer’s fraudulent and highly lucrative child advocacy business. Multiple former V4CR staff have blown the whistle on Sawyer’s crimes. And I mean crimes. Sawyer is only licensed to gather donations to his not-for-profit in 5 USA states. Yet he collects moneys from multiple states in which he is unregistered, and in which he is legally mandated to register. His latest target was Idaho.

This looks like a smear to me.

I don't know whether Sawyer is good or bad, but I do know a little bit about taxes. V4CR is (PDF) a registered 501c3, that has filed Form 990 and disclosed it's funds. Barnett appears to be claiming this is fake -- despite the fact 4VCR is subject to IRS review and is in good standing with the IRS.

Barnett is implying he is illegally collecting contributions, despite the fact that V4CR warns potential donors right on their site they are not yet registered in every state.

According to this article, not all states require it AND it is an extremely labor intensive and time consuming process for those who do.

Charitable nonprofits frequently think they need to register to solicit donations in all 50 states. Fortunately, not all states require this. The number of states that do require charitable solicitation registration varies in some circumstances (e.g., depending on the type of organization)...Currently, 37 states and D.C. broadly require charitable solicitation registration and renewal, unless a specific exemption applies.

There are 9 states that do not require charitable registration: Delaware, Iowa, Idaho, Indiana, Montana, Nebraska, South Dakota, Vermont & Wyoming. Texas has limited registration requirements that are only applicable to law enforcement, public safety and veterans organizations. Arizona requires charitable veterans organizations to register if they are soliciting money or other support in the state. Finally, Louisiana only requires registration if a charity engages paid, professional solicitors to fundraise in their state, while Missouri exempts 501c3, 501c7 and 501c8 organizations, upon application.

The charity is quite new and only collected $552,004 last year. Seems a bit unfair to expect them to have been able to complete that exhaustive process already, let alone claim this is "irrefutable evidence of Sawyer’s fraudulent and highly lucrative" "crimes".

That is not an honest assessment based on evidence. This should raise major red flags for anyone genuinely interested in the truth about all these characters.

More info on charities: https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/charitable-solicitation-state-requirements

Note the V4CR public financial statement (IRS Form 990 for 2017) confirms the payments coming out of the charity, disguised as "security consulting"

"Disguised"? Doesn't V4CR set up pedo stings and then go in with local law enforcement and highly trained veteran volunteers to apprehend the perpetrators and rescue the kids? Are you actually telling me to you think that can happen for free?

Follow V4CR insider Lorelei Hoyt, the private investigator who ACTUALLY did the sting operations for Sawyer. She also posts evidence. The Sawyers have never addressed any of these claims. https://twitter.com/loreleihoyt/status/1079111136254009344

I've never heard of this person, so if you want to bring this in, you should explain who she is, what her history is, and support whatever claims she is making with evidence. The tweet you linked only says he wasn't present at one of the V4CR operations, but my understanding is the guy is the head of the organization and has used his various connections and reputation to bring law enforcement, volunteer specialists and others together to run pedo stings. That kind of CEO-type activity generally precludes being a hands on part of every single activity an organization is involved in. Pretty weak sauce to accuse the guy of fraud.

Why does Craig Sawyer say he has maintained a TOP SECRET clearance and is running covert Tier One operations?

Maybe he is? Why is this a problem? He's a decorated veteran of this country's most elite tactical warfare unit. Is there any evidence he served in any dishonorable way?

Why haven't they arrested a single sex trafficker, or released any documentary footage?

They have:

new4now [S] 2 points (+2|-0) 23 hours ago

I have confirmation of a Sawyer, Veterans for Child Recuse, helped with a pedo bust in Utah: Operation Blue M&M

https://www.exposingsatanism.org/7-arrests-in-veterans-for-child-rescue-joint-ngo-leo-pedophile-sting/

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/02/22/army-recruiter-among-7-arrested-in-sting-operation-to-fight-child-sex-crimes/

Jenny Moore was found dead 3 days after calling him out on Twitter https://www.bitchute.com/video/7MEYS5UW3IgZ/

So now you're trying to imply that Sawyer killed Moore because she tweeted that he had blocked her on Twitter after she told him he was a distraction because she didn't think he was going after elite pedophiles? Wow. Sawyer killed Jenny Moore, huh? That's what you're going with. With zero evidence, OF COURSE.

