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Fateswebb ago

Could you please give a comment that's ashorter paragraph or two explaining this? It's all confusing. Thanks.

migratorypatterns ago

Craig Sawyer: [1] completely contradicted his statements made on the 6/4/2018 Hagmann video; [2] has taken down his first video where he stated he was called in by a THIRD PARTY and in the new video omits this fact and makes it sound as if VOP lied to him; [3] gives detailed compelling statements as to the evidence found at Tucson on the 6/4 video. He poses as an evidence expert and states that he CALLED THE FBI on the STRENGTH OF THAT EVIDENCE FOUND AT THE TUCSON SITE, but now says NOTHING WAS THERE!

chickyrogue ago

ooo so now they can gun for the verterans goes with their favorite narrative

ESOTERICshade ago

ooo so now they can gun for the verterans goes with their favorite narrative

That windbag full of shit from Veterans On Patrol is not a military guy and never been in the military. When he announces himself as "Veterans On Patrol" people immediately think he is a veteran and HE KNOWS that and takes advantage of it. This is called "Stolen Valor" because that faker is not a military guy.

think- ago

When he announces himself as "Veterans On Patrol" people immediately think he is a veteran and HE KNOWS that

Oh come on, Esoteric. To my knowledge, he never said he was a veteran. That would have been stolen valor. 'Veterans On Patrol' is the group's name, and they openly say that homeless people they've helped in the past joined them. Even calling for more support from non-veterans now.

So everybody knows or can know they're not only veterans.

And I haven't heard any accusations that they only pretend to help homeless vets. It seems they've been doing some good work during the last three years. And they don't accept money.

Who gives a fuck whether the spokesperson in this case climbed some post or was a druggie?

I'm interested what the real story is here, not whether he was a meth head.

ESOTERICshade ago

Oh come on, Esoteric. To my knowledge, he never said he was a veteran.

I can show you a video of him knocking on a door. The people answer the door and ask "Who are you?" He answers "Veterans On Patrol." So of course they think he is a veteran and he plays on that. You know he does.


Oh come on, Esoteric. To my knowledge, he never said he was a veteran.

That little weasel uses stolen valor as currency.


I'm interested what the real story is here, not whether he was a meth head.

Me too. He is a loser. I have watched 40 hours of video. I hate to say "take my word for it" but I can't put 40 hours of video in your head in this comment.

think- ago

The people answer the door and ask "Who are you?" He answers "Veterans On Patrol." So of course they think he is a veteran and he plays on that.

What would you actually expect him to say?

'Veterans On Patrol', but just for the record, I'm not a veteran, in fact, only 75% of our group are veterans, they rest are civilians.'? Come on.

Here's an article about their work:

http://www.azfamily.com/story/30331814/veterans-group-aim-to-help-homeless-vets

I have no idea what the true story is in this case. I could tell from the shill activity on the sub that something was wrong with it, but couldn't wrap my head around it what it was.

Actually I'm more worried about Sawyer, whom I've never trusted, than about this Meyer guy.

He'll be forgotten within days, but Sawyer will be still out there, pretending to be a hero.

ESOTERICshade ago

Actually I'm more worried about Sawyer, whom I've never trusted, than about this Meyer guy.

He'll be forgotten within days, but Sawyer will be still out there, pretending to be a hero.

True that. The VOP meth tweaker will fade but Sawyer will be with us for a long time. Everybody wants to make money and i'm sure he does too. Hell, if I had a chance to make a lot of money doing something honest I would do it too. But is Sawyer honest? Does he have a good heart? I have no reason to trust him or distrust him. I have not made my mind up about him yet. I'm leaning toward not trusting him as my default position.

think- ago

Imo he's a limited hangout, just like his buddy AJ.