Do not allow yourself to get sucked into the "partisan rigt" leaning the social engneers want to paint us as. You need to firmly stand your ground as non-partisan, to remain credible with the masees. (pizzagate)

submitted ago by djklbd

Do you recall that they referred to us as an "Alt right conspiracy" back in 2016?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfXWXNItF_Y

That was a "clever" way of merging us with the right side of the paradigm.

We need to maintain our non-partisan appeal. If the media tries to group us in with the pro Trumpets, you reject it, because you know they are only pushing it to link our cause with some half-ass representation of conservatism, to pit us against the left.

Divide and conquer s their MO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDb5g1injI8

Anderson "Vanderbilt" Cooper offers his take on conspiracy theorists, linking them to the alt-right.

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ASolo ago

I was going to try and interject last night but what I would have wrote would have turned into a novel. How can anyone cover over 100 years of conspiracy and have it make any sense to those that haven't been in it for a very long time and can understand how each side has fed and played off off each other from their inception. The different forms of "Democrat' and 'Republican' that look nothing like what they were in the early years of this country, so much known and distorted history versus true history, and so many versions and interpretational distortions within one individual that a cohesive explanation would only just begin to cover it all, an impossible task trying to explain it to someone simply just trying to research Pizzagate. A pandora's box noone really truly understands fully.

The confusion and chaos reign for a reason, the programming is strong precisely so people do not see it coming. Period.

ESOTERICshade ago

They have a whole internet to play political cheerleader in. I don't know why they can't do it there instead of alienating us to half the voting American public who will call us "right wing conspiracy tards" if we mix politics into this sub. Horrible marketing vision to say the least.

AdmirableNelson ago

Stop pretending "politics" is magically segregated from the rest of reality. If Trump is going after pedos, will the elites go after him? Of course they will... If Trump is going after pedos, and elites are therefore going after him, are you "playing politics" by defending Trump, or are you fighting pedos? It depends on whether or not you ACTUALLY care about stopping pedos, or if you want to derail stopping of pedos with absolute vague and worthless cant about politics-- wouldn't you agree?

For the sake of argument, explain to me how to separate your "partisan politics" from the overall mission of fighting a massively elite power structure, when all power runs through the political process-- it seems to me this highlights the absolute deceptiveness of this particular propaganda angle, but please, be my guest... Imagine, for the sake of argument, that a president is going after pedos, and elites are going after him...Now what exactly, out of your response, is "politics", and what is fighting pedophilia? How do you make that distinction?

ASolo ago

AdmirableNelson, that was nothing but a lot of hot air.

AdmirableNelson ago

I bet it is. I bet you can't make an argument, because there isn't one for you to make, because your position is so very weak here. But feel free to prove me wrong. Using sound and valid reasoning, rather than such an utterly feeble tactic as this post.

ASolo ago

fuck off whoever you are

ESOTERICshade ago

If Trump is going after pedos, will the elites go after him? Of course they will

I will wake you up when Trump announces that there is a pedo ring in our government, but until then, you can go back to sleep.

For the sake of argument, explain to me how to separate your "partisan politics" from the overall mission of fighting a massively elite power structure, when all power runs through the political process

When we address the audience with a speech about children being tortured and raped, we don't hand out Q biscuits and free Trumpy Bears. Because if we do that half of our audience will throw the Trumpy Bears and Q biscuits at us and leave in disgust. They will then go tell people that pizzagate is a far right conspiracy and they will actively work against us. Mkay?

AdmirableNelson ago

I will wake you up when Trump announces that there is a pedo ring in our government, but until then, you can go back to sleep.

What kind of childish nonsense is this, in lieu of discussion? If you can't admit that a president that calls out HRC for Haiti MIGHT be going after pedos-- if you can't even allow that thought into discussion... then what is your agenda? You can't post like this and still pretend you're being objective here. If Trump were going after high level pedos, would there be shills trying to stop him? Yes or no? This is a crucial question. It must be addressed if we're being serious in any way.

When we address the audience with a speech about children being tortured and raped, we don't hand out Q biscuits and free Trumpy Bears. Because if we do that half of our audience will throw the Trumpy Bears and Q biscuits at us and leave in disgust. They will then go tell people that pizzagate is a far right conspiracy and they will actively work against us. Mkay?

What on earth is this nonsense? Speak English, make actual arguments. You are very badly discrediting yourself by engaging this level of mindless rhetoric.

ESOTERICshade ago

If you can't admit that a president that calls out HRC for Haiti MIGHT be going after pedos-- if you can't even allow that thought into discussion... then what is your agenda?

Newbie I have been doing this for over 20 years and I have seen you sleep walk through this forum many times. We are dealing with a 6000 year old Babylonian child sacrifice cult that runs the entire world. A couple of snide remarks from Trump to Hillary about Haiti accomplished all of fuck all didn't it?

There are a lot of people who would believe in pizzagate, and help spread the word, but will refuse to help because they don't like Trump, Republicans, politics, etc....My message is common sense. If you give a lecture to a room full of people about child abuse the worst thing to do is spend half of their time blasting them with politics.

The listeners didn't come to your lecture to hear about politics. They came to learn about child abuse. duhhhh Half the people in this country don't like Trump and most of those people also hate child abuse and would help if people like you would leave your political soap box at home.