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GreenDell144 ago

Heavy.

The article posted more or less repeats these from a year ago: https://nltimes.nl/2017/11/28/dutch-foundation-gets-dozens-sexual-abuse-reports-jehovahs-witnesses

https://nltimes.nl/2017/07/21/jehovahs-witnesses-paradise-pedophiles-

It is helpful for us to know the ways various organizations direct their policies in regards to reporting this crime. Most organizations (religious, or otherwise) had fairly draconian policies for years. Since the 90s tho, many more popular organizations have adjusted their policies for zero-tolerance and transparency. JW’s did this in the 90’s too. I found the JW policy repeated in their magazines and on their website:

(For sexual abuse) What can you do? .....call the police

and it’s been that way since the 90s.

There is some contention about the “two witnesses to an accusation” rule, for confronting a believer that is doing bad. They also apply that when there are disputes between each other, to avoid taking sides when situations are unclear. It seems the rule is being misapplied in some congregations to shield offenders from victim’s accusations. Bad.

The second article states that the elders in the Netherlands don’t want to embarrass themselves with these crime reports... to keep things quiet, totally against what their HQ says. The organization makes it clear that they scripturally follow the law and respect authorities. It seems the Netherlands congregations and perhaps some local groups don’t agree with this. There should be consequences, IMO.

Cc1914 ago

We can't lump all JW together just like we can't lump all the mainstream christians , Catholics etc together . There are bad seeds in every bunch and the truth is being revealed rapidly without bias. No religion will be able to hide what God already knows . Thanks for explaining the 2 person rule . It makes so much sense to me in order to be fair and not take sides verses going to a priest and confessing sins that for sure get hidden , because you basically pay the priest off to keep quiet . Think about it .. some charge you for prayers , healing etc and the sinner feels better because he feels forgiven.. then keeps doing the same sins over and over because he can pay for Gods forgiveness. This is how it seems to me anyways . This has been my experience.

tholinz ago

Confession is not a pay-to-play thing. I don’t know why you’d think that. No legitimate Christian organization charges its members to participate in services. The Catholic Church does not deny confession to anyone, especially not due to lack of donations.

You might be thinking of indulgences, but that shit’s been out pretty much since Martin Luther called them on it.

There are scam artists out there who might charge for things like this, but it’s just that; a scam.

Cc1914 ago

Right ! And just how do you or any other innocent Person tell the difference ?