How can you people look yourself in the mirror? In what universe does an accusation like this do anything but add to the mounting pile of evidence that Barnett is indeed running an army of trolls to attack people who are fighting pedophiles? Goddamn.

@think- @Crensch @New4now @Sandhog

kingzos ago

The IRS Form 990 (which I posted a link to) shows $4,000 taken out of the charity every month to "CRS Security". Sawyer's full name is Craig Randall Sawyer. This is not a smear: it is in their 990 return. The organization has no employees, it pays for travel and marketing. When the 2018 form is published, we will learn if the Nascar sponsorship is part of that.

I have no opinion on the legality of collecting funds from all states with Federal registration but not individual state registration. I note that Jason Goodman has accused Robert David Steele of fraud for this very thing, and has had Sawyer on his show multiple times. This shows Goodman is a hypocrite, but does not in my opinion prove in itself that Sawyer or Steele are criminals.

Fiona produced multiple months' worth of cashed checks for $7,000 per month to the same company, CRS, from the movie production company. He takes donations directly into the charity, and syphons that out into the security consulting company. Then he pays the video production company to "make a documentary" that is "going to be on Netflix". We see no documentary on Netflix, but we see multiple months of checks for $7,000 per month from the production company to "CRS Security". The checks are stamped as having been cashed. Whether or not this is legal in Arizona, it is unquestionably unethical, deceptive, and self-serving.

You say "do you actually think that should happen for free". Well this is either something to make money for Craig Sawyer, or something to stop child sex trafficking. Hey, it can even be both - but don't try to pretend it isn't, especially when the IRS has granted you tax-exempt status.

Fiona is being accused of all those things, but this "dossier" which reminds me of the Trump "pee pee" dossier which we now know was created by the intelligence community, doesn't show any evidence. Months of cashed checks and the IRS Form are ACTUAL EVIDENCE of what Sawyer is doing.

Sawyer says the documentary makers "stole the footage" and are being prosecuted but it is 3 months now, nobody has been arrested. What is the prosecution? Others say that he didn't want to pay the producer to complete the movie.

Sawyer promoted the movie "Contraland" with the Netflix logo. It was never signed to Netflix.

These people are frauds, but worse than that, frauds with TOP SECRET clearances.

I'm sorry but your understanding is not correct. Lore Hoyt worked for V4CR, and was the person who went on the stings and arrested the pedophiles. She is a licensed private investigator and has worked on this sort of stuff for many years, including on previous shows using this format eg To Catch a Predator. She is an important source because she actually worked inside the organization, she is the one who got the pedophiles arrested in conjunction with Law Enforcement Officers. Both Craig and Tressa Sawyer confided in her about Aspen's behavior.

I linked to Lorelei's twitter, she has posted a huge amount of evidence here, perhaps someone else would like to go through it and collate it for those who can't be bother scrolling through themselves. She basically started sharing the truth when she left the organization after Jen Moore's death. Read her Twitter and let her explain who she is and what she did in her own words, there's no need for me to try to speak for her.

The military are not allowed to operate domestically, under a rule named Posse Comitatus that dates back to the days of Julius Caesar. The CIA are not either. So if he is running Tier One operations domestically, that should be of great concern to everyone.

He served as a mercenary, ask around of people in the military if they consider that type of work to be noble and honorable.

It is a fact that Jen Moore questioned Sawyer's involvement in 9/11 immediately before her death. Read her twiiter or watch the #govLARP video. This also goes into Robyn Gritz's strange connections to 9/11.

An interesting technique of sophistry, you are trying to put words in my mouth. However, the connection between what Jen Moore was researching and what's been going on in Arizona is significant.

I am not implying that Sawyer killed Moore - though I'm curious to know where he was that night and if anyone was with him - but the whole Arizona Mafia, NXIVM, and Mexico connection needs to be looked at seriously by any researchers in this space. That's exactly what Jen Moore was doing, she was on a massive tweet storm in the days leading up to her sudden death. Marcus Conte obtained the autopsy report and she was covered in bruises. George Webb's behavior was extremely strange the day after her death. If you believe anything Webb says he is heavily connected to intelligence agencies.

