Honeybee confirms in evidence, Laptop of Weiner given to Granite, never in NYPD's keeping (pizzagate)

submitted ago by MolochHunter

so we can all put that expectation to bed, finally, for ever, seriously.

https://twitter.com/TheHoneybee_/status/997760278187073536

(relevance to pizzagate for newbies, Eric Prince claimed that NYPD had weiners laptop and that it had an 'insurance' folder of dirt on Hillary / Huma Abedin that horrified NYPD staff)

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migratorypatterns ago

Sorry got interrupted. So my other comment confirmed that Weiner turned his iphone, laptop, etc. over to Granite on September 23, 2016. Then on September 26, 2016, the FBI seized possession. That's when Clinton's emails were discovered. Now this is where i'm confused about Honeybee's claim.

The NYPD was investigating the sexting claim. To investigate, they HAD to have at least a partial viewing of said evidence. We know they did because charges were brought against Weiner, and he was sentenced to two years in prison. So the NYPD HAD to have had access to some part of the electronic material. Here's proof of that assertion:

https://nypost.com/2016/09/22/nypd-investigating-weiners-sexting-relationship-with-teen/

By Rebecca Rosenberg, Jamie Schram, Tina Moore and Shawn Cohen

NYPD investigating Weiner’s sexting relationship with teen September 22, 2016

Prosecutors in US Attorney Preet Bharara’s office have issued a subpoena for Anthony Weiner’s cell phone and other records, law enforcement sources said.

NYPD detectives and the Manhattan DA’s office are also “looking into” allegations that Anthony Weiner engaged in a months-long sexting relationship with an underage girl, sources told The Post Thursday.

The NYPD’s Special Victims Unit is investigating the matter after a 15-year-old high-school student released a trove of sick texts and photos she allegedly received from the disgraced politician.

“We’re looking to see if a crime was committed in New York and if there’s a complainant,” an NYPD official said.

Again, this story was on September 22, 2016. The FBI seized the electronics on September 23. There was a trial, there was evidence presented, so the NYPD HAD to have seen something and been in possession of files.

Now the unsourced comment of an NYPD officer who viewed the files is unconfirmed. That's up-in-the-air as far as it being truthful, but the story of NYPD having viewed files is true. There has to be discovery and an evidenciary listing so perhaps that would tell what was recorded in the trial, but whether there were other things not pertinent to the case that were viewed, we don't know.

I tend to think the FBI seizure was a way of keeping a lid on the investigation, and why the records were sealed in the first place. Clinton's emails may have been Confidential and, therefore, not to be disseminated to anyone without clearance to view. It's why Comey reopened the email probe.

I'm still not clear as to why anyone would think the NYPD did not have the evidence in their possession. No, they didn't have the laptop because of the complications, but a viewing of the subpoena might help nail down what was turned over.

Are_we_sure ago

The NYPD was investigating the sexting claim. To investigate, they HAD to have at least a partial viewing of said evidence.

You are making an assumption here. This is not a fact. Lawyers call this "Assuming facts not in evidence."

You are doing the same thing here

There was a trial, there was evidence presented, so the NYPD HAD to have seen something and been in possession of files.

In fact, in this case, you seem to be drawing an usupported conclusion. First to start with Weiner did not have a trial. He plead guilty before a trial. He plead guilty in May and was sentence in September without a trial. Secondly, he plead guilty to federal charges and was sentence in federal court. The NYPD would not be involved here. He has never been charged with local crimes that would involve the NYPD. So all we know is the NYPD opened an investigation. That investigation could be open or that investigation can have been closed when he pled guilty in federal court.

That's up-in-the-air as far as it being truthful, but the story of NYPD having viewed files is true.

Again this here is unsupported.

I'm still not clear as to why anyone would think the NYPD did not have the evidence in their possession.

There's simply no independent evidence that points to it. There's just these claims of the FBI ripped the case and the laptop away from the NYPD. We know now those claims to be false.

Since many of these assumptions are unsupported, let's lay out what we do know.

The NYPD opened an investigation. The FBI got the laptop. The NYPD was investigating the sexting claim. To investigate, they HAD to have at least a partial viewing of said evidence. For the NYPD to view the evidence they would have to make a request to the FBI Shortly after the FBI got Weiner's laptop, they realized it would also apply to the Clinton case.
The FBI eventually got a warrant to read the Clinton emails.
An intensive effort was made to review the emails before the election.

Is there any other known evidence that is missing from this?

Conclusions/Questions

Could the FBI have allowed NYPD to view the evidence? Certainly possible. I think the NYPD would need a warrant. Otherwise they would not be entitled. If we find the NYPD had a warrant, that would be

Could have the FBI have given the laptop to the NYPD? I doubt this. I think they would have kept possession and let the NYPD review evidence.

