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Page 294 of the IG report discusses an Investigator who left the following notes after being briefed on the the pedophiles laptop:
1.) Anthony Weiner
2.) Unrelated notes
3.) Weiner tweeting 15yo - sexually explicit
9/26 federal SW - IPhone/iPad/ laptop
Initial analysis of laptop
Hillary Clinton & foundation
Crime Against children
At this point there is no telling what this could be referring to. Maybe those rumors about the Hillary video on writers laptop is true. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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septimasexta ago
DEMAND THAT POTUS RELEASE THE NON-REDACTED ROD ROSENSTEIN VERSION! Call your Senators!
Good catch! Fox reporter actually directs viewers to part of 500 page document the mentions Weiner's laptop! THINGS ARE HAPPENING. Let's hope they end well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xna9QR-H-2M
septimasexta ago
It is significant that current reporting on the IG report don't mention the role of the NYPD in the initial seizure of Weiner's laptop.
Here is an important article written Sept. 22, 2016...the devices were turned over to Granite Intelligence on Sept. 23, 2016 http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/22/nypd-investigates-anthony-weiner/
NYPD, Prosecutors Probe Claim That Anthony Weiner Sent Explicit Messages To Girl, 15 "NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — The NYPD and other authorities confirmed Thursday afternoon that they are investigating the latest claims against Anthony Weiner.
A police source confirmed to CBS2 that the NYPD Special Victims Unit, the Manhattan District Attorney’s office, and the U.S. Attorney’s office are investigating Weiner, CBS2’s Dana Tyler reported."
"The report appeared in Britain’s Daily Mail and claimed that Weiner sent the girl shirtless photos of himself and more graphic messages."
"As of late Thursday afternoon, police had not spoken to Weiner or the teen, sources said."
"Police on Thursday were trying to contact the teenage girl, and the U.S. Attorney’s office is issuing subpoenas as part of its probe, sources said."
"On Wednesday when the story surfaced, CBS2 reached out to Weiner.
Weiner offered this response to the article: “I have repeatedly demonstrated terrible judgment about the people I have communicated with online and the things I have sent,” he said. “I am filled with regret and heartbroken for those I hurt. While I have provided the Daily Mail with information showing that I have likely been the subject of a hoax,..."
septimasexta ago
WHY WAS THE NYPD NOT MENTIONED IN THE JUST-RELEASED OIG REPORT?
Early information indicates the the NYPD discovered the contents of Weiner laptop first, including the alleged "insurance" file.
Eric Prince does an initial leak: Weinergate - NYPD Forces FBI Comey to Open Clinton Investigation - Breitbart Eric Prince Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg1r3BAPVbo
Tracy Beanz ties it together with early OIG report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vjjkPs-5qk
BOMBSHELL: McCabe OIG Report and Loretta Lynch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWgPkGlxWV4
THEY SPECULATE THAT THE NYPD WAS SILENCED. Q indicates that the recently released OIG report has been redacted. Also indicates that POTUS has full report and has authority to release. What do YOU think about this??????
Are_we__sure ago
There's no information that indicates this. Zero.
By the time Erik Prince gave that story, the fake NYPD story was being pushed for at least 5 days. This post is the first mention on Facebook, goes back to late October. The Woman's name is not real and the real woman behind the account is a 60 year old woman in Joplin, MO. You know, exactly the type of person to have deep NYPD contacts. When she was found out she refused to explain how she came across her allegations.
http://cdn.theeventchronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_1201.jpg
So freaking dumb. Does anybody know what redacted means? Can you point to a single redaction in the report?
septimasexta ago
"There's no information that indicates this. Zero." Post the Federal paper trail. Who initiated them going after Weiner and WHEN? Did the NYPD have any contact with Weiner and said laptop? CBS local news reported NYPD initial involvement. Show me the NYPD paper trail on this case. THE TRUTH WILL OUT
Are_we_sure ago
CBS did not report involvement. CBS reported a local investigation was opened. Same day a federal investigation was opened. Same days the feds opened their investigation, they also filed a subpoena. Google it. Who Initiated this? The US Attorney of the Southern District of New York. You want the federal paper trail. Look up the unsealed Weiner laptop warrant. It was discussed in tons of details on voat within the last two weeks.
