Honeybee confirms in evidence, Laptop of Weiner given to Granite, never in NYPD's keeping (pizzagate)

submitted ago by MolochHunter

so we can all put that expectation to bed, finally, for ever, seriously.

https://twitter.com/TheHoneybee_/status/997760278187073536

(relevance to pizzagate for newbies, Eric Prince claimed that NYPD had weiners laptop and that it had an 'insurance' folder of dirt on Hillary / Huma Abedin that horrified NYPD staff)

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migratorypatterns ago

Sorry got interrupted. So my other comment confirmed that Weiner turned his iphone, laptop, etc. over to Granite on September 23, 2016. Then on September 26, 2016, the FBI seized possession. That's when Clinton's emails were discovered. Now this is where i'm confused about Honeybee's claim.

The NYPD was investigating the sexting claim. To investigate, they HAD to have at least a partial viewing of said evidence. We know they did because charges were brought against Weiner, and he was sentenced to two years in prison. So the NYPD HAD to have had access to some part of the electronic material. Here's proof of that assertion:

https://nypost.com/2016/09/22/nypd-investigating-weiners-sexting-relationship-with-teen/

By Rebecca Rosenberg, Jamie Schram, Tina Moore and Shawn Cohen

NYPD investigating Weiner’s sexting relationship with teen September 22, 2016

Prosecutors in US Attorney Preet Bharara’s office have issued a subpoena for Anthony Weiner’s cell phone and other records, law enforcement sources said.

NYPD detectives and the Manhattan DA’s office are also “looking into” allegations that Anthony Weiner engaged in a months-long sexting relationship with an underage girl, sources told The Post Thursday.

The NYPD’s Special Victims Unit is investigating the matter after a 15-year-old high-school student released a trove of sick texts and photos she allegedly received from the disgraced politician.

“We’re looking to see if a crime was committed in New York and if there’s a complainant,” an NYPD official said.

Again, this story was on September 22, 2016. The FBI seized the electronics on September 23. There was a trial, there was evidence presented, so the NYPD HAD to have seen something and been in possession of files.

Now the unsourced comment of an NYPD officer who viewed the files is unconfirmed. That's up-in-the-air as far as it being truthful, but the story of NYPD having viewed files is true. There has to be discovery and an evidenciary listing so perhaps that would tell what was recorded in the trial, but whether there were other things not pertinent to the case that were viewed, we don't know.

I tend to think the FBI seizure was a way of keeping a lid on the investigation, and why the records were sealed in the first place. Clinton's emails may have been Confidential and, therefore, not to be disseminated to anyone without clearance to view. It's why Comey reopened the email probe.

I'm still not clear as to why anyone would think the NYPD did not have the evidence in their possession. No, they didn't have the laptop because of the complications, but a viewing of the subpoena might help nail down what was turned over.

Are_we_sure ago

The NYPD was investigating the sexting claim. To investigate, they HAD to have at least a partial viewing of said evidence.

You are making an assumption here. This is not a fact. Lawyers call this "Assuming facts not in evidence."

You are doing the same thing here

There was a trial, there was evidence presented, so the NYPD HAD to have seen something and been in possession of files.

In fact, in this case, you seem to be drawing an usupported conclusion. First to start with Weiner did not have a trial. He plead guilty before a trial. He plead guilty in May and was sentence in September without a trial. Secondly, he plead guilty to federal charges and was sentence in federal court. The NYPD would not be involved here. He has never been charged with local crimes that would involve the NYPD. So all we know is the NYPD opened an investigation. That investigation could be open or that investigation can have been closed when he pled guilty in federal court.

That's up-in-the-air as far as it being truthful, but the story of NYPD having viewed files is true.

Again this here is unsupported.

I'm still not clear as to why anyone would think the NYPD did not have the evidence in their possession.

There's simply no independent evidence that points to it. There's just these claims of the FBI ripped the case and the laptop away from the NYPD. We know now those claims to be false.

Since many of these assumptions are unsupported, let's lay out what we do know.

The NYPD opened an investigation. The FBI got the laptop. The NYPD was investigating the sexting claim. To investigate, they HAD to have at least a partial viewing of said evidence. For the NYPD to view the evidence they would have to make a request to the FBI Shortly after the FBI got Weiner's laptop, they realized it would also apply to the Clinton case.
The FBI eventually got a warrant to read the Clinton emails.
An intensive effort was made to review the emails before the election.

Is there any other known evidence that is missing from this?

Conclusions/Questions

Could the FBI have allowed NYPD to view the evidence? Certainly possible. I think the NYPD would need a warrant. Otherwise they would not be entitled. If we find the NYPD had a warrant, that would be

Could have the FBI have given the laptop to the NYPD? I doubt this. I think they would have kept possession and let the NYPD review evidence.

