Backpage provided the most effective way of both rescuing victims and arresting pedos. Taking the site down and charging the founders for actions of their users is just feel-good bullshit that doesn't help anybody. It's effectively society saying "i don't want to see this" and turning their head away and celebrating the arrest of web developers. The children will still get sold. Now you won't be able to see it or do anything to help. But, high-five! we won!
SESTA/FOSTA was a disaster for getting rid of section 230 which already had teeth to take down people who knowingly aided sex traffickers. Now anybody can be charged for the illegal actions of their users whether they know it's happening or not.
Oh look it's you again. I'll just copy/paste my reply from the other thread:
ok let's look at the Senate report
Second, Backpage knows that it facilitates prostitution and child sex trafficking. In addition to the evidence of systematic editing described above, additional evidence shows that Backpage is aware that its website facilitates prostitution and child sex trafficking.
ok, words were edited and they seem to be aware users use their site for child trafficking. Was it by manual edits or was it their filter?
Ferrer told Padilla in a November 17, 2010 email that the word “Lolita” “is code for under aged girl [sic].”138 A similar understanding led Ferrer to add the words “daddy” and “little girl” to the Strip Term From Ad filter.
Oh, it was their auto-filter. Makes sense if you don't want ads for kids on your site.
And what is the evidence Backpage was aware their site was being used for children in the report?
The Subcommittee’s investigation reveals that Backpage clearly understands that a substantial amount of child sex trafficking takes place on its website. Backpage itself reports cases of suspected child exploitation to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children; in some months Backpage has transmitted hundreds of such reports to NCMEC.
Oh. They know backpage knew, because backpage would willingly report their findings to NCMEC whenever they found child victims.
But, of course, the general public reported kids, too.
Backpage is involved in 73% of all child trafficking reports that the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) receives from the general public
So... they're saying 73% of all children reported to the NCMEC are thanks to the site backpage. Doesn't that mean they made finding trafficked children a lot easier?
Last year, NCMEC reported an 846% increase from 2010 to 2015 in reports of suspected child sex trafficking—an increase the organization has found to be “directly correlated to the increased use of the Internet to sell children for sex.”
So they seem upset by additional 'reports' of sex trafficking. Is that because they prefer a world where child sex trafficking goes unreported?
As unsavory as it is to hear about this abuse, it is necessary if you are actually aiming to end it. All they've proven is that reports of trafficking have increased, not the trafficking itself. That just means it's more transparent, not more prevalent.
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banusaur ago
Backpage provided the most effective way of both rescuing victims and arresting pedos. Taking the site down and charging the founders for actions of their users is just feel-good bullshit that doesn't help anybody. It's effectively society saying "i don't want to see this" and turning their head away and celebrating the arrest of web developers. The children will still get sold. Now you won't be able to see it or do anything to help. But, high-five! we won!
SESTA/FOSTA was a disaster for getting rid of section 230 which already had teeth to take down people who knowingly aided sex traffickers. Now anybody can be charged for the illegal actions of their users whether they know it's happening or not.
sore_ass_losers ago
No, Backpage had an automatic filter to kick out terms that implied the girl was underage, before the moderators even looked at the ad.
This is complicity. They actively enabled child prostitution.
See my comment https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2498285/12478797
or my source https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/04/15/emails-reveal-how-backpage-edited-sex-ads-will-it-be-its-undoing/100436762/
These fuckers aren't just 'web developers'.
ridleychozo ago
Oh look it's you again. I'll just copy/paste my reply from the other thread:
ok let's look at the Senate report
ok, words were edited and they seem to be aware users use their site for child trafficking. Was it by manual edits or was it their filter?
Oh, it was their auto-filter. Makes sense if you don't want ads for kids on your site.
And what is the evidence Backpage was aware their site was being used for children in the report?
Oh. They know backpage knew, because backpage would willingly report their findings to NCMEC whenever they found child victims.
But, of course, the general public reported kids, too.
So... they're saying 73% of all children reported to the NCMEC are thanks to the site backpage. Doesn't that mean they made finding trafficked children a lot easier?
So they seem upset by additional 'reports' of sex trafficking. Is that because they prefer a world where child sex trafficking goes unreported?
As unsavory as it is to hear about this abuse, it is necessary if you are actually aiming to end it. All they've proven is that reports of trafficking have increased, not the trafficking itself. That just means it's more transparent, not more prevalent.
sore_ass_losers ago
"Oh look it's you again." I was replying to someone else, dickhead.
I already replied to your points and won't cut and paste them here.
ridleychozo ago
Sorry, yes I was being a dickhead.
sore_ass_losers ago
Oh, okay. Sorry about telling you to 'fuck off' elsewhere. I think we'll have to 'agree to disagree' on some of this.
ridleychozo ago
No worries. This subject is extremely stressful to discuss in a civil way. I go batshit on people all the time just trying to discuss pizzagate.