Clinton had no idea who Silsby was. - True or False? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by srayzie

Resident shill @Are_we_sure says Clinton has no idea who Silsby was.

Pizza-gate has never been about concern for children. It's been about using concern for children in the most cynical sick way to attack political opponents.

Pizza-gate is also based on several easily disproven lies. Clinton had no idea who Silsby was. There's no coded language in Podesta's emails. There is zero evidence of child trafficking at comet ping pong. Etc,Etc.

Part of the pizzagate Silsby story was Clinton had known about Silsby and was following her since 2001. They claimed to have a found an email from 2001 that showed this. This was completely false. In fact the document they claim is an email from 2001 was clearly written in Jan 2010 AFTER the Haitian earthquake had struck because it talks about the 2010 Earthquake...

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Andidog ago

This is obvious dis information, all evidence points to direct state Department intervention at the highest level. We couldn’t even get state Department intervention for the detention of Laura Ling in DPRK at the same time. And she was taken from the Chinese side of the border into NK.

Are_we_sure ago

This is obvious dis information, all evidence points to direct state Department intervention at the highest level.

This is straight up false.

We couldn’t even get state Department intervention for the detention of Laura Ling in DPRK at the same time. And she was taken from the Chinese side of the border into NK.

Yeah our embassy in North Korea, really dropped the ball on this one. Didn't they. Wait, what's that we have no embassy in North Korea! That seems pretty big. And Lisa Ling, can you tell us why we have no embassy in North Korea?

Ms. LISA LING: The U.S. and North Korea have no diplomatic relationship. So they only communicate through a third-party country in Sweden, or through the six-party talks or from a humanitarian mission that they have in New York. But other than that, communication is next to zero.

So Lisa Ling even if we had no diplomatic relations with North Korea did you get any help from the State Department?

Ms. LISA LING: Well, from the get go, Vice President Gore and members from the State Department who had been advising us had strongly suggested that we keep things very, very quiet. And that was very understandable because we didn't know exactly what happened to Laura and Euna.

So we were also fearing that the North Koreans might do something drastic. I mean, this is a highly, highly unpredictable regime. The story that Laura and Euna were covering was a very, very sensitive one. So before knowing anything, we just thought we should maintain silence.

But I just started to reach out to as many contacts as I could, and one of the people who is most closely associated with U.S.-North Korea relations, is Governor of New Mexico Bill Richardson. He, of all American - of any American -has had the most successes in negotiating the releases of previous American detainees in North Korea. So he was a natural, sort of, connection to make.

And he was incredibly helpful from the start, and told me that he would start making contacts with the State Department and his contacts in North Korea. And a couple of days into our conversations, he was actually approached by President Obama and Secretary Clinton, and asked to actually help on our behalf.

http://www.wbur.org/npr/126613763/story.php

There's no comparison between the two situations. And it doesn't matter whatsoever that the NK border guards chased her back over the river, she was being held in North Korea.

What actually happened

Not Hillary: State Department rebuffs call for Clinton intervention in Haiti case

February 9, 2010

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will not get directly involved in the case of the 10 Americans detained in Haiti on child abduction charges, a State Department spokesman said Tuesday.

"It would be highly unusual for the secretary of state to intervene in a case involving the judicial process of another country," spokesman P.J. Crowley said in an off-camera question-and-answer session. "We have had regular consular access and meetings with the 10 American citizens," Crowley said. "I believe we have facilitated getting medicine or other needs to our citizens. We are doing exactly what we would do with detained Americans anywhere in the world.

"As to intervening directly in the case, we are very respectful of the Haitian government and of Haitian law."

Not Bill

The State Department also has ruled out any special role for former President Bill Clinton in a possible release of the Americans.