Another possibility that is less secure would be they let make a disk image give the image to NYPD. I think if many people were reviewing evidence on the laptop and we know they were with the emails, they can't all be working on the same laptop. I think they would have loaded an image on to a secure network and had many people review at the same time.

I would also think this secure access would be READ ONLY. No editing or copying or saving locally. This is my assumption.

But in all this scenarios, I see nothing that supports the Erik Prince TruePundit versions.

So far I have seen no evidence the NYPD ever saw any contents of the laptop, in a secure setting or not. However, when the guilty plea was announced, the justice department said

We work every day in the FBI and law enforcement to stop adults from preying on vulnerable children. Our partnership with the NYPD cannot be stressed enough in this case, and we would like to thank the Special Victims Unit for all the work and effort they put into this investigation.”

But what that work or effort was is unclear.

urbanmoving ago

Are we sure get your timeline right bud

Are_we_sure ago

What am I missing?

Point out something that is missing an indicate if we know it to be true or we think it to be true. If we know it to be true, show the evidence. If we think it to be true, explain why.

urbanmoving ago

Everything and also you claim that Local authorities don't execute federal search warrants, they can and do...even arrests in fact the feds are so lazy, stupid, and corrupt they aren't capable of doing anything real arrests...the can only stage fake ones aka perp walks. Also search warrants subpeona's etc. in an NYPD/SVU investigation in NYC because of confidentially aren't broadcasted out there....but with the Feds because of leaks always right before at the time information was coming out. You clearly don't even grasp the idea of what happened. According to the Official story and the official agencies NY ACS and the original texting scandal beat the Feds by 22 days....that is a lot of damn time for casually 2 ACS workers and NYPD aren't too unfamiliar with each other. Also considering all the evidence showing pre-July cause for investigating Weiner are so sure the "Women" didn't contact authorities before then?

Are_we__sure ago

Putting a few replies together in one place

NYPD executes Federal search warrants all the time with the feebies, its "task forcing"

Do you really think seized a phone, a tablet and laptop requires a task force? You can't really be making this argument can you? Also you are merely engaging in a hypothetical without providing evidence. The evidence is the FBI executed the search warrant.

Why did you post the PDF about Michael Cohen? Is there something there you want me to look at?

One if Weiner was so compliant with a subpeona and not afraid/acting through whatever why was there a warrant needed?(You can forego that)

There could be a few reasons for this, but I would just be speculating. One might be they wanted to avoid the appearance of going easy on him. But in the end this is irrelevant. It doesn't matter one whit to the argument we are having, that it is now confirmed the NYPD did not get the laptop before the FBI. I'm arguing timing and possession, this is an attempt to argue how it happened. How it happened is irrelevant to this discussion.

Also typically a warrant is served cold first, witnesses are subpeona'd/ Subpeona's come last. Most people and 99.9% of the time in the media there is no mention of warrants for arrest/search before served, they are kept secret its illegal to leak to such things. Even for traffic tickets etc. it gives time for escape, destruction of evidence, and skull duggery. So why are you ignoring the blatant facts of an attempted coverup?

You claim these are facts. I disagree. It might be true that this is the typical method, but again it's irrelevant. You have zero evidence of a coverup.

What am I missing?

Everything

You go into a long set of your opinions beliefs that have nothing to do with the facts of the case. You then try to create an alternate history.

You clearly don't even grasp the idea of what happened. According to the Official story and the official agencies NY ACS and the original texting scandal beat the Feds by 22 days....that is a lot of damn time for casually 2 ACS workers and NYPD aren't too unfamiliar with each other. Also considering all the evidence showing pre-July cause for investigating Weiner are so sure the "Women" didn't contact authorities before then?

This alternate history says nothing about how Law enforcement got Weiner's laptop. It seems to me you don't wish to actually engage in the facts of the case.

When the sexting with the underage girl broke. Weiner had his laptop. NYPD didn't have it. ACS didn't have it. Weiner turned it over the Granite. The FBI got it from Granite. You are trying to wish these facts away.

Also considering all the evidence showing pre-July cause for investigating Weiner are so sure the "Women" didn't contact authorities before then?

This is irrelevant. Sexting with Women is not criminal. Sexting with the girl was. It doesn't matter what evidence existed before hand we know when the warrant was signed and how the FBI got the laptop.

urbanmoving ago

Youa re a dumb freak show that hasn't the clue about local distinction or chain of custody Fed warrants are routinely executed and Local Leos the ones doing the primary arrest/search. Local authorities because of a pre-existing investigation can push for priority over evidence....You do know that right? You clearly don't have a fucking clue as to what could/can happen with the "official storyline" which I never bough before and know after seeing this new injection don't buy at all....

