Black people have been dealing with this stuff for decades. Look up Night Doctors - not the same as the pizza people, but close enough. Black people are also generally more religious and aware of evil in the world. American whites tend to trust their government, at least until Watergate. Blacks know better.
Black people are also generally more religious and aware of evil in the world.
Yes, I think that is why the Spirit Cooking thing coming out right before the election was the most damaging part of pizzagate. It struck a real blow to the black and hispanic turnout for Dems. It will be VERY interesting seeing how that vote goes in the next election.
That's a good point. I hadn't thought of it before. Not only the Spirit Cooking, but Hillary channelling Eleanor Roosevelt, the voodoo stuff - some black people are into that, but generally they tend to be Christian at heart, even if their lifestyles aren't, at least in my experience.
Toured a 300-year-old haunted house once in Virginia while on a family vacation. There were a couple of black ladies on the tour. We all got to try out various gadgets used by "ghost hunters". One lady had a dowsing rod thing, which twisted in her hands and clearly swung to point at the fireplace when we all walked into an upstairs bedroom. The poor lady shrieked, dropped it and beat feet out of there so fast she didn't even get to hear the story of how the lady of the house died at that hearth at the hands of someone wielding a fireplace poker. You could hear her exclaiming as they left: "Oh NO. No. No no no. Not having NONE of that. Nope."
Yep! I don't know if it is cultural or what, but African Americans are generally not at all into any sort of weird occultism, aside from the few into voodoo/hoodoo.
And it occurs to me that you never see that depicted in movies or television, do you. I can think of numerous examples of blacks being depicted as into Voodoo...almost none as being anything else other than agnostic or atheist. Think of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, the blacks portrayed in various seasons of American Horror Story, etc. Interesting.
They have been waking up for a while now. I think they are becoming more aware of how good they had/have it and they see that slipping away to Mexicans and Muslims and other illegals.
I'm surprised Kanye is just recently getting traction for this. When I was in a rough middle school, it was a common conspiracy theory that the 'old' rappers (Tupac/Biggie/etc) were offed for talking about the internals of the industry on their own labels. Apparently, most of the rappers would start their own labels once they got big enough, which meant there was little oversight until the album was published (as far as I know, this trend started with Tupac, who was the first rapper to describe forced sodomy in the industry in a published song).
Kanye in particular is known for this - he has a habit of ranting at his own shows, once basically canceling his own show to call out whom he refers to as 'the illuminati' in industry, and was promptly admitted to re-programming-hab after.
Kanye isn't very coherent, but ill post the links for the interested. This rant is from 2013, when he is first meeting resistance for trying to expand out of entertaining. He labels the media as his enemy, and describes trying to get in with 'powerful people', who he feels are trying to limit him to entertainment. His cynicism is moderate.
This one is from 2016, where cynicism is at maximum levels, and he calls out many names who his fans now suspect are cabal bosses. Supposedly management tried to yank him off stage at the end.
I remember that! A lot of people were #triggered because those "conspiracy theories" were "antisemitic." The label bosses were generally Jewish, and some rappers like Professor Griff made much of that fact.
Yeah. I don't know if you have looked into this lately, but all of the hints dropped by the 'old guard' have now been spun as race baiting since I last looked into this (e.g. 'the industry is a metaphor for white systemic oppression'), and recordings where they explicitly call out sodomy/rituals/etc have been wiped from the internet (I can only find references to people talking about Tupac talking about the gay sex rituals, but can't find the actual recordings themselves anymore). D&C is as strong as ever.
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Vindicator ago
Giving this the "Share" flair.
Is it me, or is there a trend of black folks waking up?
dias17se ago
They are just looking for more customers on our side.
mrohm ago
Black people have been dealing with this stuff for decades. Look up Night Doctors - not the same as the pizza people, but close enough. Black people are also generally more religious and aware of evil in the world. American whites tend to trust their government, at least until Watergate. Blacks know better.
