I feel the stories are distancing Seagrams from NXIVM. Edgar Bronfman Sr. said it was a cult and wasn't happy with his heiresses being involved. There's some sort of vague commodity war story I've heard, involving Raniere ripping off Bronfman (?)
And yet NXIVM was said to employ a famous private eye Aviv who claimed to be Mossad. Also at one point I heard they had the FBI threatening someone also. (Could be Mossad/FBI professional courtesy :).
So I've wondered about this issue, was this group associated with some Bronfman project or just getting money off the heiresses?
Bronfman is also connected to mind control and Esalen. Remember the Unicorn murderer Ira Einhorn. The Bronfmans protected him when he escaped. It's a big rabbit hole.
Well if it goes deep enough I believe Seagrams could be involved, and there is mob control on both sides with US and Israel and of course Italy etc. We just will have to wait and see what else turns up.
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carmencita ago
Liquor companies, including Seagram's are all Mob controlled. If Seagram's is in any way involved this is going to get really nasty.
sore_ass_losers ago
I feel the stories are distancing Seagrams from NXIVM. Edgar Bronfman Sr. said it was a cult and wasn't happy with his heiresses being involved. There's some sort of vague commodity war story I've heard, involving Raniere ripping off Bronfman (?)
And yet NXIVM was said to employ a famous private eye Aviv who claimed to be Mossad. Also at one point I heard they had the FBI threatening someone also. (Could be Mossad/FBI professional courtesy :).
So I've wondered about this issue, was this group associated with some Bronfman project or just getting money off the heiresses?
Qwerty72 ago
Bronfman is also connected to mind control and Esalen. Remember the Unicorn murderer Ira Einhorn. The Bronfmans protected him when he escaped. It's a big rabbit hole.
carmencita ago
Well if it goes deep enough I believe Seagrams could be involved, and there is mob control on both sides with US and Israel and of course Italy etc. We just will have to wait and see what else turns up.