Here's the timeline.
2016 Sept 21 UK press reports on Weiner.
Sept 22 NYPD announces investigation US attorney announces investigation. US attorney also issues federal subpoena for Weiner's electronic devices. This is the key.
Sept 23 Weiner turns his devices over to a security firm (probably on advice of his lawyer, to avoid a charge of tampering with evidence.)
Sept 26 Judge grants a federal search warrant. FBI acts on search warrant and seizes with Ipad, his Iphone and a Dell laptop.
Sept 28 By this point, if not earlier, emails from domains clintonemail.com are known to be on Weiner's laptop. FBI agents start discussing the fact they will need another warrant to examine them because they Weiner warrant does not allow them to read the Clinton emails.
Sept 21 and 22 are from news report in 2016. Sept 23-26 is from the unsealed warrant. Sept 28th is from the IG report.
No. NYPD never issued a search warrant. The claim that the NYPD had the laptop first is false. The claim that the FBI took the laptop away from the NYPD is false.
There is no NYPD paper trail. The FBI got the laptop from Weiner and examined it and noticed almost immediately it contained Clinton emails and then kept close wraps on it. The IG report mentions that one FBI agent was working on with an image copy of the Weiner laptop on his computer. His computer had to be wiped because of the potential that classified material might be on computer and his computer was not secure.
It's unclear if the NYPD got to look at Weiner's laptop at all. The NYPD has never said anything publicly about this case. The IG report never mentions the NYPD at all. The one piece of evidence that suggest they had something to do was the day that Weiner plead guilty, the US attorney thanked the Special Victims Division of the NYPD for their help. But it didn't indicate what that help was.
All this is on voat with links, I remember the federal warrant for the weiner's laptop was published by the NY Post.
The True Pundit/Erik Prince story is destroyed. Remember a key element of that was that if Comey didn't indict Clinton the NYPD was going to come forward. She was not indicted and nothing happened? Why? The whole thing was a hoax.
septimasexta ago
"Sept 22 NYPD announces investigation US attorney announces investigation. US attorney also issues federal subpoena for Weiner's electronic devices. This is the key."
THIS IS THE BIG HOLE IN YOUR ARGUMENT. You are using my timeline posted earlier. THERE IS NO MENTION THAT THE SEPT. 22 FEDERAL SUPOENA WAS FOR WEINER'S ELECTRONIC DEVICES.
""A federal search warrant was obtained on September 26, 2016, for Weiner’s iPhone, iPad, and laptop computer. The FBI obtained these devices the same day. The search warrant authorized the government to search for evidence relating to the following crimes: transmitting obscene material to a minor, sexual exploitation of children, and activities related to child pornography." HOW DID THE FEDS KNOW WHAT TO SPECIFICALLY ASK FOR?
According to the NY CBS article I linked above, the origin of the Weiner sexting story was the British Daily Mail, published on September 21, 2016. On September 22, 2016, CBS reported that "A police source confirmed to CBS2 that the NYPD Special Victims Unit, the Manhattan District Attorney’s office, and the U.S. Attorney’s office are investigating Weiner, CBS2’s Dana Tyler reported."
Interestingly "As of late Thursday afternoon (September 22), police had not spoken to Weiner or the teen, sources said." "Police on Thursday were trying to contact the teenage girl, and the U.S. Attorney’s office is issuing subpoenas as part of its probe, sources said." http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/22/nypd-investigates-anthony-weiner/
"A newly unsealed, search-and-seizure warrant obtained by the feds shows that the disgraced ex-pol (Weiner) handed over an iPhone, iPad and laptop computer to Granite Intelligence on Sept. 23, 2016." https://nypost.com/2018/05/17/search-warrant-for-weiners-electronic-devices-unsealed/
"A federal search warrant was obtained on September 26, 2016, for Weiner’s iPhone, iPad, and laptop computer. The FBI obtained these devices the same day." OIG Report
ALSO "The search warrant authorized the government to search for evidence relating to the following crimes: transmitting obscene material to a minor, sexual exploitation of children, and activities related to child pornography." OIG Report
According to "Attachment A, an "insurance file" could have been searched to determine ownership of laptop and if it contained child "porn" they also could have looked at it as per the conditions of the search warrant. Scroll down to "Search and Seizure Document" and go to "Attachment A, #2 and #3. https://nypost.com/2018/05/17/search-warrant-for-weiners-electronic-devices-unsealed/
WHAT WAS NYPD'S ROLL IN ALL OF THIS? By what legal authority did the U.S. Attorney, NY jump into this based on a news article in a foreign paper? According to CBS, the Feds were "issuing subpoenas as part of its probe" on September 22, 2016. Did Weiner ever talk to the NYPD?""
