Source: https://tucson.com/news/local/steller-column-sex-trafficking-conspiracy-catches-fire-despite-lack-of/article_b6b6c798-22a3-5ccb-9fb2-99cdccfc73d9.html [it doesn't like adblocker]
Relevant to Pizzagate as article directly addresses the Tuscon child trafficking story as another "conspiracy theory" and Pizzagate is the "forebearer" of the group of nutjobs. There are some pretty big, gaping holes in the story, and the 4 word name guy seems "off" ( he is not a Vet, if I understand correctly). Not much is known, but in 2015 VOP seemed to be attempting to do good work: http://www.azfamily.com/story/30331814/veterans-group-aim-to-help-homeless-vets Did VOP guy turn? Set up? Trap?
This is where it gets important - Tuscon.com is a Gannett property. Gannett is USA Today and a zillion other properties. There is a reason they are in every hotel, every morning, for free. Just like CNN is anywhere and everywhere. This messaging will be pumped out to mass eyes and ears. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gannett_Company - Gannett is a couple miles from the CIA. Always has been.
So if we apply that logic, their #1 goal was discrediting Pizzagate, which we all assume is real. Why would they conflate Pizzagate with the human trafficking story which was already discredited? It's NEWSPORN. Discredit. Control the narrative.
From this article, 2 days ago:
"This kind of allegation wouldn’t have had any power, though, if it weren’t for its antecedent, Pizzagate, and the wild story that grew out of it.
Pizzagate was a conspiracy theory that, boiled down, said Hillary Clinton and members of her campaign were trafficking children for sex from the basement of a Washington, D.C., pizzeria.
It turns out, the pizzeria doesn’t even have a basement, as a North Carolina man found out when he showed up armed with an AR-15 to liberate the captive kids and fired a shot into the ceiling."
Sound familiar? Maybe, just maybe the VOP guy is the Edgar Maddison Welch of Tuscon. Maybe Craig got in for a close look and backed off? Not everything is what it seems. You cannot always decide true/false in a matter of days. Long game. Not internet time. The eye-in-the-sky could have been watching the entire time and these do-gooder dufus walked stumbled across this during surveillance. Lots of things happen.
"..the Justice Department has been quietly arresting thousands of pedophiles under Trump’s tenure.
Craig Sawyer has been a believer in Q Anon and he played a role in supporting Lewis Arthur’s Tucson pedophile-ring conspiracy.
Sawyer, a former Navy Seal, has established a group called Vets 4 Child Rescue, which purports to interrupt child trafficking, and came to Tucson after hearing about the alleged sex-trafficking site here.
KGUN 9 interviewed Sawyer and treated him as if he were an expert.
Sawyer declared himself a believer but noted that he had been misinformed — he thought children had actually been found on the site."
See how Gannet is conflating actors and narratives? Discredit by weaving the narrative. Let's see what happens. At this point, anyone aligning with the viewpoint of state-controlled propaganda, in particular this article, should be suspect.
"Gannett Company, Inc. is a publicly traded American media holding company headquartered in Tysons Corner, Virginia, near McLean in Greater Washington DC.[3][4] It is the largest U.S. newspaper publisher as measured by total daily circulation."
They went here too: Pizzagate and Q Anon
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ESOTERICshade ago
Automatic down vote and report for spam because attaching the #Qanon hashtag to a post. My new policy.
Blacksmith21 ago
Thank you for identifying yourself. That didn't take long. Those who scream the loudest. My new policy.
ESOTERICshade ago
You bit the Q bait hook line and sinker. Considering this you cannot be taken seriously. I will read your post and see what it says. But from now on anything with "Q Shit Anon" gets my down vote.
I have been warning people about the unhinged leader of Veterans On Patrol. He is as destructive as QAnon to our cause. He did exactly in this situation what he did the last two times he climbed a tower and dared the cops to "come and get him." He discredited our cause. Him and Q both have to be flushed out, AND MAINLY, we can't embrace these people in the future because more of them will be sent our way. I'm tired of you gullible mother fuckers creating confusion.