Let's stack up Fiona and Lorelei's evidence against the Sawyers. In fact, we don't need to, just go to https://fionabarnett.org or @loreleihoyt

Fiona has given sworn testimony under oath to a Royal Commission. Sawyer has used the Netflix logo to promote a documentary that was not even made, let alone scheduled by Netflix. Let him produce some evidence. They say they have rescued 1000 children, prove it.

Vindicator ago

An interesting technique of sophistry, you are trying to put words in my mouth. However, the connection between what Jen Moore was researching and what's been going on in Arizona is significant.

So...you say "Jenny Moore was found dead 3 days after calling him out on Twitter" implying there is a connection between her supposed death and Craig Sawyer, deny you're implying Sawyer killed Moore, further add that "the connection between what Jen Moore was researching and what's been going on in Arizona is significant" and then say that I am using sophistry!? Wow. I'm surprised you can type while generating that much spin. This is not honest, straightforward communication.

George Webb's behavior was extremely strange the day after her death. If you believe anything Webb says he is heavily connected to intelligence agencies.

I don't believe anything Webb says. He is a pizzagate denier. He has admitted he is Mossad. He generates nothing but drama, distraction and disinfo.

the whole Arizona Mafia, NXIVM, and Mexico connection needs to be looked at seriously by any researchers in this space.

I agree. So why aren't you doing that?

That's exactly what Jen Moore was doing, she was on a massive tweet storm in the days leading up to her sudden death. Marcus Conte obtained the autopsy report and she was covered in bruises.

Oh? I've repeatedly asked for a link to the death certificate and autopsy. No one has ever produced it, here.

Jenny Moore worked with Webb. Several people on this board claim to know for a fact that Jenny Moore was Jem777 here on Voat (though none has ever proved it), and that user was completely full of shit. She lied multiple times, claimed I tracked her IP, sent thugs to her house to beat her up, and didn't take what she claimed were death threats against her seriously, which was total bullshit. She also ignored the submission rules repeatedly and when she was finally banned for it, tried to drum up a posse to get the ban removed...very much like a few people are behaving with regard to Fiona being questioned, in fact.

This whole thing...the squad of unknown users showing up to cheerlead for Barnett, the evidence-free drama-rich saga of Jem777/Jenny Moore, the instigation of internecine warfare between people trying to stop child sexual abuse...it all reeks of hardcore information warfare designed to distract, disrupt, discourage and divide the community of citizen investigators who want to bring the truth to light.

@think- @Crensch @Sandhog @New4now @shewhomustbeobeyed

kingzos ago

Full autopsy report here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVLEMKmKfZQ

Jem777 was definitely Moore, her conversations with Skrayzie after visiting Comet Ping Pong with Webb confirm that.

new4now ago

agree

Jem/Jenny Moore and Sawyer both had the community split from the get go

but there was not much opposition against Fiona

I never questioned Fiona and believed what she had said

I dont twit, I dont follow

so lost track of her till now

Sawyer, I was iffy on, it could have been a homeless place that had children there

but I believed his intentions

Kappy...he felt like a Feldman

Jem's death....too many questions, no answers

I didnt even know she was Task Force until after the talk of her death

as for George Webb, didnt like him from the start, but most info on Jenny came from him

Cant help but think someone choreographed this

it plays well for the Pizzagate Goats in causing division

something everyone should think on

Vindicator ago

You and I are pretty much on the same page.

think- ago

I'm surprised you can type while generating that much spin.

LOL

it all reeks of hardcore information warfare designed to distract, disrupt, discourage and divide the community of citizen investigators who want to bring the truth to light

Indeed.

SandHog ago

Oh? I've repeatedly asked for a link to the death certificate and autopsy. No one has ever produced it, here.

Moore's autopsy report was indeed obtained by Marcus Conte and it stated she died of hypertensive cardiovascular disease. He goes through and shows the whole thing but didn't put the doc up online anywhere. He's kind of a troll but the case number is 18-09789 so anyone can spend a couple bucks and request a copy of it.

Jenny Moore worked with Webb.

Webb, Jason Goodman, Dave Acton (Webb's brother) and that whole crowd are all youtube vultures and network with each other to spread a ton of disinfo and drama. As for Jenny Moore, she was either very naive and got sucked into their horseshit or she was a knowing participant. Allegedly she left all her research with Thomas Paine of True Pundit about the guy claimed he was raped by Bill Clinton but nothing, to my knowledge, ever came of that. The story was extremely far-fetched as it involved Trump rescuing the kid off of a boat with his helicopter. So I tend to think she was just making stuff up for e-bucks.