"It is unnecessary for former President Bill Clinton to play the role of intermediary as he did in North Korea in the case of the journalists being held," Crowley told CNN on Monday. "The situation in North Korea and the situation in Haiti are dramatically different. In Haiti there is a functioning government with which we have diplomatic relations and established channels to monitor and deal with bilateral issues. North Korea is an opaque society with which we have no diplomatic relations."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/09/haiti.clinton.arrests/index.html

Andidog ago

Fair points

septimasexta ago

FROM THE ARCHIVES "Pizzagate Wiki vs. Robot Army: How a Reddit post about Laura Silsby and Max Maccoby broke the Internet 24 days ago

rebelskum64 in pedogate

Two days ago the Pizzagate Wiki experienced an unprecedented DDoS attack for several continuous hours. At the exact same time the Wiki was experiencing a massive surge in users being directed from a Reddit post on convicted child trafficker Laura Silsby. This makes the fourth major cyberattack against the Pizzagate Wiki following attacks on the original Pizzagate Review, the Wiki's DynCorp page and the Wiki's Stratfor page. In addition to these new users, a huge wave of bots came with them and proceeded to overwhelm the Pizzagate Wiki server, starting with the curiously named, "mj12bot". Apparently mj12bot is part of a United Kingdom search engine founded by Alex Chudnovsky whose mission for MJ12 is this: Since the task of building a World Wide Web search engine is so huge, we have chosen to make Majestic-12 Distributed Search Engine based on the concept of distributed computing. The idea being that many machines work on one task to get it done quicker than one large machine alone. Apparently this "distributed search engine" felt the need to assault my Franklin Scandal, Max Maccoby, Laura Silsby and other pages with thousands upon thousands of 0-byte requests from different IPs. MJ12bot was easy to spot, however, as it was listed and visible in the visitor's "User Agent", and was quickly blocked. In a matter of seconds, however, new bots arrived. Almost a hundred different "ocarinabots", "FAKE USER AGENTS" and various other bizarre User Agents were assaulting the Pizzagate Wiki with similar, 0-byte requests. Curiously enough, for many hours the only users able to connect to the Pizzagate Wiki were from Georgetown, FL. After playing virtual chess with a literal army of robots, I was able to stop the attacks for the time being and users from the Reddit thread were able to see the relevant information they needed for the most part. Why, however, was the link between Laura Silsby and Max Maccoby targeted this time around? For posterity, here is what is written in Max Maccoby's section for the Pizzagate Wiki on Laura Silsby's page, which was the epicenter of the attack: Connection to Max Maccoby and James Achilles Alefantis James Achilles Alefantis is friends with Michael Maccoby. Michael's son, Max Maccoby, is a Director of Friends of the Orphans, the charity Laura Silsby was given children from while in Haiti.(22), (23) , (24) This same Max Maccoby also represented James Achilles Alefantis and David Brock for an $850,000 blackmail case.(25) More details and in-depth analysis on the attack will be published in this week's Rebel Outpost, but I thought it worth mentioning here in case it were to escalate further and actually damage the Pizzagate Wiki. It is unlike any attack I have ever seen in my life, but is clearly from an advanced botnet."

https://steemit.com/pedogate/@rebelskum/pizzagate-wiki-vs-robot-army-how-a-reddit-post-about-laura-silsby-and-max-mccoby-broke-the-internet



Are_we_sure ago

Cool story.

However, there is no connection between Maccoby and Silsby. This part is false

is a Director of Friends of the Orphans, the charity Laura Silsby was given children from while in Haiti

We know exactly where Silsby got the children from. The AP went and spoke to all the parents http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-ap-finds-all-baptist-groups-orphans-had-parents-2010feb21-story.html

So the Alefanti-Maccoby-Silsby connection is also false. It's based on a claim by the liar, conman, fake laywer and at-the-time child trafficking fugitive Jorge Puello who we know was lying about all sorts of things during this time. But when you go and look at what actually happened there's no way what he is saying could be true. Again we know EXACTLY where the children came from and we know EXACTLY where the Maccoby orphanage was located. They aren't even in the same towns.

A reporter's visit Saturday to the rubble-strewn Citron slum, where 13 of the children lived, led to their parents, all of whom said they turned their youngsters over to the missionary group voluntarily in hopes of getting them to safety.

Similar explanations were given by parents in the mountain town of Callabas, outside Port-au-Prince, who told the AP on Feb. 3 that desperation and blind faith led them to hand over 20 children to the Baptist group.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2122947 https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2153386/10615474

Andidog ago

Wow. Thanks for the intel.