Just a thought: We know, that many celebrities have been there. And Hawking was mingling with celebrities - and he was himself some kind of a "popstar".
Do I think he was a pedo? well, we know, everything is possible. But I also admit, it would surprise me.
The question is now, if really everyone who had been at Orgy-Island also was a pedo or pervert and took part in the sordid shenanigans - or if you also could spend a holiday there just enjoying sun and sea?
Maybe Epstein invited celebs to spend a holiday on his island, and then tried to find out, if these people were also perverts - and could be blackmailed?
In the article there is something about a submarine Epstein payd for. So maybe that's how he groomed him?
I'd like to know, if there are people, who have been invited to that island, without being pedophiles - or even without even knowing what was going on behind doors on this island?
What do you think?
Think I also read, that Trump had been there at least once.
Epstein had an altar on the island. It's not just pedophilia you have to worry that happened there. Rituals happen to include kids that aren't raped. Just killed (massive sarcasm alert).
Yes, I do not doubt that these things happened there.
The Question is just, if everyone, who had been invited to that island, also took part in these things - or just knew about them.
I think it's like the testimony of Paul Bonacci and Alisha Owen: Some just went to a party, some were there for the "After Party". The difference is always that "ye shall know them by their fruits": Did Trump go? Yep. Has there been any circumstantial evidence of him benefiting from it or doing something there? Not really.
On the other hand, did Stephen Hawking, Chris Tucker, Kevin Spacey, Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton go? Yep. Is there any circumstantial evidence of them benefiting from it or doing something there? Hell yeah: Leaked nasty photos (Spacey and the nude butt picture comes to mind), miraculous health improvements (probably due to babies blood transfusions), unrealistic wealth gains (think Clinton Foundation), unrealistic success growth (think Chris Tucker. He's not THAT talented). Yes all this is circumstantial, but all circumstantial claims should be investigated instead of just ignored. We've had enough of that for the last few DECADES.
I think these people were listed in some old pizzagate threads about Epstein's Island. At least those who were in the flight logs that were scrutinized during his trial.
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lopus ago
Just a thought: We know, that many celebrities have been there. And Hawking was mingling with celebrities - and he was himself some kind of a "popstar".
Do I think he was a pedo? well, we know, everything is possible. But I also admit, it would surprise me.
The question is now, if really everyone who had been at Orgy-Island also was a pedo or pervert and took part in the sordid shenanigans - or if you also could spend a holiday there just enjoying sun and sea?
Maybe Epstein invited celebs to spend a holiday on his island, and then tried to find out, if these people were also perverts - and could be blackmailed?
In the article there is something about a submarine Epstein payd for. So maybe that's how he groomed him?
I'd like to know, if there are people, who have been invited to that island, without being pedophiles - or even without even knowing what was going on behind doors on this island?
What do you think?
Think I also read, that Trump had been there at least once.
pizza-party-pooper-2 ago
Epstein had an altar on the island. It's not just pedophilia you have to worry that happened there. Rituals happen to include kids that aren't raped. Just killed (massive sarcasm alert).
lopus ago
Yes, I do not doubt that these things happened there. The Question is just, if everyone, who had been invited to that island, also took part in these things - or just knew about them.
pizza-party-pooper-2 ago
I think it's like the testimony of Paul Bonacci and Alisha Owen: Some just went to a party, some were there for the "After Party". The difference is always that "ye shall know them by their fruits": Did Trump go? Yep. Has there been any circumstantial evidence of him benefiting from it or doing something there? Not really.
On the other hand, did Stephen Hawking, Chris Tucker, Kevin Spacey, Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton go? Yep. Is there any circumstantial evidence of them benefiting from it or doing something there? Hell yeah: Leaked nasty photos (Spacey and the nude butt picture comes to mind), miraculous health improvements (probably due to babies blood transfusions), unrealistic wealth gains (think Clinton Foundation), unrealistic success growth (think Chris Tucker. He's not THAT talented). Yes all this is circumstantial, but all circumstantial claims should be investigated instead of just ignored. We've had enough of that for the last few DECADES.
think- ago
I would give anyone who went there only once the benefit of the doubt, although I'm pretty sure everybody knew what Epstein did on this island.
But people like Bill Clinton who went there 26 times didn't go there only for a holiday with consenting, adult prostitutes.
lopus ago
of course, Clinton is out of discussion here. At least 26 trips to Lolita Island... and we know his "appetite"... cough ...
But I think we should try to get lists of the people, who ever took a trip on the Lolita express or went there by boat...
Who went there and how often? And are these people also already suspicious for being pedos - or definitely not?
think- ago
I think these people were listed in some old pizzagate threads about Epstein's Island. At least those who were in the flight logs that were scrutinized during his trial.
MolochHunter ago
a lot of the names on those logs are rather undecipherable, though