Scotland Yard abandons policy of automatically BELIEVING rape complainants even though women rarely lie about this crime. Hampstead children were not believed either when they reported their abuse. (pizzagate)

submitted ago by letsdothis1

So the further abandonment of victims of sexual abuse crimes continues [The relevance to pizzagate is that this applies to children too.] : Scotland Yard abandons policy of automatically BELIEVING rape complainants as commissioner Cressida Dick says 'a clumsy misunderstanding is no police matter'

Scotland Yard is to abandon its policy of automatically believing victims as commissioner Cressida Dick said 'clumsy behaviour between somebody who fancies somebody else' was not a matter for police.

'Our default position is we are, of course, likely to believe you but we are investigators and we have to investigate.'

Isn't that what they are supposed to do anyway?

Guidelines that instructed officers to believe alleged victims automatically were put in place following revelations in 2011 that abuse accusations – including those made against Jimmy Savile – had not been properly investigated.

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A spokeswoman from the Met Police confirmed there were a number of reviews into the force's practices that were ongoing.

Last week Miss Dick warned that social media posts using abusive language were driving children to commit violent crimes 'within minutes'.

It seems that the police intend to spend more time monitoring social media instead.

False rape allegations are rare – rape is not. Stop using the case of Jemma Beale to discredit all women https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jemma-beale-woman-lie-about-rape-ten-years-in-prison-not-all-woman-liars-not-all-men-rapists-a7912766.html

A FOI request made about the police investigation of the Hampstead case: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/review_of_hampstead_christ_churc

I would like to know whether it is within a police offers jurisdiction to speak with a witness in a non professional capacity about a sexual abuse case, without it being recorded and without other officers being present?

I would further like to know whether interviewing officers are trained on how to conduct themselves with regards to body language when interviewing a potential rape victim.

The Father Of The Hampstead, Christ Church attending children in this case, has several businesses set up, which include high ranking members of The Church of England and MET Police. Surely this impedes on justice, considering the interviewing officer was from the MET police himself and also, The Church Of England also lay at the heart of this case, please review the following correspondence with the ecclesiastical society. I would also like to know whether retractions are considered valid where two potential rape victims retracted testimony is not corroborative, whereas their original testimony was.

I would lastly like to know whether it is lawful for an officer to explicitly and knowingly lead a witness into reasoning that they themselves have not brought up first of all.

..Please further review why one Ricky Dearman was erasing internet records of his business, located at 88-90 Hatton Gardens, prior to "The Diamond Heist" which occurred there, wherein the thieves uncovered child pornography involving MPs?

urbanmoving ago

Whoa whoa lying about rape to cover up or smear someone is a common feminsit dystopia tactic nowadays, nothign should ever be automatically believed but researched however children making accusations and the facts support the Hampstead kids who were telling the truth

Narcissism ago

I am getting so tired of listening to the victim mentality. The police and politicians are part of the problem. People should take matters into their own hands women should always carry spray, or concealed carry in the US. And kids should be taught to stop accommodating abusers and learn repelling technics. Its the only way forward!

letsdothis1 ago

Except in the UK it's even illegal for women to carry spray.

Narcissism ago

The Pedos make the laws so you can't defend yourself.. F@uk that!

DTresonate ago

Do they want migrants to rape the natives because they are not having kids themselves? It seams like it.

bungled ago

The hampstead children were fake. Please stop talking about them. Here's a podcast about their stepfather who coached them on how to make up the abuse story.

http://swordandscale.com/sword-and-scale-episode-51/

think- ago

The children are legit imo, but all adults connected to this case are fishy.

letsdothis1 ago

I was much closer to the Hampstead case than your podcast broadcaster. The simple answer that the children's stepfather was responsible for a case that had the British intelligence services swarming all over it was/is nonsensical. The podcaster left out many, many elements of the story. Starting with the 'British banker' who picked up his bride in Russia in the first place.

Whether you believe the story or not, one thing it started to expose to Joe Public is how child trafficking works. If you believe that this case was a psyop, then the question is, why? One thing for sure, this was not an ordinary 'divorce gone bad' situation.

Shizy ago

Except they weren't fake.

EffYouJohnPodesta ago

Thank you. There are some creeps on Twitter who were specifically writing to me to try to convince me that the whole story was fake also. As though I am supposed to be able to vet criminal cases in another country from the internet. Give me a break. I believe them though.

Kekalicious ago

They are Tavistock property now. Nothing to see here folks, now move along. And the sweet, sweet joys of demon faced crotch tattoos, baby skin shoes, and orgy/sacrifices at Micky D'ees.

Blacksmith21 ago

I'm sure the rapists were behind the "women lie about rape" movement(s). We're gonna be unpacking history for decades to come.

Won't that be some shit? Hollywood will be replaced by indie historical docudramas based on story lines re truth coming out for the unforeseeable future. An entire new media, medium, mindset could supplant the shit that Hollywood pumps out. All of their evil will be counteracted by history-based entertainment.