Now the normies will read the following. Major set back for us. Don't fall for these fake people.
https://tucson.com/news/local/steller-column-sex-trafficking-conspiracy-catches-fire-despite-lack-of/article_b6b6c798-22a3-5ccb-9fb2-99cdccfc73d9.html
Blacksmith21 ago
The fact that you'd comment on something without reading it, or the source says a lot about your credibility.
ESOTERICshade ago
Notice how I don't down vote you when I talk to you, but like a little biatch you down vote me? Thats because....well...you figure it out.
Blacksmith21 ago
Nice stopping short of Pizzagate. What's the problem? You sound an awful lot like a limited hangout. I downvoat you because you're a fucking asshole.
QAnon wasn't the point of the article. The controlled narrative using Pizzagate as a discreditor, and tie it in with QAnon, Tuscon, etc. If anything, the article SUPPORTS your position in some regards. But alas, you didn't read it.
ESOTERICshade ago
I said "pizzagate has been real for thousands of years." Are you deaf or playing biatch games? Pizzagate was real before the term "pizzagate" was even coined. Basically its called "organized and institutionalized child rape." Are you deaf or just a little man child?
No shit Sherlock. So why trash up our forum with it? It has nothing to do with this subject, you INJECTED IT into our atmosphere. Why did you do that? You selling T-Shirts?
You actually made a couple of good points in your OP. But when you knee drag in here with stupid Q Anon, from now, i'm gonna point it out. Its stupid and it needs to die.
Blacksmith21 ago
Yeah, except the authors/owners of that article (Gannett) were specifically called out by QAnon in February.
"Gannett is also located in McLean, VA. Coincidence? Just the tip. Q"
Hopefully you can read that without getting triggered.
ESOTERICshade ago
A blind hog finds an acorn every now and then if it makes a thousand vague predictions. That Gannett thing was an instance of a specific topic that Q addressed and i'm admitting it.
The problem with "Q" is that there is no intel agent named Q. Its a bunch of larpers and the control changes hands every couple of months and the content shows that. The first couple of Q fakers were actually sort of interesting and led to a few interesting things. The new controllers of Q were more interested in making money and it all crashed.
Just let it go and make yourself valuable to the community. I believe your heart is in the right place, and I KNOW you have a lot to learn yet or you would have never fallen for that bullshit in the first place.
Blacksmith21 ago
The blind hog theory has left the station.
ESOTERICshade ago
The measure of a man's character is not what he does right, or how he acts when things are going great, but how he deals with his mistakes. Food for thought.
Blacksmith21 ago
Find another person here who has publicly corrected themselves, as have I.
ESOTERICshade ago
Your Q branded thread went over like a shit pile of bricks. Pull head from ass, look around, find mirror, look at self, correct errors. Right now you are just an arrogant mother fucker making himself look bad. Is that who you want to be?
Blacksmith21 ago
[yawn]
ESOTERICshade ago
That is why you continue to repeat your mistakes and are often useless to the cause. You are never wrong. Good luck with that.
Blacksmith21 ago
And you are a liar.
ESOTERICshade ago
In order for you to become what you think you are, you would first have to have what is known as an "ego death" and its more painful than battery acid. I went through it.
Its obvious to me that you are not there and probably never will be. An ego death is not for the faint of heart, and most people don't understand what that means, and never will.
That ego is eating your ass alive. This Monkey is the ego and it enslaves most people. In order for you to become this bad dog, which is what you want to be, you have to get rid of that Monkey on your back. The ego thinks its hot shit, and its nothing.
https://files.catbox.moe/qnb5js.jpg
Stop being vapid, find your true self.
Blacksmith21 ago
Stop trying to sound like you're smart. We all know assholes who exhibit that type of behavior. Don't be one of those assholes.
Blacksmith21 ago
I lost most of my ego a long time ago. I'm stuck in a bizarre confluence of life circumstances which puts me in a very, unique position vis a vis Pizzagate/Deep State, which you will never remotely understand from a front row seat POV.
