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TurdLord5000 ago

You're a moron. Downvoat me Christfags.

GreenDell144 ago

I suppose you think satanism is cool.

TurdLord5000 ago

Satanism is mostly a juvenile lashing out at Christian authority, usually well deserved. Has jack-all to do with the elites.

GreenDell144 ago

Spend a year being recruited by Freemasons and you may be inclined to disagree (however, that is the ‘ Luciferian’ flavor). Read Dave McGowan “Laurel Canyon Days” or google Michael Aquino or Theosophy.

TurdLord5000 ago

Not finding anything by David McGowan with that title. I am familiar with The Temple of Set and Theosophy. Not quite getting the point you're trying to make.

GreenDell144 ago

I was referring to this story:

http://www.conspirazzi.com/e-books/inside-the-lc.pdf

It is a blog, later compiled into a book. I guess I got the title wrong... Oops. It shows a history of military/occult/elite connections between stars and crimes in the hollywood area, going back to black dahlia. I have found about 85-90% of it to be independently verifiable or corroborate-able. Some is anecdotal from interviews.

I apologize for my flippant tone; my point is that elites are involved in all of the things I mentioned, and none of it is just "juvenile lashing out". There are real victims and big, wealthy institutions involved.

TurdLord5000 ago

I'll give it a read, thanks for the update.

My real point I've been working to formulate is that Satanism and Luciferianism are tossed around by the pizzagate community without context, and my concern is that this is a deep oversimplification. Are some the elites invoved in Lovecraft-style occult practices dealing with very real and malevolent forces? I have no doubt in my mind of that. Are all occultists involved in malevolent practices? Absolutely not. Then you have the Spirit Cooking crowd who just want something fucked up to partipate in so they can feel edgy; if Spirit Cooking contains any actual occult element, which I highly doubt, then it is lost on the likes of participants such as Podesta and Hillary who would be too stupid to even grasp the concepts involved.

I understand that from a literalist Christian perspective, all of the above would fall into the category of Satanism, but the complexities of the matter make the use of Satanism and Luciferianism as catch-all terms completely ineffective; and severely limit the quality of information that is being transmitted. Every time I hear those terms tossed around I get angry, because they are disguising a complex matter in simplistic terms, and thus diluting the conversation with what might as well be pure disinformation (well intentioned, I agree)

GreenDell144 ago

I appreciate your point...

I have been involved with wiccans, masons, metal headed satanists, ouija boards, tarot cards, ghost hunting... all kinds of weird stuff. Mostly, it’s just mumbo jumbo and assuredly harmless curiosity. But, on more than one occasion, truly messed up and evil things were around.

So, with my experience, I assert that the supernatural is real. That’s a shocking claim, I know. The ghost hunting...is fake. The tarot cards? I can’t explain how I got them to work. I AM a scientist. I need rational explanations and evidence. When the supernatural is involved, it is not possible to prove a negative. It always comes down to something the individual experiences, and no one else was around... of course, whenever spoken of hearers respond with “yeah.... right”. And so it goes.

As to your astute assertion:

Low level rockers, teenage rebel satanists, Wiccan hippie girls.... appearing harmless and stupid is something that they use in their favor. They are not the focus of our investigation, but you will find in many cases that they have pedo groomers in their ranks. Their leadership may run a stable... and the hierarchy still hypnotizes the lower echelons with sensational promises of power and such.

The big names in our investigation are exactly as you described: a Luciferian cult. They consider the selves high priests, demigods and more. Crazy. I was considering joining Masonry. I had a couple of sponsors. It looked like a great path to success, better than 3 more years of college. I am SOOO glad I took the time to check it out thoroughly.

TurdLord5000 ago

All of your points are appreciated. I am 100% certain of the existence of the supernatural, and mostly subscribe to the vague yet ominous determinations made by John Keel in his works. I just never met anyone calling themselves a Luciferian who considered their philosophy much more than a spiritualized version of Libertarianism, and though i don't use the phrase, I would consider myself a Luciferian in that context. I do need to read more on the subject, granted.

urbanmoving ago

And a faggot exposes himself, amazing such a queer person attacks the one thing that 100% condemns homosexual behaviour in such a convuluted way