  • The Podesta House
  • HIllary's Basement
  • Hillary and Huma
  • Pizza for Everyone
  • Connecticut Avenue NW
  • The Pedo Spies
  • Brownstone
  • Jeffrey's Fantasy Island

The series, movie, drama, doc, etc. list is endless. And that's just Pizzagate threads. Truth is stranger than fiction.

Think about that for a second (I hate that NLP trick, but it works) -

carmencita ago

Michael Seed is accused of being 'Basil the Ghost', the only burglar who evaded capture following the notorious £25million raid over the Easter weekend of 2015.He was arrested on Tuesday at a run-down council flat less than two miles from Hatton Garden vault with what is alleged to be property from the burglary.

Police say they found a large amount of jewellery, precious stones and gold ingots.

Seed's aunt Kathleen Seed last night questioned whether he was involved in the raid. She told The Times: 'The idea of him being a safebreaker is outlandish.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5561657/Hatton-Garden-mastermind-son-genius-Cambridge-biophysicist.html This raises a lot of questions. Is he really the mastermind of the Heist or is this another case of them pinning a crime on an innocent person and another cover up to save the elites. All arrested, now. No need for further investigations or discussion.

think- ago

why one Ricky Dearman was erasing internet records of his business, located at 88-90 Hatton Gardens, prior to "The Diamond Heist" which occurred there, wherein the thieves uncovered child pornography involving MPs?

Somehow I've missed this story - what happened to the MPs? Was there an investigation?

letsdothis1 ago

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3404388/Hatton-Garden-ringleader-photos-Tory-MP-abusing-children-1971-Baker-Street-raid-left-police-discover-took-no-action.html

The ringleader of the £14million Hatton Garden heist reportedly found pictures of a Tory MP abusing children 45 years ago and left them for the police to discover.

Following the raid, the Government at the time allegedly banned the media from reporting on the burglary for 'national security' reasons, due to fears raunchy photos of the late Princess Margaret had been found in one of the safety deposit boxes.

The latest accusations come at when historic high profile child sex abuse allegations are being investigated.

Labour peer Lord Janner died before he was due to face trial and Liberal Democrat MP Cyril Smith passed away before it was revealed he was a paedophile.

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse has been made aware of the latest claims and in November last year Judge Goddard said it will consider 'allegations of cover-up and conspiracy'.

Narcissism ago

There is a movie called The Bank that depicts the so called heist. In reality security services faked the robbery as a cover to steal the Princess Michael photos from the blackmailer (Michael X) not Malcolm. His death warrant was signed by the Queen and he was executed in the West Indies.

carmencita ago

This was a huge cover up of elites and royals or who knows else of committing heinous acts against children. Possibly the photos of P. Margaret where either her committing them or photos of her being defiled by someone. Also, possibly the photos would point fingers at Lord Mountbatten who was also spared before his death. This smacks of Watergate, which some say was a huge cover up of the same kind. Children are being raped and murdered for their sexual perverted cravings and they are getting off Scot Free.

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse has been made aware of the latest claims and in November last year Judge Goddard said it will consider 'allegations of cover-up and conspiracy'. THIS is another put off and scuttling of charges. Will Consider? WTH is that suppose to mean? Another Pass For The Elites.

think- ago

Thank you.

carmencita ago

Ooh, Thank you. I was hoping for a link! Revisiting old cases is always a good idea. Refreshing of the Mind.

think- ago

TY.

GeorgeT ago

Children never lie about the abuse, mature women - that's a whole different story.

EffYouJohnPodesta ago

The only women I know of who are lying about rape charges are the ones being paid to do so against political people. Aside from that, women have nothing to gain from lying about rape. Even leaving a non raping abuser is extremely dangerous without being around someone vicious enough to become a rapist. Speaking out is rare and most women aren't believed, so the only reason to speak out is if a certain amount of fear has been removed from the situation.

Shizy ago

What about Lena Dunham?

Or mattress girl?

Both seem mental Ill so maybe that's another angle to consider- mentally unstable women who make up stories for attention, sympathy, or whatever.

EffYouJohnPodesta ago

OK, well I guess a mentally ill person could make up a rape charge, but at the same time, being a victim of rape can be traumatic and the abuser will call you mentally ill to cover up the crime. Vicious and slippery slopes we have there. I do not know anything about mattress girl and I've only heard of Lena Dunham but I don't know much about her besides that she's apparently not a very nice girl.

carmencita ago

Right, children never lie about abuse, we don't need to hear your put down of abused women.

Scablifter ago

Here we go, disagree with me and you are insulting abused women. Congratulations, a win win assumption.

letsdothis1 ago

Well, whatever you think about mature women, this forum is concerned about children. I know that the police know that children do not lie about abuse.

derram ago

https://archive.fo/Om5QJ :

Met abandons policy of automatically believing rape complainants | Daily Mail Online

https://archive.fo/CCbLX :

False rape allegations are rare – rape is not. Stop using the case of Jemma Beale to discredit all women | The Independent

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