So the only options are.

  1. Staged Play.
  2. Massive Obstruction of Justice and Cover Up(probably to avail- the system is blackmailed thank God).
  3. Your bitch and all the people you lie for are fucked.

Those 3 options, take your pick

Are_we__sure ago

Have fun storming the castle with all your Dunning Kruger friends.

urbanmoving ago

Have fun ignoring all the facts I provided based on MSM that shows NYPD still having the capability of knowledge of possession of the laptop, under a covert operation way before ACS in August, during that, leading up to the Daily mail article, the blow up in the media, and while Granite intel had it with its many ex NYPD/FBI/etc. contractors prowling around :) You clearly haven't done any investigation into this are left holding a big bag of shit. Robert J Strang, Granite, Stone, Key...hmmmm Giuliani giving Strang's PI firm the same attributes and motto of GRANITE when Granite was made. Seems to be a pattern. Funny former TWA 800 cover-upper FBI jackass is telegraphing Giuliani being involved in the Clinton FBI email stuff considering it all relates....hmmmm interesting. Considering the facts...you just got btfo AWS.....and its because you are incompetent.

Are_we__sure ago

You are making things up.

NYPD did not have possession of the laptop.

A covert operation? Are you on medication?

You're a disaster.

urbanmoving ago

You have no evidence to prove that, Also little cowardly liar NYPD more than likely executed the federal warrant with the FBI as is protocol in damn near all federal search warrants...You clearly are unintelligent and have no grasp of fact or timelines....The fact is as claimed there was a pre done counter intel op on weiner, Could have gone back to July and done hush hush or during the ACS investigation as is common(parellel construction) also the fact the devices were handed over to Strang's cre at granite either means something bad or something good. IMS has a shit ton of NYPD/FBI/and leos/military they have contracted with for decades, GI is a front for IMS I proved that conclusively in the article. "Mueller" owns Decision LLC Bloomberg admits Strang is the Head of Office at Decision, Mueller is listed as working for Strang Hayes consulting. My article is fatc based unlike your crazy unintelligent rambling.

I exhaustively search for a confirmation photo on Muelelr found none, Strang is most like Mueller, SH=IMS=Decision=Granite Intel. Thats what I discovered...You and your lies are fucked up one way or the other. Hell even Strang's employees one way or the other could have 180'd and given NYPD the devices...remaining the storyline or copies or whatever. Fact is you have no clue what occurred and are constantly sperging crapping out false information that a 5 year old would laugh at...claiming NYPD never had contact with the copies, devices, is absurd the same media that never reported on Granite's role until now could have very well buried revealing details of the story for obvious reasons. You got mega owned shill, totally owned....IMS/Decision/Gi are the same thing and I have found nothing showing anyone claiming other than the heads to have worked for GI, no employees EVER no resumes nothing, its a front for IMS...and its fucking hysterical. Strang did this with the medellin cartel luring them to NYC to arrest them. Same hand and glove mo, You are fucked AWS.

Are_we__sure ago

You never reveal yourself more than when you do here

You clearly are unintelligent and have no grasp of fact or timelines.

Even folks on this board who hate me give me props.

You're outside of your depth as shown here when you misstate facts and misuse terms you don't fully understand.

The fact is as claimed there was a pre done counter intel op on weiner

Are you going to claim there was ratline on Weiner? Was it a stage play.

(parellel construction)

Oh Lord. Yeah, Child Services is running counter intel ops to provide parallel contruction OMG.

Your writing gets more illegible the more worked up you get.

I get it, you still want to believe Santa Clause is real. I get it.

urbanmoving ago

Keep spewing lies I discredited all of them, you claim NYPD wasn't apart of the investigation with no evidence, you clearly don't understand even the feinest hint of the story

WEINER SECRET "INSURANCE" SEXTING GOV OH GOD NO WEINER IS AT IT AGAIN SLAP ON THE WRIST TIME GI WIPE THIS BUT NOT THAT ENCRYPTED SHIT(POSSIBLE) NYPD SVU WE CAN'T FIND OH WAIT OH MY GOD NOOOOO FBI GIVE US THAT WE GOTTA COVER THIS UP

See story fits nciely and you have no evidence to back up your lies that local leo's aren't the primary executers of fed warrants, in fact they are and have to in some cases approve the sending up of prosecution, hence many people going through state charges then going to Fed court which I know many otg examples of, you are a moron of ZERO credibility and have showed at best you have no life experience, no understanding of the judicial/leo system(you can't even watch law and order can you the topics I jsut discussed are themed often on the show)...you are a waste of time and shoud now go and place an ice pack on your ass. You just got btfo AGAIN