Joe10jo ago
Agree! It’s like black people have a 6th sense about things that are evil.
truthdemon ago
When u get ur ass kicked in day in and day out...u get a first sense of things ...not just a sixth sense
Vindicator ago
Yes, I think that is why the Spirit Cooking thing coming out right before the election was the most damaging part of pizzagate. It struck a real blow to the black and hispanic turnout for Dems. It will be VERY interesting seeing how that vote goes in the next election.
mrohm ago
That's a good point. I hadn't thought of it before. Not only the Spirit Cooking, but Hillary channelling Eleanor Roosevelt, the voodoo stuff - some black people are into that, but generally they tend to be Christian at heart, even if their lifestyles aren't, at least in my experience.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
Eleanor Roosevelt???
mrohm ago
http://plinthos.blogspot.com/2016/02/hillary-clintons-witchcraft.html
The Clintons minimise it, saying that they weren't seances or channelling, but "therapeutic." Still, it was weird.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
Yeah but what about Eleanor Roosevelt?
mrohm ago
Hillary was channelling her, or communing with her.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
So what you're saying is ER was a witch? This is news to me.
mrohm ago
No, Hillary is. ER is long since passed.
Vindicator ago
Toured a 300-year-old haunted house once in Virginia while on a family vacation. There were a couple of black ladies on the tour. We all got to try out various gadgets used by "ghost hunters". One lady had a dowsing rod thing, which twisted in her hands and clearly swung to point at the fireplace when we all walked into an upstairs bedroom. The poor lady shrieked, dropped it and beat feet out of there so fast she didn't even get to hear the story of how the lady of the house died at that hearth at the hands of someone wielding a fireplace poker. You could hear her exclaiming as they left: "Oh NO. No. No no no. Not having NONE of that. Nope."
mrohm ago
Yep! I don't know if it is cultural or what, but African Americans are generally not at all into any sort of weird occultism, aside from the few into voodoo/hoodoo.
Vindicator ago
And it occurs to me that you never see that depicted in movies or television, do you. I can think of numerous examples of blacks being depicted as into Voodoo...almost none as being anything else other than agnostic or atheist. Think of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, the blacks portrayed in various seasons of American Horror Story, etc. Interesting.
VoatieMcVoatFace ago
They have been waking up for a while now. I think they are becoming more aware of how good they had/have it and they see that slipping away to Mexicans and Muslims and other illegals.
drozzxd ago
Got the ball rolling with Kayne and Candice Owens. The tide is turning, slowly, but definitely turning.
hollar_4_hots ago
yes and don't forget Stacy on the right Stacy Washington
alele-opathic ago
I'm surprised Kanye is just recently getting traction for this. When I was in a rough middle school, it was a common conspiracy theory that the 'old' rappers (Tupac/Biggie/etc) were offed for talking about the internals of the industry on their own labels. Apparently, most of the rappers would start their own labels once they got big enough, which meant there was little oversight until the album was published (as far as I know, this trend started with Tupac, who was the first rapper to describe forced sodomy in the industry in a published song).
Kanye in particular is known for this - he has a habit of ranting at his own shows, once basically canceling his own show to call out whom he refers to as 'the illuminati' in industry, and was promptly admitted to re-programming-hab after.
Kanye isn't very coherent, but ill post the links for the interested. This rant is from 2013, when he is first meeting resistance for trying to expand out of entertaining. He labels the media as his enemy, and describes trying to get in with 'powerful people', who he feels are trying to limit him to entertainment. His cynicism is moderate.
This one is from 2016, where cynicism is at maximum levels, and he calls out many names who his fans now suspect are cabal bosses. Supposedly management tried to yank him off stage at the end.
new4now ago
DMX, B.o.B, Prodigy, Rick Ross, There's been a few speaking out before Kanye
it's doesn't end well for them, Busta has to know this
Mammy ago
Remember when Charleton Heston called out Time Warner for endorsing Ice T''s lyrics? Alas, we need more like Challeton. Heston Reads Rap Music, shocks Time Warner
mrohm ago
I remember that! A lot of people were #triggered because those "conspiracy theories" were "antisemitic." The label bosses were generally Jewish, and some rappers like Professor Griff made much of that fact.
alele-opathic ago
Yeah. I don't know if you have looked into this lately, but all of the hints dropped by the 'old guard' have now been spun as race baiting since I last looked into this (e.g. 'the industry is a metaphor for white systemic oppression'), and recordings where they explicitly call out sodomy/rituals/etc have been wiped from the internet (I can only find references to people talking about Tupac talking about the gay sex rituals, but can't find the actual recordings themselves anymore). D&C is as strong as ever.