This whole thing...the squad of unknown users showing up to cheerlead for Barnett, the evidence-free drama-rich saga of Jem777/Jenny Moore, the instigation of internecine warfare between people trying to stop child sexual abuse...it all reeks of hardcore information warfare designed to distract, disrupt, discourage and divide the community of citizen investigators who want to bring the truth to light.

Agreed. Fiona nuking her social media accounts after that stuff on her came out was a giant red flag to me. Imo, she has done more damage to the cause with her petty attacks and accusations than the awareness she raised about it. Whether that was by design or not I don't know but then I never really paid her much mind anyway. I do know she liked to sic her followers on people for disagreeing with her which is pretty pathetic.

Vindicator ago

@MolochHunter @Shizy @srayzie @kevdude @argosciv Please see parent thread regarding Jenny Moore.

srayzie ago

I witnessed all Jenny Moore’s dishonesty, and lies against you, and I’m not believing anything without a death certificate.

Shizy ago

That user made two comments when the account began 1.6 years ago and then nothing until white knighting for Fiona Barnett beginning 10 days ago. I don't believe a word @kingzos says!

If they want to produce an autopsy report on Jenny Moore to prove there was bruising, and that she even died, that would be a different story! Until then, this is all fiction!

Crensch ago

I'd be interested in a list of the things faggots like this show up to provide disinfo and drama over.

And a list of the stuff breaking otherwise at the same time.

Vindicator ago

Ha ha...so would I! Been trying to get my head around that for some time, now. Still trying!

Vindicator ago

Fiona produced multiple months' worth of cashed checks for $7,000 per month to the same company, CRS, from the movie production company. He takes donations directly into the charity, and syphons that out into the security consulting company. Then he pays the video production company to "make a documentary" that is "going to be on Netflix". We see no documentary on Netflix, but we see multiple months of checks for $7,000 per month from the production company to "CRS Security". The checks are stamped as having been cashed. Whether or not this is legal in Arizona, it is unquestionably unethical, deceptive, and self-serving.

Well, if Fiona had included images of these items with a high enough resolution to actually verify all these claims, it would be worth discussing. But in light of the fact that she did not, and also mischaracterized his nonprofit status, this just looks like more smoke and mirrors.

I happen to agree with you that Sawyer's claim the producer stole the footage sounds pretty sketchy. The only place I've heard that is from Barnett, though. As I said, I haven't followed ANY of these people closely. And the minute I start digging into any of this, I get attacked simply for asking for evidence and pointing out deceptive tactics. That tells me a lot.

kingzos ago

She did, on her Twitter. Maybe it's available on the Wayback Machine

Vindicator ago

Conveniently, Fiona erased her Twitter.

SandHog ago

How can you people look yourself in the mirror? In what universe does an accusation like this do anything but add to the mounting pile of evidence that Barnett is indeed running an army of trolls to attack people who are fighting pedophiles? Goddamn.

That's the problem with most of these people who publicly put themselves out there as investigators, victims or researchers. A lot of them are just slinging shit at each other over perceived slights all the while while claiming to be working towards stopping child abuse. I have a very hard time putting a lot of stock in people who seem to value their own ego over a goal that they all claim to share. It's really quite shameful behavior and all it accomplishes is rallying one person's followers against another and sows chaos and dissent across the board as we can clearly see happening here. It's very frustrating watching this happen time and time again as narcissists joust over who should be regarded as the penultimate authority on the subject. A subject that happens to have many different facets to it that intersect in some ways and not in others. So many of them seem to be blinded to this fact and so they are insistent that their particular battleground is the only real fight and everyone that doesn't agree is an imbecile. It's so fucking stupid. That's not even taking into account all of the trolls and groups that are actively trying to muddy the water and cover shit up. Everyone involved in these constant spats should be fucking ashamed of themselves for engaging in this behavior.

Crensch ago

This was the user that previously posted good info?

Quick descent, IMO.

Vindicator ago

Not sure how good the info was he posted. Been trying to verify it but not having much luck.