If I suffered from an over-inflated ego, I would be arguing my position. Which I am not. I have no need to defend my position, or defend myself to you. Your concern-trolling is weak, at best.
ESOTERICshade ago
I spent 7 years fighting to stay alive from this pizzagate shit. I was doing this before the word Pizzagate was even born. There ain't much you can tell me about this shit that I don't already know. I had to stop because I had three surgeries from this shit.
Newbie nomenclature. Not impressed. I also saw you tellling another poster that you were a confederate southerner. And you don't even know pigs live in Arizon. Fails bro.
When and if, if ever, that ego dies, you will have a position. Until then, you are a slave.
Blacksmith21 ago
1) I asked if anyone knew if pigs were an issue in that specific AO - area of operations - what the fuck do you think that means? If you wanna talk crawling through pig runs with CC Filson canvas gear and a .44 mag w/ iron sights hunting pigs, come and talk to me. Again - you have no idea WTF you are talking about.
2) I've spent my whole life fighting this shit. My fucking family is Deep State, NWO, 3rd Reich, 4th Reich - whatever the flavor of the day is. So spare me your righteous indignation for someone else.
3) "Biatch"? What's next? Talk to the hand.
ESOTERICshade ago
roflmao. those of us that know, we don't speak like that
Blacksmith21 ago
You conveniently ignored #1. Would you like to show me how smart you are about whipping up wildcat handloads for the .44 Mag? Or how about optimizing terminal ballistics in .308 optimized for free floating barrels? And I'm positive you can give me some pointers on the best maintenance regimens on high power precision rifles. Come on....out with the knowledge Mr. Knowitall.
ESOTERICshade ago
big man gun talk. ok
Blacksmith21 ago
You just showed your vag while your nipples simultaneously leaked.
Don't ever fucking call me out on something again you little cocksucker. Unless you are prepared to come armed with facts.
Which you obviously do not have. Question my Southern heritage and knowledge of hunting and guns? Then I destroy you?
"big man gun talk"
And you pull the Trudeau card? You're a little ballet dancing bottom.
Little. Faggot. Punk.
ESOTERICshade ago
Like I said, you little fake biatch, only one of us has has 1 down vote in our conversation. You down vote me because you are a man child. I don't need to down vote you because i'm a real man. Let that sink in, Biatch
Blacksmith21 ago
You are a pussy mouthed cocksucker, and that's all you are, cuck. Name a "man subject" and let's discuss....you can't. Pussy.
You called me out about guns and hunting and YOU HAVE NOTHING....You got owned little faggot. Stick to the subject. Tell me what you know about guns, Man.
ESOTERICshade ago
@rarepeeks was right. you are a fucking Israeli dog.
ESOTERICshade ago
Naaaa, i'm gonna pretend that i'm you
"you hurt my fee fees, i have nothing of substance to add, fuck you wrong person, i be big confederate southern man that don't know wild pigs live in the southern part of the united states. i rit, u rong, down vote u bitch"
ESOTERICshade ago
you're thread and your credibility sunk to the bottom of the sea. I can't help you with that.
Blacksmith21 ago
The bleat of desperation.
ESOTERICshade ago
Cant help you with that, failed Alinsky student, you better study the Hasbara manual some more becaue you keep fucking yourself. Because, you just ain't good at this.
Blacksmith21 ago
@oh_well_ian @vincator @srayzie @think-
When ^^^^ little boys get punked. Don't believe the hype. @Esoteric_shade is 100% bullshit. #obamastype
srayzie ago
You guys sound like you’re in an Alpha Male contest lol. Why not just ignore each other?
Blacksmith21 ago
Alpha male contests require 2 alpha males. He's a cuck. Nothing male about @esoteric_shade.
Blacksmith21 ago
Oh I forgot, you have a "secret code" and a decoder ring.
ESOTERICshade ago
Indeed. And we don't give it to idiots.