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carmencita ago

Since you posted the Etan and Milk Carton link I wanted to research. Found this about ICMEC and milk cartons and something very frightening that they are pushing about Missing Children.

http://www.freerangekids.com/group-that-put-missing-kids-pictures-on-milk-cartons-now-says-dont-teach-kids-stranger-danger/

On Good Morning America last week, a spokesman for the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children — the people who put the missing kids’ pictures on the milk cartons without bothering to explain that the vast majority were runaways or taken in custody disputes, not nabbed by predators — told parents NOT to teach their kids stranger danger.

And actually, NCMEC told me that, too, when I interviewed them for my book — I quote them. But it always felt like they were talking out of both sides of their mouth, because when they were interviewed by OTHER sources, they kept warning about all the danger out there.

Dr. Marty Klein, whose Sex, Culture and Intelligence blog’s motto is “Changing the Way People, Politics & the Media Look at Sex,” did the heavy lifting on why this late-date “Don’t demonize strangers” statement seems both welcome AND hypocritical:

Yesterday, Callahan Walsh of NCMEC—The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children—appeared on Good Morning America to urge parents to stop using the phrase “stranger danger”—the phrase that NCMEC itself popularized for decades. They rightly noted—finally—that most child sexual exploitation is from someone known to the child, not a stranger.

For decades, NCMEC has told parents to fear “stranger danger,” and instructed them to transmit this fear to their kids. They even got the phrase institutionalized in elementary schools.

NCMEC has been one of the single biggest drivers of parents’ fear in our lifetime. By conflating “missing” and “exploited,” they have panicked Americans into thinking the average child is “at risk” of being kidnapped. By talking about “children” they conflate the experiences of five-year-olds and 17-year-olds. According to their own website, over 90% of “missing” teens are not “missing,” they have run away. Some are no doubt living on the street and risking their health and lives, but they have not been kidnapped. In fact, over 3/4 of runaways are running away from institutions like foster homes and other social services.

THEY Are Spreading The Word That There Are Not That Many Missing Children! They Are Getting Through According To The Comments.

They are the ones that started the pictures on the Milk Cartons. I really feel this is frightening.

Enigmatic_Continuum ago

Wow! So, the milk carton thing may have been a psyop all along while the real missing children went largely ignored. Isn't it funny that they wanted the parents scared, but Spock and Brazelton wanted the milk carton photos stopped because it unnecessarily scared children.

This entire thing stinks to high hell. Mighty hard to abduct kids when they're scared of getting kidnapped, so why not ease the worry, but keep the parents scared, so the kids will eventually think their parents are being overprotective and reject the warnings their parents are giving them. Is this the ultimate reverse psychology? After all, this thread is mainly about the childhood psychology. The rabbit hole deepens.

Cc1914 ago

Wow! Now that's an eye opener ! Keeping parents scared and kids thinking we are just overly protective in turn the kids rebel and say " oh mom your too paranoid " or something like that .. wow ! This theory just made so much sense now ..

Enigmatic_Continuum ago

Yeah, it's pretty ingenious if the theory is correct.

carmencita ago

Yes, Reverse Psychology. But now they are trying to Hood Wink again. Trying to get people to believe there aren't that many Missing Children. Kidnapping is not the same as Trafficking. There are sometimes Ransoms asked for Kidnapped Children. A whole different thing. They are trying to change their tune again. As often as their socks.

adaya ago

Thanks for info on Etan Patz and Milk cartons, I heard it was Johnny Gosch. Didn't know anything about Etan.

Do think NCMEC making wrong choice about "stranger danger." I grew up in awful neighborhood. Lots of child snatchings. Posters of missing kids did look like a head on a stick warning, terrifying to other kids. So, we walked to the store in groups & instead of talking Batman vs. Superman it was fight strategies to get out of trunks, and vulnerable body parts that kids could reach. Do think it points to psyop and further possibility of fox in the hen house behavior from NCMEC to drop it completely. Especially b/c the rise of human trafficking epidemic!

carmencita ago

Believe me, we have researched NCMEC up the ying yang. They def are up to fooling the public. And, if you read the comments, the people are being fooled. So sad that people do not question anything nowadays. But then we do, so that is uplifting. Spreading this to others is how to make headway. Other Moms & Dads need to know.

adaya ago

Completely agree. Truth best present parents ever gave me, even when it was rough.

Re:NCMEC past posting...I've been thinking about collection re-posts. So much good work already done, sometimes feels hidden in jars & pockets of internet. Search Voat awesome actually, but wonder are collection posts obnoxious to users? Guess could ask for mod advice too...on reminder -remember when-icymi-link collections. So hack, but @ least sophomoric for a lurker.

Enigmatic_Continuum ago

So many different angles they're working, which they know they need in order to get to all of the kids.

carmencita ago

Exactly. Her it takes a village statement was really clever. People listened because many thought, Wow, yes we need all the people we can get to help our children. But she had different ideas.

Enigmatic_Continuum ago

Exactly. I remember a time when family lived nearby one another and you didn't have to rely on the "village" to help you with child care because your family members could help. Now, we don't know who to trust to watch our kids. Glad I don't have any.

carmencita ago

People used to watch out for all the kids on their block. Because Moms did not work. I think this was one reason they wanted the Women's Movement to succeed. Not that I don't think women should not work if they so desire. But the economy was better and allowed it. Now things are not the same and most women HAVE to work. I am a firm believer in staying home if at all possible until the children are ready for HS. This is of course sounds like a Dreamworld. As I said, if at all possible.