GreenDell144 ago

Wikileaks can use the material in journalistic, educational and critiquing purposes and not worry about exposure in a lawsuit (I think).

If assange wants to start a nutty brainwashing gol digger cult, he might be in trouble for copyrights, tho.

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

Hubbard was a fat old sot. Enjoy hell you old bastard. Fun fact: some people think David Miscavige murdered Hubbard. As an aside, y'all need to be watching Leah Remini's show I Scientology, she is a WARRIOR QUEEN! 😁 And yes. Scientology is full of pedos. It's the perfect environment for them.

GreenDell144 ago

She is heroic and outstandingly savage against scientology. She has a good interview with Joe Rogan

JayB435 ago

Don't remember THAT psalm.

"Thou Shall Be A Creep And Be Persecuted For It"

Laskar ago

Just remember that Hubbard was a failed science fiction writer--a dubious distinction if ever there was one.

He really liked Aleister Crowley (MI6 agent 666) and his invented Satanism project. But Crowley actually said of Hubbard (to Jack Parsons) that he was "the most evil person I have ever met"

Here's more on Hubbard: In a 1983 Penthouse magazine interview, L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. (who later changed his name to Ron DeWolf) stated:

“I believed in Satanism. There was no other religion in the house! Scientology and black magic. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology — and it is probably the only part of Scientology that really works. Also, you’ve got to realize that my father did not worship Satan. He thought he was Satan. He was one with Satan.”

angelafogo ago

From all the data gathered Hubbard seems to never have met Crowley personally. Do you have a source?

Kekalicious ago

https://io9.gizmodo.com/5978746/the-strangely-true-connection-between-scientology-the-jet-propulsion-lab-and-pagan-sorcery Crowley called them "Goats" Hubbard would chant and invoke the spirits while Parsons and Cameron had sex. The men believed they were summoning spirits and lightning with their incredible potency and sorcery, though Crowley was so disgusted by their antics that he called them "goats" in a letter. Eventually Cameron did become pregnant, but instead of spawning Satan, she decided to have an abortion.

GreenDell144 ago

I have read it before, as well. I'll keep my eyes open, in case I see something like that again...

Laskar ago

I wish I could provide you with the original link, which has been remove by TPTB. I read it in the course of doing research on Jack Parsons actually.

angelafogo ago

Can anybody explain why this voat post states 15 upvoats when seeing it in the search list but when i click it it just states 1 upvoat? Thank you

carmencita ago

Angela, did you go back into your post and edit it after you submitted it?

angelafogo ago

I did! i added further links

carmencita ago

That will do it. I almost did it on my last post about the Mom and Dentist. Whew!

think- ago

Hi Angela, sorry about the troubles with upvoats and views.

We've been experiencing them for two weeks now:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2444026

The admins uploaded new code, which seems to have caused the bug. We've been told they're working on the problem, but unfortunately, this seems to take longer than expected. :-/

Apologies!

angelafogo ago

Thank you

think- ago

You're welcome. :-)

kestrel9 ago

http://archive.is/5qdLA The Total Freedom Trap: Scientology, Dianetics And L. Ron Hubbard by Jon Atack

Jon Atack, the author of this booklet, was a client of Scientology from 1974 to 1983. Since his resignation from the Church of Scientology, he has consulted to many leading newspapers and magazines, including the Sunday Times, Forbes magazine, Time, the Los Angeles Times and the Reader's Digest. In 1987, he was the main consultant to BBC TV's Panorama documentary. He has also consulted to TVS, Central TV, Granada TV, CBC, NBC, CBS and ABC.

Seeing the list of publications...looks like that battle over cult mentality was lost lol.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592414/The-book-Scientologists-kept-reading-27-years-Banned-biography-L-Ron-Hubbard-reveals-bizarre-sex-rituals-phony-war-record-racist-writings-church-founder.html

http://archive.is/7ATnE

migratorypatterns ago

This is why I object so strongly to the word "PEDOPHILE".

These creatures do not LOVE children; they HATE children.

I'm so offended that I can't even express how profoundly offended I am. I'm only surprised they didn't tarnish all revered figures with this brush.

GreenDell144 ago

I am super offended, too, but if there is one person who can and will set this straight, its Jesus. He's the Big Kahuna, IMO. If this bothers you and me, for sure it bothers him. Im convinced he will act soon, when his father gives the word.

