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bluefascist ago

I don't think it's a slap in our faces.

It's a drink to toast the arrest of pedophiles with.

until that faggot john podesta explains what a pizza related map on a handkerchief is I think we can safely assume they are all fucking kids.

bluefascist ago

ok. then how about the dominoes on pasta or cheese?

I bet you've got some other great products that explain it all.

Are_we_sure ago

It means playing dominoes on a belly full of cheese vs a belly full of pasta.

They are talking about Christmas gifts. Podesta used to give out home made pasta and then switched to cheeses.

It's straightforward.

Have you seen the video of John Podesta cooking pasta with walnut sauce yet?

bluefascist ago

the pizza map thing actually seemed like it could be explained.

you sounds like a crazy person with this explanation.

how about the kids being entertainment in the hot tub. that was really fucking creepy.

or the $65000 worth of 'hotdogs' that obama ordered.

I'm sure you found the 'ultragourment' brand to explain that one too.

Are_we_sure ago

you sounds like a crazy person with this explanation.

Do you understand how deeply you have swallowed the hook for you to say that.

how about the kids being entertainment in the hot tub. that was really fucking creepy.

No. It wasn't. It's 100% confirmation bias based on a premade conclusion. And there's not hot tub at all in that email. There's a pool. Ever been to a backyard party where adults and kids swam in a pool together, haven't you?

or the $65000 worth of 'hotdogs' that obama ordered.

This is a fake story. It's another thing pizzagate community got wrong. This refers to Pizzagate 2009!

Anyone remember pizzagate 2009!

Pizzagate 2009

The origin of the myth

So this story begins with Obama saying his favorite pizza was not a Chicago Deep Dish Pizza, but from a place in St. Louis and had the chef makes pizzas in White House

http://www.nbcchicago.com/the-scene/food-drink/Obama-Cracks-Says-St-Louis-Pizza-Is-Best-Ever.html http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-04-10/news/0904090794_1_deep-dish-pizza-uno-chicago-grill-white-house http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0409/pizza_diplomacy_518fba10-cb5d-4350-bb6f-7a339ab585e6.html

Manufacturing a scandal

Now this just ruffled the feathers of some folks in Chicago, but was not a full-fledged manufactured scandal yet. That took right wing bloggers. They started this idea that Obama set a plane to have the chef flown into DC http://web.archive.org/web/20090414041936/http://minx.cc:80/?post=285771

This then became that the taxpayers were paying for Obama's Pizza Plane! Conservative Forums and twitter got all worked about it

https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/13226-obamas-pizza-party-at-taxpayers-tab/

@kellywcobb So...I wonder much did Obama's pizza delivery cost us. http://tinyurl EDIT .com/c4sr3f #transparency #tcot 1:21 PM - 11 Apr 2009

@TinaTerrell63 Obama flies in a pizza chef from Chicago! Tax payer expense I'm sure! 9:10 PM - 12 Apr 2009

@ImADirtyBubble Obama wanted pizza & flew out a pizza chef 2 the white house! Damn what else r we gona pay 4! 10:12 AM - 17 Apr 2009

The truth is the taxpayers didn't pay a cent. The pizza chef had other business in DC and he flew commercial with his dough and his sauce.

The stratford guy

So this idea that that Obama had spent a bunch of taxpayer money flying in pizza was in the rightwing ecosystem and this is where the Stratfor guy picked up. Because this guy's emails were stolen and given to Wikileaks, the pizzagate crowd assumed

A. He was an insider with knowledge of the Obama White House

B. He liked Obama.

Both of these assumptions were wrong.

Actually he was a right-wing guy who hated Obama. And this is evident by his other emails

He's a fan of NewsMax and his nickname for Obama is Hobomo. https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/emailid/1542735

He's a Republican who was hoping for Obama to lose in 2012. https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/emailid/3533255

And he's a birther https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/emailid/374601

Did Barry Hussein provide proof that he is an American Citizen?

The $65,000 story is this guy repeating fake right-wing gossip.


What's the ultragourmet brand?

bluefascist ago

Do you understand how deeply you have swallowed the hook for you to say that.

uhh buddy, I've got news for you. The email about playing dominoes on pizza or pasta is shady as fuck. Everyone who reads it and isn't being paid to cover for these evil fucks knows that (I hope for your sake it's more than $15/hour, because that would be a disasterously small sum to sell your integrity for). No one thinks that email is innocent, not even you. As to whether that is code for kids or drugs, or both, we will probably never know, but it certainly isn't about dominoes or pizza/pasta.

You should feel bad for literally selling out your personal integrity over that one.

The $65,000 story is this guy repeating fake right-wing gossip.

It's directly from wikileaks. It's funny how wikileaks was fine when the leaks were about GWB, but now that it's about hillary/obama, it's all 'muh russia', which if there was even a shred of evidence for, Trump would already have been impeached.

Also, hillary and podesta never denied the authenticity of the leaked emails, and more than once backed up their authenticity when baited.

Dare me to get you primetime footage of hillary doing so during the election, because it happened more than once.

Are_we_sure ago

uhh buddy, I've got news for you. The email about playing dominoes on pizza or pasta is shady as fuck.

Yeah, that's how confirmation bias works. It affects us all and feels really real. But it's not. It's one of the glitches of our brains when we believe the stories we telling ourselves.

No one thinks that email is innocent, not even you.

Put that email in front any none PIZZAGATE PRIMED person, just ask them to read it without any explaination. and they will say so what? It's simply not shady. Because for confirmation bias to kick in you have to already decided to give the folks in the emails zero benefit of the doubt and have probably started to demonize them and start looking to justify it.

The idea that every phrase in conversation between two folks with shared experiences we aren't part should make sense to outside observers is ludicrous to begin with.

As to whether that is code for kids or drugs, or both,

This is how conspiracists think. Mutually exclusive theories can be accepted as long as individually they support the original bias.

Why is no worked up the email from the previous year about Christmas gifts. No one ever mentions it.

It's directly from wikileaks.

Are you fucking shitting me? That's your answer? So fucking what? What is the document itself? Before it got to Wikileaks are you even aware of what you are reading. It's a fucking dude gossiping on his office email. A dude in Texas who has no inside information on the Obama White House whatsoever. A dude who reads Newsmax.

Also, hillary and podesta never denied the authenticity of the leaked emails, and more than once backed up their authenticity when baited.

Jesus, do you think Hillary's emails were leaked because you read them on Wikileaks? Oh boy.

So let's grant your point, Hillary and Podesta never denied the authenticity of the emails. So what? Have I? Do you think my argument rests on that?