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4freedomsring ago

Father Martin is a fraud, Check out the Crucifix on the rosary. Depicts Jesus with his arms folded, not outstretched.
This is a satanic mockery of our Christ .

Christ was crucified with his hands outstretched, as an sacrifice for out sins. This fake cross denies the willing atonement that Jesus made for our sins.

carmencita ago

I just saw it! OOH, I wish I could upvoat you 100 times. I am going to check it out He is blasphemous and what he is doing is a Sacrilege. What do you suppose that means? Jesus with his arms crossed. To cross the arms means you are closed to discussion, is what I found on the internet. In other words, Christ is not inclusive? This priest is a heretic. Does anyone know what this signifies? @HennyPenny @Gilderoy @Vindicator @NOMOCHOMO @Factfinder2

NOMOCHOMO ago

Personally, I dont like any depictions of Christ, as I consider them idolatry. But I'm not a Catholic, so that's part of it ;)

Exodus 20:4-5

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

To me any visual representation of Christ is deification of a man's interpretation. And it causes divides in believers as we dont actually know what Jesus looked like. (The whole black Jesus vs white Jesus debate over "skin of bronze"). From what I can tell, the Catholic Crucifix clearly shows a European Dude.

Buuuut, looking at it from a Catholic perspective, I can understand what you are seeing. Symbols mean things. And changing the crucifix is a definite symbolic attempt at subverting the "traditional" Catholic Church

carmencita ago

Thank You for responding. Since you are not Catholic I think you also see the devastation the death of the Catholic Church would mean. Death of All Christianity is their goal. There was at one point a Black Christ statue in Mexico somewhere and it was confiscated. Sick. I don't care what color they made him but if THEY change it now I will be as suspicious as HE77. Note that it says the goat symbol is the devil. Good Grief. All of this scares me mainly because of as you say, the Traditional Catholic Church. It is the closest thing we had to the beginning. Not saying all of the bowing and adoring is good but it depends on what is in the heart of the person. For me it means a closeness to Jesus. Never really idolized him. Love is what comes to mind. This is all very frightening to me.

NOMOCHOMO ago

it depends on what is in the heart of the person.

<3 :) the truth is written on all of our hearts

carmencita ago

Yep. It's not really a good idea to be too much of a holy roller because it usually drives others away. We know of the one in the family that has religious stuff on every wall and talks about it all the time, well usually the Children turn out the opposite. Better to live a life of love for yourself and others with minimal adoration <3

NOMOCHOMO ago

Yep, don't be a pharisee (holy for others to see)

carmencita ago

I think you hit on something. Many are surely doing it to please others of the same ilk. The worst kind of faith.