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thekla ago

If you will permit me some patience in this. About two weeks ago Francis preached the tactic of "silence" in the face of all the homosexual and pederasty revelations in his church. It was, to say the least, shocking. But in looking deeper we find it is nothing new. That is his pattern. This is from 2012 or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=329&v=WqM3WeRl7Z4

Factfinder2 ago

In Argentina, he was a deadly silencer of opposition. That's no doubt what has prompted whistleblower Archbishop Vigano to issue a dead man's switch: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2718425

What's reallly odd about Bergoglio is his apparent switch from conservative in Argentina to progressive now that he's pope. You have to wonder whether he's an actor in a larger plan.

thekla ago

I'm not convinced he was a conservative in fact. Argentina, in is known for a particular sort of theology, Liberation Theology. We know it best in the form of Jeremiah Wright. Recognize that name? If you don't, think Obama's pastor in Chicago. That's the sort of theology he had. It could be that Francis was still "silent" even in that, meaning he didn't parade it about.

Recall that photo from Q 1953?

Evo Morales gave that cross as a gift to Francis on his first trip back to South America. Francis wasn’t pleased with it. You can read about it in the article I've linked. But here’s the deal.

  1. Morales had to have felt comfortable in giving that gift to him. There was something in Francis that permitted him to do this. Something that allowed him to say, “This is right for this man.” You don't just give that sort of a gift to a pope unless you know you can. You don't want to make the Pope mad. Morales thought he was safe to do it.
  2. Francis was a priest in South America for many years before he was a Pope visiting from Italy.
  3. That means Morales would likely have heard him once or several times as a priest, bishop, or cardinal.
  4. When Francis the Pope rejected the gift he was recognizing what should be according to Roman Catholic tradition. The cross was not right with that.
  5. However, how a man speaks and what he does as a priest toward his people speaks more loudly as to what he really believes.
  6. Morales gave him that sort of cross because Francis spoke that sort of theology. He acted like a Communist with the government. He was a Communist.

The new Pope was “outed” in that picture. Not by what he rejected, but by what one of his former parishioners gave him as a gift. He is a Communist. An infidel.

http://time.com/3952444/pope-francis-crucifix-hammer-and-sickle/

See, that picture is mirroring. Evo Morales is reflecting back to Francis who he truly is.

Factfinder2 ago

Bergoglio turned liberation theologists over to the military junta. You're saying that was for show--that he was pretending to be conservative? Could be.

thekla ago

"Bergoglio turned liberation theologists over to the military junta." I wouldn't put it that way. His theological form is classified as Liberation Theology. That is important to understand how he sees his place in the world regarding politics. Liberation Theology is more at home with Socialism, which is the forerunner to Communism. That's what has him by the willies right now. His Liberation Theology is what makes him say thing like, "Who am I to condemn?" about gays. Then it leads him to think he must be silent in the face of overwhelming evidence of pedo- and priest- pederasty abuse. His silence was a condemnation in the past. This is what he needs to face. It is now a condemnation of sorts to many who recognize it for what it is, failure to speak for the innocent. That is his pattern. Liberation Theology is the Obama "Lead from Behind" sort of stuff. Sometimes people need to be called out for what they have done wrong.

I think what this is doing is leading up to something sinister. Softening people to accepting a gay priesthood, and eventually pedophilia. After all, if they cannot be cured, if they are "born that way," if they cannot be condemned, then they must be accepted. An now Francis has called his critic the devil. Is this not a familiar patter over all?

Factfinder2 ago

I think what this is doing is leading up to something sinister. Softening people to accepting a gay priesthood, and eventually pedophilia. After all, if they cannot be cured, if they are "born that way," if they cannot be condemned, then they must be accepted

Obviously true. Doesn't look like it's going to pan out for Bergo, though. People are beginning to come to their senses.