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Are_we_sure ago

Vigano did not make allegations of child sex abuse did he?

The allegations he spoke about were of McCarrick with seminarians, college age and adults, I beleive.

Blacksmith21 ago

As usual, you are wrong:

"Pope Francis faces civil war in Catholic Church over child sex abuse scandal"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1011605/Pope-francis-catholic-church-child-sex-abuse-carlo-maria-vigano

Are_we_sure ago

need to go a little deeper than that chief.

Are_we_sure ago

Vigano's claim that the previous pope had put McCarrick under sanctions is belied by the fact, that no restrictions seemed to be placed on McCarrick and that Vigano was part of the coverup because he publicly praised McCarrick.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/world/europe/pope-francis-benedict-mccarrick.html

At a gala dinner in the luxury Pierre Hotel in Manhattan in 2012, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, Pope Benedict’s top diplomat in the United States, bestowed an award for missionary service on Cardinal Theodore McCarrick and praised him as “very much loved from us all.”

But if Archbishop Viganò is to be believed, he was keeping a troubling secret — a claim that is at the heart of a new scandal that has thrown the church into upheaval and led some conservatives to call for Pope Francis to resign.

The archbishop now says he was aware at the time of the gala that Cardinal McCarrick, the former archbishop of Washington, was under orders from Pope Benedict XVI to stop appearing in public on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church because he had sexually abused adult seminary students.

Archbishop Viganò did not explain why he agreed to publicly laud a cardinal under sanctions. But LifeSiteNews — a website run by conservative Catholics — quoted the archbishop on Friday as saying that he could not back out of the event.

Even beyond the gala dinner, however, a review of Cardinal McCarrick’s activities during the years he was supposedly restricted under Benedict showed that he visited seminaries and ordained new priests, officiated at Masses and traveled the world representing the church.

Blacksmith21 ago

Try searching "vigano child sex". Many articles calling it "child sex abuse". Spin it however you want.

What is it pedophiles like to say? "Sex before 8, or it's too late?" C'mon, you know the saying....just sayin'.

Are_we_sure ago

see the article I just posted on Vigano and see why people are skeptical.

Many people feel Vigano and his allies are cynically using the child sex scandal as a way of fighting long standing battles. So far he has not provided evidence for his claims.

Blacksmith21 ago

What about all the accusers and victims? Are they fighting a long-standing battle too?

Are_we_sure ago

That's the point. They are cynically using the pedophile scandal. (Did you hear about the Pope's actual news today?) Vigano and his allies are claiming the previous pope was told, but blaming this pope. The only pope who has actually started taking steps against the sex scandals.

Notice how this claim from a fucking Breitbart article (Steve Bannon is alleged to be part of this war on the Pope, btw) is the thing that gets posted here.....did the Pope actually say what was claimed?....drowns out the big step the Pope actually did take.

I will say this again. Vigano provided no evidence Pope Francis knew what he claims Pope Francis knew. In fact, the evidence he puts forward is that John Paul and Benedict knew and Vigano knew, but he kept quiet year after year after year.

Blacksmith21 ago

All your bullshit aside, did you see Inn at Little Washington finally got 3 Michelin stars?

How to celebrate?

Mrs. Lovett's Meat Pies? Or something from The Kitchen?

In either case, I've whipped up something about the 127 grains. Nice aftertaste of cardomomlead.

What was that old recipe from The Standard....?

Are_we_sure ago

No. I did not.

I don't get any of the other references, so if you want to spell them out please do.