Are_we__sure ago
There is not a HOLE in.my argument and I'm using the actual timeline of the case which is more detailed and more informed than yours .
There is plenty of mentions on Sept 22, that federal subpoena was for Weiner's cell phone and other records.
So 22nd subpoena announced.
23 Weiner hands over his electronic devices to Granite Security. The FBI asks for a warrant to seize these specific devices from Granite.
Sept 26th warrant granted and FBI seizes three devices that day.
None. NYPD had no role.
By being the chief law enforcement officer in this district as established the Judiciary Act of 1879. And by persuading a federal judge in that district, that the article represented probable cause.
Are_we_sure ago
This whole thing becomes a lot, lot clearer if you put the True Pundits/Erik Prince NYPD hoax story out of your mind and look at the evidence we know is true.
All these questions go away, once you stop trying to fit the hoax with the known facts.
It's really not a complicated story. The Feds got the laptop and held onto the laptop. They found evidence of one criminal, Anthony Weiner. He plead guilty to crimes related to a single victim.
Given that the crimes crossed state lines, it makes sense that this was a federal case.
septimasexta ago
" NYPD had no role." That's a lie. I was told by a Congressional aid that I would have to use FOIA to get an answer to my request for a paper trail for the laptop from the NYPD and the Feds. No one said the NYPD was not involved. PLEASE POST YOUR OFFICIAL FOIA REQUEST that answers my question with the official paper trail. Until then...WE ARE SURE YOU ARE A SHILL.
septimasexta ago
"This part is incoherent. There's no mention whatsoever of an insurance file and they did not need to establish who owned the laptop. "
YOU ARE WRONG. The released copy of the Search Warrant for the 2 cell phones and LAPTOP in possession of Granite enabled them to search for evidence of device ownership.
"The warrant shows that the only “probably cause” the FBI found on the laptop that drove their request to go through emails on the laptop they believed were linked to Clinton was the email subject lines and the fact that Clinton’s top aide was Weiner’s estranged wife. Beyond that, there was little evidence to support their request for the warrant." The alleged leak said there was a "Insurance" subject line. I suppose an investigator could click on it to find out proof of ownership. https://heavy.com/news/2016/12/fbi-warrant-anthony-weiner-laptop-hillary-clinton-emails-full-document-comey-letter/
"Lawyers for Huma Abedin filed a letter in the case saying that the government never provided Abedin or her estranged ex-husband Anthony Weiner with a copy of the warrant.
Under federal law the officer executing the warrant must give a copy to the person whose property is taken. This case is slightly more complicated by the fact that the laptop had already been confiscated for the other investigation, a sexting scandal involving Weiner and a minor. " WHO DID THE FBI GET THE LAPTOP FROM? THE NYPD? WE DO NOT HAVE THE COMPLETE PAPER TRAIL OF THAT LAPTOP. The FBI got it LAST. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-judge-unseals-hillary-clinton-warrant-used-to-search-anthony-weiners-computer/
"Eleven days before the 2016 presidential election, Comey announced that the FBI had discovered emails possibly "pertinent" to the Clinton email server probe "in connection with an unrelated case." That unrelated case was New York prosecutors' separate investigation into allegations that Weiner -- a former New York congressman and the estranged husband of Abedin -- had sexted with an underage girl." https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/29/politics/huma-abedin-state-department-email-release/index.html
This was the probable cause used in the FBI LAPTOP search warrant: 18 U.S.C. § 793 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 18. Crimes and Criminal Procedure § 793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information "(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer--
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both." https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-18-crimes-and-criminal-procedure/18-usc-sect-793.html
HERE'S THE ACTUAL SEARCH WARRANT Search warrant for Weiner’s electronic devices unsealed https://nypost.com/2018/05/17/search-warrant-for-weiners-electronic-devices-unsealed/
THE FBI ALSO SEARCHED FOR: "Evidence...including child pornography.." "Evidence of who used,owned or controlled the Subject Devices..." ONE COULD JUSTIFY LOOKING INTO A FILE MARKED "INSURANCE". If it contained "p o r n", they could keep investigating it.