Laskar ago

How about "pederast" or pervert?

migratorypatterns ago

Perv or scum.

I think scum has a nice ring to it, but then so does human waste.

Laskar ago

Agreed.

migratorypatterns ago

SCUM it is. :)

Laskar ago

True that.

tholinz ago

Hubbard was probably a Satanist (or possibly possessed, if you believe in that sort of thing), so his hatred of Christianity checks out. If you want another in-depth read on OTVIII there’s a good article here:

https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/24/up-the-bridge-we-finally-reach-ot-8-but-was-its-first-version-really-a-hoax/

The bigger issue is how much child abuse has been allowed to continue in Scientology. Hubbard references pedophilia a number of times in some of his writings. There’s certainly been a lot of evil perpetrated by this man and his ideas.

GreenDell144 ago

"The bigger issue is how much child abuse has been allowed to continue "

If Scientology is big in Hollywood, and satanism too...

And the casting couch, etc... I have a really bad feeling that we have NO IDEA how sick and depraved the reality is. Just my two cents...

angelafogo ago

I also believe he probably was possessed. I believe that every high hierarchy satanist is possessed. Their passage from level 9 to 11 i believe indicates the moment of posession.

carmencita ago

How they twist the words. YES Jesus was a lover of boys AND girls. He Loved All Children. But not in the way L Ron Hubbard wanted us to believe. This is how they twist the words to mean what they want. It's the normalizing they have done for decades and even centuries in their own brains. Scientology=Satanism

GreenDell144 ago

Also, the history of each part of the Bible, how the documents were codified, preserved, translated, copied and passed down to us over the years is quite miraculous. Considering all of the many campaigns to burn all Christian literature, and how it was illegal to own, translate or share the Bible for centuries... There is no room to say that something has been missing or excluded from the Bible. Almost all of the Bible writer's were ignored and mistreated in their times, too, debunking the idea that it was written by clever manipulators and designed to control people. The opposite is true: it has a challenge message, with a hard path to follow, but it doesnt shackle the mind, it liberates. From the moment that each part was written, a campaign of slander and censorship has been continually in place. Why? Because Satan attacks what is Holy. This is reason that, despite all worldy efforts to the contrary, the Bible is the most popular book in the world (by far), existing in more languages than any other writing. Its God's message to us. Nowhere in it does it even HINT that pedophilia is ok, nor that Jesus was into such a thing.

carmencita ago

They always try to twist the words. But this time, they have gone too far. Only pedophiles will believe it. Boy Love is what he means. We know what he is trying to do.

pizzaequalspedo ago

Yeah I’ve never cared for the term “boy lover”.

It’s a false paradigm that is used by sick narcissists who certainly do not love the boys they rape and abuse.

carmencita ago

Yes! And it has been written that pedos actually hate children. Why would you treat a child like that if you sincerely love them and not sexually. So we know what they Really mean, don't we. They are not fooling us.

kestrel9 ago

Regarding self identified Boy Lovers (pedophiles, activists): They equate their penis arousal as "true" love. They fantasize that "true" love as a real "relationship", like a stalker imagines a "relationship" with the victim of their obsession. They justify it by saying they would never hurt a child and that their 'sexual mentoring' prevents societal violence because boys are aggressive without the 'guidance' of 'true' Boy Lovers, who understand them best. (they believe every boy wants or would benefit from a sexual relationship with an adult male, whether it's a relative or just a kindly old 65 year old benefactor looking to help a boy in need).

A renowned Boy Lover activist, seeking to escape Nazi Germany, cruised the countryside with a band of children, (girls invited to attract boys), having free sex with each other at every stop. During his life he 'mentored' at least 800 boys according to his estimation, and he claimed to have left each one of them better off for it. Boy Lovers believe unenlightened parents are the problem in society and they seek to do away with age of consent and laws allowing parents to protect their children from old men who want to have sex with children. They recommend incest for father who are Boy Lovers with their sons (females are inconsequential to this philosophy, the claim is that females are different and that girls in general don't need sex with Boy Lovers like boys do).

carmencita ago

Brainwashing of their own minds. Yes, and Narcissism plays into this Sickness of the Mind. Mental Illness most definitely. The kind that can not be turned around. They of course believe they are in the right and we are all in the wrong. They only mean to help boys, for they will be better for it. The only ones that will be better for it is the Pedophiles. Boy Love should be changed to BOY LUST.

JesusRules ago

Sick Satanic fucks