Another possibility that is less secure would be they let make a disk image give the image to NYPD. I think if many people were reviewing evidence on the laptop and we know they were with the emails, they can't all be working on the same laptop. I think they would have loaded an image on to a secure network and had many people review at the same time.

I would also think this secure access would be READ ONLY. No editing or copying or saving locally. This is my assumption.

But in all this scenarios, I see nothing that supports the Erik Prince TruePundit versions.

So far I have seen no evidence the NYPD ever saw any contents of the laptop, in a secure setting or not. However, when the guilty plea was announced, the justice department said

We work every day in the FBI and law enforcement to stop adults from preying on vulnerable children. Our partnership with the NYPD cannot be stressed enough in this case, and we would like to thank the Special Victims Unit for all the work and effort they put into this investigation.”

But what that work or effort was is unclear.

urbanmoving ago

Are we sure get your timeline right bud

Are_we_sure ago

What am I missing?

Point out something that is missing an indicate if we know it to be true or we think it to be true. If we know it to be true, show the evidence. If we think it to be true, explain why.

urbanmoving ago

Everything and also you claim that Local authorities don't execute federal search warrants, they can and do...even arrests in fact the feds are so lazy, stupid, and corrupt they aren't capable of doing anything real arrests...the can only stage fake ones aka perp walks. Also search warrants subpeona's etc. in an NYPD/SVU investigation in NYC because of confidentially aren't broadcasted out there....but with the Feds because of leaks always right before at the time information was coming out. You clearly don't even grasp the idea of what happened. According to the Official story and the official agencies NY ACS and the original texting scandal beat the Feds by 22 days....that is a lot of damn time for casually 2 ACS workers and NYPD aren't too unfamiliar with each other. Also considering all the evidence showing pre-July cause for investigating Weiner are so sure the "Women" didn't contact authorities before then?

Are_we__sure ago

Putting a few replies together in one place

NYPD executes Federal search warrants all the time with the feebies, its "task forcing"

Do you really think seized a phone, a tablet and laptop requires a task force? You can't really be making this argument can you? Also you are merely engaging in a hypothetical without providing evidence. The evidence is the FBI executed the search warrant.

Why did you post the PDF about Michael Cohen? Is there something there you want me to look at?

One if Weiner was so compliant with a subpeona and not afraid/acting through whatever why was there a warrant needed?(You can forego that)

There could be a few reasons for this, but I would just be speculating. One might be they wanted to avoid the appearance of going easy on him. But in the end this is irrelevant. It doesn't matter one whit to the argument we are having, that it is now confirmed the NYPD did not get the laptop before the FBI. I'm arguing timing and possession, this is an attempt to argue how it happened. How it happened is irrelevant to this discussion.

Also typically a warrant is served cold first, witnesses are subpeona'd/ Subpeona's come last. Most people and 99.9% of the time in the media there is no mention of warrants for arrest/search before served, they are kept secret its illegal to leak to such things. Even for traffic tickets etc. it gives time for escape, destruction of evidence, and skull duggery. So why are you ignoring the blatant facts of an attempted coverup?

You claim these are facts. I disagree. It might be true that this is the typical method, but again it's irrelevant. You have zero evidence of a coverup.

What am I missing?

Everything

You go into a long set of your opinions beliefs that have nothing to do with the facts of the case. You then try to create an alternate history.

You clearly don't even grasp the idea of what happened. According to the Official story and the official agencies NY ACS and the original texting scandal beat the Feds by 22 days....that is a lot of damn time for casually 2 ACS workers and NYPD aren't too unfamiliar with each other. Also considering all the evidence showing pre-July cause for investigating Weiner are so sure the "Women" didn't contact authorities before then?

This alternate history says nothing about how Law enforcement got Weiner's laptop. It seems to me you don't wish to actually engage in the facts of the case.

When the sexting with the underage girl broke. Weiner had his laptop. NYPD didn't have it. ACS didn't have it. Weiner turned it over the Granite. The FBI got it from Granite. You are trying to wish these facts away.

Also considering all the evidence showing pre-July cause for investigating Weiner are so sure the "Women" didn't contact authorities before then?

This is irrelevant. Sexting with Women is not criminal. Sexting with the girl was. It doesn't matter what evidence existed before hand we know when the warrant was signed and how the FBI got the laptop.

urbanmoving ago

https://steemit.com/clinton/@urbanmoving/anthony-weiner-s-labtop-phone-electronic-devices-and-granite-intelligence

Amazing in one day I BTFO your entire shill career so hard...Cryptic comments Giuliani being behind this etc....all the way through this shit. One way or another liars like you have a megaton to answer for.