"This warrant also authorizes the copying of electronically stored information for later review"
This is what is alleged the NYPD did. Thus, the laptop would have still been in Weiner's possession to turn over to Granite and then the FBI.
THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM: According to the NY CBS affiliate, it was the DAILY MAIL story and CELL PHONE evidence that got the NYPD and Feds involved in the Weiner sexting case. THEY ONLY SHOWED CELL PHONE SCREEN SHOTS IN THE ARTICLE. How did the NYPD or the Feds know about the LAPTOP if they did not search the apartment? WAS ANY "sexting" evidence ever found on the laptop???????? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3790824/Anthony-Weiner-carried-months-long-online-sexual-relationship-troubled-15-year-old-girl-telling-hard-asking-dress-school-girl-outfits-pressing-engage-rape-fantasies.html
Thus, the alleged leaks HAVE NOT BEEN DISPROVEN.
Are_we_sure ago
This is just incoherent. Did you think a Congressional aide would have an answer for you?
Since you want to try to find out how many angels dance on the head of a pin.
Let's look at the facts without assuming facts not in evidence (that the NYPD had the laptop first, there's no evidence for this.)
My Claim:
The NYPD had no role whatsoever in the FBI seizing the laptop. They seized it under a federal warrant. And the chain of possession was Weiner>Granite Security>FBI
My Evidence:
Weiner has his laptop.
Sep 21. Daily Mail publishing teensexting story
Sep 22 News outlets report NYPD opens an investigation into Weiner.
Sept 22 News outlets report US Attorney opens and investigation into Weiner. They also report the US attorney has issued a subpoena for Weiner cell phone records and other records. https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/politics/first-on-cnn-us-attorney-investigating-weiner-sexting-allegations/
Sept 23 Weiner transfers his laptop to Granite Security as mentioned in the Federal search warrant. It remains in the Possession of Granite until it is seized by the FBI
Sept 24 Granite
Septe 25 Granite
Sept 26 "A federal search warrant was obtained on September 26, 2016, for Weiner’s iPhone, iPad, and laptop computer. The FBI obtained these devices the same day. " - IG Report.
Evening of Sep 26 or Morning of Sep 27 FBI agent processing Weiner laptop sees
Sept 28 Assistant Director of NY FBI office is briefed that the laptop has Clinton emails.
Conclusion
We know the chain of possession of Weiner's laptop and at no point did the NYPD ever touch Weiner's laptop during this week.
Tell me what's wrong with that conclusion.
septimasexta ago
"We know the chain of possession of Weiner's laptop and at no point did the NYPD ever touch Weiner's laptop during this week."
That is false. The NYPD could have searched the Weiners' home on the on the 21 or the 22 of Sept. 2016. CBS claimed they reached out to Weiner on the 21st. They also claim that the NYPD was involved in the investigation. THEY NEVER SAY TO WHAT EXTENT. There has been no released FOIA request for any NYPD search warrant. If the leak is true, powerful people would not want that info outed. Remember Loretta Lynch's involvement, mentioned in the OIG report. "Leaks"
"Prosecutors in the office of US Attorney Preet Bharara have issued a subpoena for Anthony Weiner's cell phone and other records, according to law enforcement officials. "
They specifically listed a DEVICE (cell phone) and "other RECORDS" "Other records" does not mean LAPTOP. Also, the info comes from UNNAMED OFFICIALS.
"The announcement by the FBI and New York Police Department that they are investigating close Clinton ally Anthony Weiner's inappropriate relationship with an underaged female is extremely disturbing," Jessica Ditto said. "The Clinton campaign should immediately return all campaign contributions from Weiner." Again, THE NYPD IS INVOLVED. They are LOCAL government. They have THEIR OWN AUTHORITY to investigate this. They could have a search warrant that allows them to COPY everything on discovered devices, just like the FEDS did. This is consistent with the alleged leak. The NYPD would not have to confiscate the devices to have all the info.
HAIR BLUE SHILLS DON'T HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON.
Are_we__sure ago
I don't think you are actually trying to deal with a real world scenario here. I think you are just trying to cram a NYPD investigation into one of the only slivers of time left for your claims to work. Remember it has to work with these known facts.
They could not have searched Weiner's home on the 21st. Given that the story broke on the 21st, there's no real world way this could happen. Remember first word that an NYPD investigation happened was on Set 22nd. The 21st is out.
How about the 22nd? For your claim to work, the NYPD would have had to do all of the following on Sept 21- 22nd. Before the FBI starts writing up their warrant claim on the 23rd. * Learn about Weiner article * Open investigation. * Establish probable cause. * Petition judge for search warrant. * Get search warrant approved. * Execute search warrant. * Process Weiner's laptop enough to discover crimes involving other people.
So that's a lot of stuff to happen in the first, say 36 hours after learning about a potential crime. And, remember, there is no documented evidence this happened.
And the timing isn't even the biggest problem with this scenario.
What would the NYPD do with the laptop after they got a search and seizure warrant for it?
The NYPD gives it back to Weiner?????!!!!!
The federal warrant makes it clear that the laptop was in Weiner's possession before it was transferred to Granite Security. The warrant says the laptop and other devices "were transferred by Target Subject to Granite Intelligence, LLC."
Weiner's the Target Subject. So for your scenario to work the NYPD gets a warrant for his laptop, executes the warrant and seizes the laptop and THEN GIVE IT BACK TO HIM THE NEXT DAY?
This is preposterous.
I think this is the source of all your confusion. There were TWO investigations and they were separate. There was a federal investigation and a local investigation.
There is of now, no evidence a NYPD search warrant ever existed.
We know the leak is not true. The leak said someone on the NYPD would "go public" if Clinton was not indicted. She was not indicted. She was cleared. Nothing came out of the NYPD.
You are putting an awfully lot on a quote from a reporter as opposed to THE ACTUAL LEGAL DOCUMENTS you can read. Also I think it's quite probable that they records refers to cell phone records, such as calls and texts, other internet communication records like skype calls, messenger apps, etc. This point doesn't seem to advance your argument.
Yes, but it's a separate investigation.
This is not consistent with the alleged leak, because they alleged leak said they did have the laptop.
This makes no sense whatsoever. How would they copy the info if they didn't have the device? Are you saying they got a copy from the FBI, because that destroys the leak story as well.
How does this help your story at all? The usual type of subpoena would be something like "preserve all records, communications, internet history and let us know what devices you use." The subpoena would have gone to Weiner's lawyer and they probably asked him what devices he used to connect to the internet or to text. There's nothing about this that means the NYPD had the laptop.
Preet Bharara's office jumped into action and seized Weiner's laptop. If he wanted to protect Clinton, or Democrats in general, he could have slow walked this case. You're flying off the rails here into conspiracyland. All of the actions you mentioned were after this case and after Donald Trump personally asked Bharara to stay on.
Also your point about Bharara is undercut, by the fact, it was assistant US attorneys who put this all together,....."Prosecutors in the office of US Attorney Preet Bharara"....... that happens in most cases in US Attorney offices. It's also undercut, by the fact, the conviction was secured under Bharara's replacement.
There is of course, zero evidence Bharara did anything inppropriately in this case.
septimasexta ago
"Prosecutors in the office of US Attorney Preet Bharara have issued a subpoena.."
THIS IS A MISSING DOCUMENT. We need to know EXACTLY what was asked for. If they SPECIFICALLY ask for a LAPTOP, then we must ask HOW DID THEY KNOW TO ASK FOR A LAPTOP?
AND WHAT ABOUT Preet Bharara?
"Preet Bharara, the US attorney for the Southern District of New York who President Donald Trump fired just three months into his presidency.." "On Wednesday, it was announced that Bharara had been hired as a senior legal analyst at CNN." CAN YOU SAY BIASED?????? Was he protecting HILLARY? https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/20/politics/preet-bharara-podcast-trump-firing/index.html